The Guardian: The question that flummoxed the great orator

Stan Shannon

I'm stone cold sober, and my belief is that what we had was better than any alternative presented since. Collectivism doesn't work. Libertarianism doesn't work. Conservativsm, when both fiscal and social are combined, works. Its just that simple, the American model, as designed and implemented. I, for one, will set and wait until everyone else figures that out.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

Look at the damned thing.

Wow! They not only faked the kiss, they faked the moment before it[^], too! :omg:

Stan Shannon wrote:

I don't believe that is true.

I know you don't, Stan. When you get into this state, you'll deny that the sun shines or water is wet.

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Stan Shannon · modified on Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:57 PM

I suppose I could be wrong about the guys age. I thought I had read somewhere that he was elderly. However, this[^] is the only non-fake image of Bush kissing any Saudi.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

I'm stone cold sober

You have said that before, but I have seen this descent into truculence and dogmatism on your part - usually on the weekend, always at night - to wonder if I shouldn't take that with a grain of salt. If you aren't drinking, you are giving a marvelous imitation of someone who is. Good night.

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Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

However, this[^] is the only non-fake image of Bush kissing any Saudi.

So you figure that both of the photos - obviously of the same sequence of events are both faked? Have you given up on the Easter Bunny, at least?

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Ilion

Stan Shannon wrote:

... I have no desire to re-integrate into it as an equal. To do so is the grossest imaginable insult to the people who built the US. Obama and his minions can kiss my butt.

Would that require bowing? :laugh: