Accountability
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This is not what you are expecting. :) When I was in Seoul this past week an engineer with our client had me over to his home for dinner. During the conversation it came up that he was interested in building his own business and naturally I tried to answer all of his questions about my experience. At some point I mentioned that, in my opinion, to really get things accomplished he must hold himself accountable for getting things done. He was honest and said that he might have a hard time doing so and asked how I did it. To be honest I was nonplussed. I couldn't come up with anything except "well, you have" or something lame like that. My answer has been bothering me since that conversation. I've been trying to answer his question better without using a cliche. So, how about you guys and gals? Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
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This is not what you are expecting. :) When I was in Seoul this past week an engineer with our client had me over to his home for dinner. During the conversation it came up that he was interested in building his own business and naturally I tried to answer all of his questions about my experience. At some point I mentioned that, in my opinion, to really get things accomplished he must hold himself accountable for getting things done. He was honest and said that he might have a hard time doing so and asked how I did it. To be honest I was nonplussed. I couldn't come up with anything except "well, you have" or something lame like that. My answer has been bothering me since that conversation. I've been trying to answer his question better without using a cliche. So, how about you guys and gals? Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
Chris Austin wrote:
Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
yes, "it is never someone else's fault". pretty simple.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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This is not what you are expecting. :) When I was in Seoul this past week an engineer with our client had me over to his home for dinner. During the conversation it came up that he was interested in building his own business and naturally I tried to answer all of his questions about my experience. At some point I mentioned that, in my opinion, to really get things accomplished he must hold himself accountable for getting things done. He was honest and said that he might have a hard time doing so and asked how I did it. To be honest I was nonplussed. I couldn't come up with anything except "well, you have" or something lame like that. My answer has been bothering me since that conversation. I've been trying to answer his question better without using a cliche. So, how about you guys and gals? Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
Chris Austin wrote:
? Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
I'm not sure this is a skill. Or if it is one, it's one we learn as children. IMHO, people who succeed as self-employed have great faith in themselves as problem solvers and know/believe that if they work long enough and hard enough, they will accomplish the tasks they've set themselves. They don't always make great employees, especially if they find themselves in the hire of folks who don't recognize and encourage them to set their own goals and allow them to achieve them. Rough rule of thumb: if someone believes that the boss being out sick for a day is permission for lots of coffee breaks and chit-chat, they should never go to work for themselves.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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This is not what you are expecting. :) When I was in Seoul this past week an engineer with our client had me over to his home for dinner. During the conversation it came up that he was interested in building his own business and naturally I tried to answer all of his questions about my experience. At some point I mentioned that, in my opinion, to really get things accomplished he must hold himself accountable for getting things done. He was honest and said that he might have a hard time doing so and asked how I did it. To be honest I was nonplussed. I couldn't come up with anything except "well, you have" or something lame like that. My answer has been bothering me since that conversation. I've been trying to answer his question better without using a cliche. So, how about you guys and gals? Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
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Chris Austin wrote:
Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
yes, "it is never someone else's fault". pretty simple.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
yes, "it is never someone else's fault". pretty simple.
I agree. Maybe we didn't quite 'get' each other. That or he was just admitting that he is lazy beyond merely working smarter.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
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Chris Austin wrote:
? Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
I'm not sure this is a skill. Or if it is one, it's one we learn as children. IMHO, people who succeed as self-employed have great faith in themselves as problem solvers and know/believe that if they work long enough and hard enough, they will accomplish the tasks they've set themselves. They don't always make great employees, especially if they find themselves in the hire of folks who don't recognize and encourage them to set their own goals and allow them to achieve them. Rough rule of thumb: if someone believes that the boss being out sick for a day is permission for lots of coffee breaks and chit-chat, they should never go to work for themselves.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
They don't always make great employees, especially if they find themselves in the hire of folks who don't recognize and encourage them to set their own goals and allow them to achieve them.
:laugh: I was an employee who did what was necessary most of the time. But, on the two occasions that I had a boss that cut us loose, I felt second to no one.
Oakman wrote:
I'm not sure this is a skill. Or if it is one, it's one we learn as children.
I agree. I was just taken aback at his honesty and his question. Not to mention, I was frustrated at my poor explanation of my approach. When I next speak with him, if he is still interested in hitching his wagon to himself I'll try a more drastic explanation... i.e. if you don't do what needs to be done, you will starve.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
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in reality , like Oak said, it's about how you were raised... A good job is a good job, no one needs to tell you, you know {edit}crap I agreed with someone{/edit}
fred_ wrote:
A good job is a good job, no one needs to tell you, you know
Right on.
fred_ wrote:
{edit}crap I agreed with someone{/edit}
We neeed to rename this forum to the Care Bear Center[^] center.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
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This is not what you are expecting. :) When I was in Seoul this past week an engineer with our client had me over to his home for dinner. During the conversation it came up that he was interested in building his own business and naturally I tried to answer all of his questions about my experience. At some point I mentioned that, in my opinion, to really get things accomplished he must hold himself accountable for getting things done. He was honest and said that he might have a hard time doing so and asked how I did it. To be honest I was nonplussed. I couldn't come up with anything except "well, you have" or something lame like that. My answer has been bothering me since that conversation. I've been trying to answer his question better without using a cliche. So, how about you guys and gals? Any explanations or insights into personal accountability that I can share with this guy?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
