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    Stan Shannon
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    That they should be in charge of how you think...[^] ... because, well, they're just so smart and all. I'll be waiting for my instructions, or my little pill, or what ever the hell they come up with...

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      That they should be in charge of how you think...[^] ... because, well, they're just so smart and all. I'll be waiting for my instructions, or my little pill, or what ever the hell they come up with...

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      Oakman
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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      I'll be waiting for my instructions, or my little pill, or what ever the hell they come up with...

      Well, you have already established to a certainty that you think someone should be in charge of how people think, so, if it's not the smart guys, whgo do you think it should be? The Neanderthals? The state legislators of Ohio? But I repeat myself. . .

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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        Stan Shannon wrote:

        I'll be waiting for my instructions, or my little pill, or what ever the hell they come up with...

        Well, you have already established to a certainty that you think someone should be in charge of how people think, so, if it's not the smart guys, whgo do you think it should be? The Neanderthals? The state legislators of Ohio? But I repeat myself. . .

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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        Stan Shannon
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        Oakman wrote:

        Well, you have already established to a certainty that you think someone should be in charge of how people think, so, if it's not the smart guys, whgo do you think it should be?

        Someone does need to be in charge. Thats why we had a revolution - to take that power away from the center and distribute it to the people to work out among themselves. But, hey, if you want an enlightenment that simply tranfers social power from a religious priesthood to an academic one, who am I to complain? I'll be in my little gated community, or my closet, or wherever you libertarians allow me to go.

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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          Oakman wrote:

          Well, you have already established to a certainty that you think someone should be in charge of how people think, so, if it's not the smart guys, whgo do you think it should be?

          Someone does need to be in charge. Thats why we had a revolution - to take that power away from the center and distribute it to the people to work out among themselves. But, hey, if you want an enlightenment that simply tranfers social power from a religious priesthood to an academic one, who am I to complain? I'll be in my little gated community, or my closet, or wherever you libertarians allow me to go.

          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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          Oakman
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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          Someone does need to be in charge.

          Time to wake up; Time to go to work; time to eat; time to take a dump. . .what a wonderfully ordered life you dream of. No personal responsibility; no personal freedom - but of course you are free to do exactly what you are told, aren't you?

          Stan Shannon wrote:

          But, hey, if you want an enlightenment that simply tranfers social power from a religious priesthood to an academic one, who am I to complain?

          Not me, Stan, I just wanted to be sure that you were not giving up your dream of Shari'a Law. I shouldn't have worried.

          Stan Shannon wrote:

          I'll be in my little gated community, or my closet,

          Oh come on out of the closet, Stan.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            Someone does need to be in charge.

            Time to wake up; Time to go to work; time to eat; time to take a dump. . .what a wonderfully ordered life you dream of. No personal responsibility; no personal freedom - but of course you are free to do exactly what you are told, aren't you?

            Stan Shannon wrote:

            But, hey, if you want an enlightenment that simply tranfers social power from a religious priesthood to an academic one, who am I to complain?

            Not me, Stan, I just wanted to be sure that you were not giving up your dream of Shari'a Law. I shouldn't have worried.

            Stan Shannon wrote:

            I'll be in my little gated community, or my closet,

            Oh come on out of the closet, Stan.

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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            Stan Shannon
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            Oakman wrote:

            Time to wake up; Time to go to work; time to eat; time to take a dump. . .what a wonderfully ordered life you dream of. No personal responsibility; no personal freedom - but of course you are free to do exactly what you are told, aren't you?

            Civilization is defined by rules, Jon, get used to it. You're principles don't change that, they just make sure those rules are safely protected by right minded elitists.

            Oakman wrote:

            Not me, Stan, I just wanted to be sure that you were not giving up your dream of Shari'a Law. I shouldn't have worried.

            Yeah, its really amazing how we were finally liberated from Jefferson's Sharia law after 200 years by you libertarians.

            Oakman wrote:

            Oh come on out of the closet, Stan.

            I can't, I might run into Tim Craig getting a blow job on a street corner somewhere... I'm not sure I could survive such a fulfillment of enlightenment values. IOW, it might harm me.

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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              That they should be in charge of how you think...[^] ... because, well, they're just so smart and all. I'll be waiting for my instructions, or my little pill, or what ever the hell they come up with...

              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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              It already happened. They want your hearts and minds. They already have people convinced "stupid" people should be punished. Christian Grauss is the ultimate puppet. He soaks up that bloody drivel fed to him.

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                It already happened. They want your hearts and minds. They already have people convinced "stupid" people should be punished. Christian Grauss is the ultimate puppet. He soaks up that bloody drivel fed to him.

                ENDGAME[^]

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                Oakman
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                Intel 4004 wrote:

                They already have people convinced "stupid" people should be punished.

                Not all stupid people - just you.

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                  Intel 4004 wrote:

                  They already have people convinced "stupid" people should be punished.

