Is this Obama's Hostage Crisis?

Rob Graham

Oakman wrote:

The one attempt that was made was called off by Carter before it had a chance to fail.

As I recall it was called off after it had come apart when the Choppers he sent got totally messed up by the sand at the rendezvous point, with one chopper crashing and burning. Hopefully the rumors of Obama contacting Carter for advice, if true, just mean Obama is running the plans past Carter and canceling any Carter thinks might work. The USS Boxer has 1800 Marines and a Seal team aboard. Surely they can drum up something, if only Obama will show some balls. Maybe he should let the Missus handle this one...

Stan Shannon

Yet this is the very diplomacy the left has been screaming for over the last 8 years. This is dialog, debate, a free exchange of ideas. It is with recalcitrant terrorist or course, or pirate, but what the hell? They like this shit and Obama is more than happy to give it to them. Its the change they wanted - all the way back to Carter diplomatically, and Roosevelt economically. In other words, no change at all. Just more of the same tired leftist bullshit.

Oakman wrote:

an indecisive leader (right now the press is wondering if he's made up his mind about where he'll go to church today) unable to confront a direct challenge to the country he is supposed to lead.

That should come as no surprise considering that the man has never actually led anything beyond a turd to the toilet. He has absolutely zero training, experience or aptitude for anything resembling actual leadership

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Stan Shannon

Don't forget about the pizza.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

kmg365

Heard yesterday; (some station) Day n (forgot #), America held hostage... (some other station) Obama's dog to arrive Tuesday, first family excited at new member of family...

Oakman

Rob Graham wrote:

As I recall it was called off after it had come apart when the Choppers he sent got totally messed up by the sand at the rendezvous point, with one chopper crashing and burning.

The rest of the team wanted to try, even one helicopter down. It was Carter's fear of looking bad that forced them to abandon their mission.

Rob Graham wrote:

Hopefully the rumors of Obama contacting Carter for advice, if true, just mean Obama is running the plans past Carter and canceling any Carter thinks might work.

From your mouth to God's ear. Carter is the perfect example of why worrying about being liked can never outweigh being respected.

Rob Graham wrote:

The USS Boxer has 1800 Marines and a Seal team aboard. Surely they can drum up something, if only Obama will show some balls.

He's probably trying to figure out who to apologise to. It's a shame. It would seem that all that is needed is for a careful explanation to the four pirates that the only thing keeping the Seals from cutting their throats and pissing into their tonsils is the life of Richards.

Rob Graham wrote:

Maybe he should let the Missus handle this one...

Too bad the hostage isn't from a minority.

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Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

He has absolutely zero training, experience or aptitude for anything resembling actual leadership

What I don't understand is where is General Jones in all of this? He should be the point man, if I have any understanding of how the White House is supposed to run.

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Rob Graham

By the way, have you noticed that none of the news outlets mention that the Boxer has 1800 Marines aboard? All they talk about is the helicopters and the medical facility...

kmg365

I think the French are taking man pills, please pass some our way. click[^]

Oakman

Rob Graham wrote:

By the way, have you noticed that none of the news outlets mention that the Boxer has 1800 Marines aboard?

They will come in handy if we have to pay a visit to Somalia. But that will happen, me thinks, only if the Seals aren't given their head while the seacoast is still far enough away that we don't have to contemplate invasion. Sure hope Obama comes home from the Easter Parade real soon and checks in at the office, even though it's a holiday.

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Oakman

kmg365 wrote:

think the French are taking man pills, please pass some our way

Don't rub it in. X|

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Rob Graham

Fox is reporting that Capt. Phillips has been rescued, 3 Pirates dead, 1 Captured.

Stan Shannon

Oakman wrote:

What I don't understand is where is General Jones in all of this? He should be the point man, if I have any understanding of how the White House is supposed to run.

I figure Obama has sought advice from Johnny Depp on dealing with pirates and has the General muzzled in the basement somewhere.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Mike Gaskey

The current news is that the captain jumped over board again creating an opening for US forces.

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Gary Kirkham

I think the US got exactly what they wanted in Obama, Lord help us. Whatever Bush's fault were, the inability to make a decision (right or wrong) wasn't one of them. I guess I will wait and see what Obama does...he hasn't impressed me thus far.

Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

Rob Graham

The forces had to be close at hand and have permission to go. Carter had forces close, and chickened out (for 3 f'n years).

Lost User

That is great news. Well done the guys who planned & executed this, and got Capt. Phillips out alive.

Bob Emmett

Oakman

Mike Gaskey wrote:

The current news is that the captain jumped over board again creating an opening for US forces.

No questioning the size of Richard Phillips'. And three cheers for everyone in the chain of command who told the Navy not to let another opportunity go by. If that includes Obama - and my guess is that it does - then good on him! Carter continues to stand alone, for which I am grateful.

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Oakman

Gary Kirkham wrote:

he hasn't impressed me thus far.

As Rob says, credit where credit is due. By the way: if you'll let this old reprobate say it to you: Happy Easter!

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Mike Gaskey

I did give proper credit, the captain has balls. Obama has a dog named Bo.

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

I figure Obama has sought advice from Johnny Depp on dealing with pirates

ROFL

Stan Shannon wrote:

General muzzled in the basement somewhere.

Maybe not. Semper Fi!

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