You would think more than ever with this virus they would close the border
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I never realized that Napolitano was a Mexican name. How silly of me to think it was Italian.
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Isn't it amazing how a moral imperative can blind a culture to every other possible contingency? There are those who warn us of the danger to our society of christian zealotry. But I don't care what anyone says, the new "you must be open, you must be tolerant, you must be inclusive, in all things in all ways" is indistinquisable from any moral mandate of any religion on this planet. Except that it has no limitations regarding separation of church and state that other religions are constrained by. Like it or not, humanism has become the religion of the state for any practical purpose.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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WHO is concerned and attempting to formulate a plan. CDC says "nothing we can do". When did the "we can do" agency, the agency that "saved ET" is powerless. DHS, can't protect the border. What a bunch of sad-sacks-of-sh**. I am looking for a responsible country to say "we've closed are borders" to the US and Mexico.
Borders to Asian countries, and other countries, were not closed during the many bird flu incidents this last few years. Borders are not water-tight, they leak, as is shown by illegal immigration from Mexico to USA. Consequently, this virus will also travel with the leak.
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I don't know how separation of church and state, humanism and such have anything to do with protecting the border against disease ridden illegal aliens?
kmg365 wrote:
I don't know how separation of church and state, humanism and such have anything to do with protecting the border against disease ridden illegal aliens?
Because the only possible reason we would not immediately shut down the border with a neighboring country in the early stages of a possible pandemic without hesitation is because it would violate the tenants of humanism. It would be intolerant, prejudicial, bigoted. If we could shut the border down for that reason, we could shut it down for any other reason that might be to our own advantage and to their disadvantage. We should all share in the diseases equally because we are all the same. It is simple social justice.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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WHO is concerned and attempting to formulate a plan. CDC says "nothing we can do". When did the "we can do" agency, the agency that "saved ET" is powerless. DHS, can't protect the border. What a bunch of sad-sacks-of-sh**. I am looking for a responsible country to say "we've closed are borders" to the US and Mexico.
kmg365 wrote:
DHS, can'tdoesnt want to protect the border.
FTFY.
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kmg365 wrote:
I don't know how separation of church and state, humanism and such have anything to do with protecting the border against disease ridden illegal aliens?
Because the only possible reason we would not immediately shut down the border with a neighboring country in the early stages of a possible pandemic without hesitation is because it would violate the tenants of humanism. It would be intolerant, prejudicial, bigoted. If we could shut the border down for that reason, we could shut it down for any other reason that might be to our own advantage and to their disadvantage. We should all share in the diseases equally because we are all the same. It is simple social justice.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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kmg365 wrote:
DHS, can'tdoesnt want to protect the border.
FTFY.
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Gringo flu?[^] CDC officials described the virus as having a unique combination of gene segments not seen before in people or pigs. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.
Bob Emmett
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kmg365 wrote:
I don't know how separation of church and state, humanism and such have anything to do with protecting the border against disease ridden illegal aliens?
Because the only possible reason we would not immediately shut down the border with a neighboring country in the early stages of a possible pandemic without hesitation is because it would violate the tenants of humanism. It would be intolerant, prejudicial, bigoted. If we could shut the border down for that reason, we could shut it down for any other reason that might be to our own advantage and to their disadvantage. We should all share in the diseases equally because we are all the same. It is simple social justice.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Because the only possible reason we would not immediately shut down the border with a neighboring country in the early stages of a possible pandemic without hesitation is because it would violate the tenants of humanism.
Yeah, all that humanistic crap about the good Samaritan and "What ye do to the least of these, ye do unto me." Thank God, Christianity doesn't spew that kind of doggerel.
Stan Shannon wrote:
It would be intolerant, prejudicial, bigoted.
So you are saying these are the Christian virtues? "Blessed are the bigoted because God only loves white guys?"
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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WHO is concerned and attempting to formulate a plan. CDC says "nothing we can do". When did the "we can do" agency, the agency that "saved ET" is powerless. DHS, can't protect the border. What a bunch of sad-sacks-of-sh**. I am looking for a responsible country to say "we've closed are borders" to the US and Mexico.
kmg365 wrote:
DHS, can't protect the border.
We've got 50 kids in New York, back from a highschool trip to Mexico, down with the "flu-like symptoms." I wish to hell that we were patrolling the border with armed soldiers and doing everything in out power to arrest and punish people who come across our border illegally. They are turning some of our cities into hellholes and pigstyes. But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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kmg365 wrote:
DHS, can't protect the border.
We've got 50 kids in New York, back from a highschool trip to Mexico, down with the "flu-like symptoms." I wish to hell that we were patrolling the border with armed soldiers and doing everything in out power to arrest and punish people who come across our border illegally. They are turning some of our cities into hellholes and pigstyes. But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Gringo flu?[^] CDC officials described the virus as having a unique combination of gene segments not seen before in people or pigs. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.
