You would think more than ever with this virus they would close the border

[Lost User]

Presumably you are referring to the current Swine Flu outbreak affecting Mexico and USA? If so, it has got the WHO in Geneva all hot and bothered [^], looks like they will declare the outbreak “a public health event of international concern". What with an international financial crisis and now a potential international public health crisis, makes you wonder what's next.

[kmg365]

WHO is concerned and attempting to formulate a plan. CDC says "nothing we can do". When did the "we can do" agency, the agency that "saved ET" is powerless. DHS, can't protect the border. What a bunch of sad-sacks-of-sh**. I am looking for a responsible country to say "we've closed are borders" to the US and Mexico.

[kmg365]

I wander if she is even an American :confused:

[kmg365]

I don't know how separation of church and state, humanism and such have anything to do with protecting the border against disease ridden illegal aliens?

[Lost User]

Borders to Asian countries, and other countries, were not closed during the many bird flu incidents this last few years. Borders are not water-tight, they leak, as is shown by illegal immigration from Mexico to USA. Consequently, this virus will also travel with the leak.

[Stan Shannon]

kmg365 wrote:

I don't know how separation of church and state, humanism and such have anything to do with protecting the border against disease ridden illegal aliens?

Because the only possible reason we would not immediately shut down the border with a neighboring country in the early stages of a possible pandemic without hesitation is because it would violate the tenants of humanism. It would be intolerant, prejudicial, bigoted. If we could shut the border down for that reason, we could shut it down for any other reason that might be to our own advantage and to their disadvantage. We should all share in the diseases equally because we are all the same. It is simple social justice.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Rob Graham]

kmg365 wrote:

DHS, can'tdoesnt want to protect the border.

FTFY.

[kmg365]

Got it, thanks.

[kmg365]

:)

[Lost User]

Gringo flu?[^] CDC officials described the virus as having a unique combination of gene segments not seen before in people or pigs. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.

Bob Emmett

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

Because the only possible reason we would not immediately shut down the border with a neighboring country in the early stages of a possible pandemic without hesitation is because it would violate the tenants of humanism.

Yeah, all that humanistic crap about the good Samaritan and "What ye do to the least of these, ye do unto me." Thank God, Christianity doesn't spew that kind of doggerel.

Stan Shannon wrote:

It would be intolerant, prejudicial, bigoted.

So you are saying these are the Christian virtues? "Blessed are the bigoted because God only loves white guys?"

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[Oakman]

kmg365 wrote:

DHS, can't protect the border.

We've got 50 kids in New York, back from a highschool trip to Mexico, down with the "flu-like symptoms." I wish to hell that we were patrolling the border with armed soldiers and doing everything in out power to arrest and punish people who come across our border illegally. They are turning some of our cities into hellholes and pigstyes. But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

[kmg365]

Oakman wrote:

But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.

I wonder if the Jews of ghettos of medieval Europe would agree.

[kmg365]

I wonder if this flu has anything to do with Mexico city water being turned off [^]for a period of time?

[Shog9 0]

kmg365 wrote:

I wonder if the Jews of ghettos of medieval Europe would agree.

You can ask them if you want, but i'm pretty sure I know what the response will be.

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[Oakman]

kmg365 wrote:

I wonder if the Jews of ghettos of medieval Europe would agree.

Since Typhus is spread by lice, what difference would it make? Or are you thinking of something else?

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

[Stan Shannon]

Oakman wrote:

Yeah, all that humanistic crap about the good Samaritan and "What ye do to the least of these, ye do unto me." Thank God, Christianity doesn't spew that kind of doggerel.

Humanism's simmilarity to other religions is proof of its true nature. If we are to invoke our christian traditions, that is an entirely different issue. but it is not Christian principles being promlgated by the state.

Oakman wrote:

So you are saying these are the Christian virtues? "Blessed are the bigoted because God only loves white guys?"

I never said that. But those are the primary moral tenants of humanism. Being bound to them by the state is no different than being bound to any other set of religions principles.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Stan Shannon]

Oakman wrote:

But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.

But, just as with enhanced interrogation, it is still a perfectly rational response to certain situations. It might at least slow it down enough to identify the source. There is absolutely no reason not to have it as an option aside from a mindless over-commitment to some inane moral agenda.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

Humanism's simmilarity to other religions is proof of its true nature.

So if Bush threw away twenty-bil on AIDS in Africa out of Christian charity, that's a good thing, but if we try to help the Mexicans because we are all humans that's a bad thing?

Stan Shannon wrote:

But those are the primary moral tenants of humanism. Being bound to them by the state is no different than being bound to any other set of religions principles.

I didn't notice you being bound - nor me, neither. Remember that no matter what, your mind is free. I know that sounds awfully Humanistic, but 'tis true. And, if there is a God who cares about what we do instead of how many times a day we pray and how much we pay our pastor, then He will notice that you did unto these, the least of His children, both in Africa and Mexico. If there isn't - tough noogies.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin