I guess the outlaw programmer was right

Oakman

Before I click, what do you think?

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kmg365

I remember, was it "Simons the Outlaw Programmer" said that Texas is the only state that can "legally" secede from the union when this topic was last discussed in the Soapbox. What I think is we may have a new GOP candidate for president in 2012 named Perry.

Chris Austin

kmg365 wrote:

What I think is we may have a new GOP candidate for president in 2012 named Perry.

Now that is scary. I don't know many conservatives that really care for him. He gets elected because he is simply not a democrat. He has raised business taxes and has been caught lying many times on emanate domain issues and property tax issues. The worst is....he is an aggie; only trust them when it comes to growing fruits and veggies.

Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

kmg365

Chris Austin wrote:

He gets elected because he is simply not a democrat. He has raised business taxes and has been caught lying many times on emanate domain issues

good to know

Chris Austin wrote:

The worst is....he is an aggie

totaly unacceptable!

Oakman

Chris Austin wrote:

He has raised business taxes and has been caught lying many times on emanate domain issues and property tax issues.

Sounds like a typical politician. Apparently he also forgot that when Texas exercised its legal right to secede, Lincoln said, "Not so fast," and when it was forcibly reinstated in the Union, there was no provision made for it changing its mind again. Texas has a better chance of becoming part of Aztlan (map[^]) than it does of becoming independent again, I am afraid.

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Chris Austin

Oakman wrote:

Apparently he also forgot that when Texas exercised its legal right to secede, Lincoln said, "Not so fast," and when it was forcibly reinstated in the Union, there was no provision made for it changing its mind again.

Yeah, I didn't comment on this since it stills seems hard to explain to people that the results of the civil war fundamentally changed the nature of our republic, at least in practice.

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Stan Shannon

Chris Austin wrote:

Yeah, I didn't comment on this since it stills seems hard to explain to people that the results of the civil war fundamentally changed the nature of our republic, at least in practice.

That is what most people don't understand about the Civil War. The reason they were shooting at each other was over the issue of seccession, not slavery. But the issue was settled militarily not constitutionally. However, I still think it would be better to try to get the blue states to secceed from us rather than vice versa. simply by the rest of us being a bunch of recalcitrant assholes electing the most right wing christian fundamentalists we can find. For my part, they can go. Don't let the door hit yer ass on the way out.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Chris Austin

Stan Shannon wrote:

But the issue was settled militarily not constitutionally. However, I still think it would be better to try to get the blue states to secceed from us rather than vice versa. simply by the rest of us being a bunch of recalcitrant assholes electing the most right wing christian fundamentalists we can find. For my part, they can go. Don't let the door hit yer ass on the way out.

Yeah Stan, that's great for everybody how's it worked out so far?

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Oakman

Chris Austin wrote:

Yeah Stan, that's great for everybody how's it worked out so far?

I think it's working fine for Stan - he doesn't get out much. ;) When he starts talking about "the rest of us," I say, "Mr. Shannon - look behind you. No one is following." ;)

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Ilion

kmg365 wrote:

I remember, was it "Simons the Outlaw Programmer" said that Texas is the only state that can "legally" secede from the union

I recall that, and in that he's wrong. *ALL* US States have the legal and moral right to secede from the Union. Whether it's practical ... or wise ... at any particular time is a different matter.

Ilion

Oakman wrote:

Before I click, what do you think?

You're such a sad thing ...

Oakman

Ilíon wrote:

You're such a sad thing ...

Have you found a job yet, or are you still sucking on Uncle Sugar's tit?

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Ilion

Oakman wrote:

Have you found a job yet, or are you still sucking on Uncle Sugar's tit?

I haven't even started looking for a job. Nor have I sucked at Uncle Sugar's tit (or Uncle Ted's[^], either). Don't you think it amusing that you *assume* everyone else simply must be such a sad character as you are?

Chris Austin

Oakman wrote:

still sucking on Uncle Sugar's tit?

I am sitting here with Glory Road on my desk. I just sold it on craig's list and am due to meet the guy at 6:00.

Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

Stan Shannon

Chris Austin wrote:

Yeah Stan, that's great for everybody how's it worked out so far?

So far so good. I figure at least some degree of back lash over the next couple of election cycles ought to get new england and the west coast talking about secceeding from us.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Oakman

Ilíon wrote:

Don't you think it amusing

I find you amusing. Especially when you start lashing out. I suppose I shouldn't but I enjoy seeing you flail about trying to build up your self-esteem. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Oakman

Started drinking early today, eh?

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Oakman

Chris Austin wrote:

I am sitting here with Glory Road on my desk. I just sold it on craig's list and am due to meet the guy at 6:00.

One of my all time favorites. Dum vivimus vivamus!

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Chris Austin

I don't think so. I think the whole country is circling the drain and it doesn't matter which political party you worship. If we can't get back to common sense we are going to end up as one big banana republic or a bunch of little ones.

Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

Ilion

Oakman wrote:

I find you amusing. Especially when you start lashing out. I suppose I shouldn't but I enjoy seeing you flail about trying to build up your self-esteem. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I have self-respect. "Self-esteem" is for pathetiques, such as you.