Bob Emmett
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Oakman wrote:
But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.
I wonder if the Jews of ghettos of medieval Europe would agree.
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Oakman wrote:
But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.
I wonder if the Jews of ghettos of medieval Europe would agree.
kmg365 wrote:
I wonder if the Jews of ghettos of medieval Europe would agree.
Since Typhus is spread by lice, what difference would it make? Or are you thinking of something else?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Because the only possible reason we would not immediately shut down the border with a neighboring country in the early stages of a possible pandemic without hesitation is because it would violate the tenants of humanism.
Yeah, all that humanistic crap about the good Samaritan and "What ye do to the least of these, ye do unto me." Thank God, Christianity doesn't spew that kind of doggerel.
Stan Shannon wrote:
It would be intolerant, prejudicial, bigoted.
So you are saying these are the Christian virtues? "Blessed are the bigoted because God only loves white guys?"
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Yeah, all that humanistic crap about the good Samaritan and "What ye do to the least of these, ye do unto me." Thank God, Christianity doesn't spew that kind of doggerel.
Humanism's simmilarity to other religions is proof of its true nature. If we are to invoke our christian traditions, that is an entirely different issue. but it is not Christian principles being promlgated by the state.
Oakman wrote:
So you are saying these are the Christian virtues? "Blessed are the bigoted because God only loves white guys?"
I never said that. But those are the primary moral tenants of humanism. Being bound to them by the state is no different than being bound to any other set of religions principles.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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kmg365 wrote:
DHS, can't protect the border.
We've got 50 kids in New York, back from a highschool trip to Mexico, down with the "flu-like symptoms." I wish to hell that we were patrolling the border with armed soldiers and doing everything in out power to arrest and punish people who come across our border illegally. They are turning some of our cities into hellholes and pigstyes. But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.
But, just as with enhanced interrogation, it is still a perfectly rational response to certain situations. It might at least slow it down enough to identify the source. There is absolutely no reason not to have it as an option aside from a mindless over-commitment to some inane moral agenda.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
Yeah, all that humanistic crap about the good Samaritan and "What ye do to the least of these, ye do unto me." Thank God, Christianity doesn't spew that kind of doggerel.
Humanism's simmilarity to other religions is proof of its true nature. If we are to invoke our christian traditions, that is an entirely different issue. but it is not Christian principles being promlgated by the state.
Oakman wrote:
So you are saying these are the Christian virtues? "Blessed are the bigoted because God only loves white guys?"
I never said that. But those are the primary moral tenants of humanism. Being bound to them by the state is no different than being bound to any other set of religions principles.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Humanism's simmilarity to other religions is proof of its true nature.
So if Bush threw away twenty-bil on AIDS in Africa out of Christian charity, that's a good thing, but if we try to help the Mexicans because we are all humans that's a bad thing?
Stan Shannon wrote:
But those are the primary moral tenants of humanism. Being bound to them by the state is no different than being bound to any other set of religions principles.
I didn't notice you being bound - nor me, neither. Remember that no matter what, your mind is free. I know that sounds awfully Humanistic, but 'tis true. And, if there is a God who cares about what we do instead of how many times a day we pray and how much we pay our pastor, then He will notice that you did unto these, the least of His children, both in Africa and Mexico. If there isn't - tough noogies.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Oakman wrote:
But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.
But, just as with enhanced interrogation, it is still a perfectly rational response to certain situations. It might at least slow it down enough to identify the source. There is absolutely no reason not to have it as an option aside from a mindless over-commitment to some inane moral agenda.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
But, just as with enhanced interrogation, it is still a perfectly rational response to certain situations. It might at least slow it down enough to identify the source. There is absolutely no reason not to have it as an option aside from a mindless over-commitment to some inane moral agenda.
If this becomes a pandemic, we will realise it because folks in Indianapolis, Charlotte, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, LA, San Francisco and Washington, DC will all start coming down with it because they visited Mexico, or they knew someone who visited Mexico, or they shared an elevator with someone who knew someone who visited Mexico. I am all in favor of closing the border, even now, but as far as the Flu goes, the horse has already left the barn, and is wearing the thief's brand.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Oakman wrote:
But never, ever, has a pandemic been prevented by "closing" a border. Today's technology makes it less likely.
But, just as with enhanced interrogation, it is still a perfectly rational response to certain situations. It might at least slow it down enough to identify the source. There is absolutely no reason not to have it as an option aside from a mindless over-commitment to some inane moral agenda.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Considering that there are reported incidents of this virus in South Western USA, closing the border would be akin to closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. The virus is already there. And apparently spreading http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682/[^]. Above you comment "mindless over-commitment to some inane moral agenda, moral imperative, christian zealotry, separation of church and state, humanism, and social justice", how by bringing them into the argument addresses this virus? I'm at a loss to understand you. :confused: But I can understand this quote "We don’t think we can contain the spread of this virus"