                  Not all stupid people - just you.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                  Captain See Sharp
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                  I'll punish you by taking your money away from you too then. I hear the food stamps calling me. I could use about 80 Starbucks Double-Shots in the fridge. :-\

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                    Oakman wrote:

                    Time to wake up; Time to go to work; time to eat; time to take a dump. . .what a wonderfully ordered life you dream of. No personal responsibility; no personal freedom - but of course you are free to do exactly what you are told, aren't you?

                    Civilization is defined by rules, Jon, get used to it. You're principles don't change that, they just make sure those rules are safely protected by right minded elitists.

                    Oakman wrote:

                    Not me, Stan, I just wanted to be sure that you were not giving up your dream of Shari'a Law. I shouldn't have worried.

                    Yeah, its really amazing how we were finally liberated from Jefferson's Sharia law after 200 years by you libertarians.

                    Oakman wrote:

                    Oh come on out of the closet, Stan.

                    I can't, I might run into Tim Craig getting a blow job on a street corner somewhere... I'm not sure I could survive such a fulfillment of enlightenment values. IOW, it might harm me.

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Tim Craig
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                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    it might harm me.

                    I think the main harm you've had was when they dropped you on your head in the kitchen where your mother squeezed you out.

                    "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                      Oakman wrote:

                      Time to wake up; Time to go to work; time to eat; time to take a dump. . .what a wonderfully ordered life you dream of. No personal responsibility; no personal freedom - but of course you are free to do exactly what you are told, aren't you?

                      Civilization is defined by rules, Jon, get used to it. You're principles don't change that, they just make sure those rules are safely protected by right minded elitists.

                      Oakman wrote:

                      Not me, Stan, I just wanted to be sure that you were not giving up your dream of Shari'a Law. I shouldn't have worried.

                      Yeah, its really amazing how we were finally liberated from Jefferson's Sharia law after 200 years by you libertarians.

                      Oakman wrote:

                      Oh come on out of the closet, Stan.

                      I can't, I might run into Tim Craig getting a blow job on a street corner somewhere... I'm not sure I could survive such a fulfillment of enlightenment values. IOW, it might harm me.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      Oakman
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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      Civilization is defined by rules, Jon, get used to it

                      No argument. I think the rules should be: The government will enforce any contract entered into freely; The government shall not use force, or allow force to be used, against any person unless that person is using force, or the threat of it, to intimidate or cause bodily harm. Everything else isn't the government's business. All those laws you want to pass telling people what to think and how to pray and when to shit - just not needed.

                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      Yeah, its really amazing how we were finally liberated from Jefferson's Sharia law after 200 years by you libertarians

                      You are no more liberated than Adnan was, and for pretty much the same reasons.

                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      IOW, it might harm me

                      Just like those folks who told that guy he wasn't a white African American were harmed? I wonder when it was that people started thinking that the freedom not to be offended was in the Bill of Rights. :confused:

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                        I'll punish you by taking your money away from you too then. I hear the food stamps calling me. I could use about 80 Starbucks Double-Shots in the fridge. :-\

                        ENDGAME[^]

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                        Oakman
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                        Intel 4004 wrote:

                        I'll punish you by taking your money away from you too then

                        You already have. Along with that of a lot of other people who pay taxes, and take some responsibility for their lives.

                        Intel 4004 wrote:

                        I could use about 80 Starbucks Double-Shots in the fridge.

                        Starbucks makes such lousy coffee.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          Civilization is defined by rules, Jon, get used to it

                          No argument. I think the rules should be: The government will enforce any contract entered into freely; The government shall not use force, or allow force to be used, against any person unless that person is using force, or the threat of it, to intimidate or cause bodily harm. Everything else isn't the government's business. All those laws you want to pass telling people what to think and how to pray and when to shit - just not needed.

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          Yeah, its really amazing how we were finally liberated from Jefferson's Sharia law after 200 years by you libertarians

                          You are no more liberated than Adnan was, and for pretty much the same reasons.

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          IOW, it might harm me

                          Just like those folks who told that guy he wasn't a white African American were harmed? I wonder when it was that people started thinking that the freedom not to be offended was in the Bill of Rights. :confused:

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                          Stan Shannon
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                          Oakman wrote:

                          You are no more liberated than Adnan was, and for pretty much the same reasons.

                          There you go again, damning all of American history.

                          Oakman wrote:

                          Just like those folks who told that guy he wasn't a white African American were harmed? I wonder when it was that people started thinking that the freedom not to be offended was in the Bill of Rights.

                          I don't know, dude, you're the one who has proclaimed exclusive authority to define all that. Who the hell am I to resist?

                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                            It already happened. They want your hearts and minds. They already have people convinced "stupid" people should be punished. Christian Grauss is the ultimate puppet. He soaks up that bloody drivel fed to him.

                            ENDGAME[^]

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                            Says the guy with the ENDGAME link in his sig. :laugh:

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              it might harm me.

                              I think the main harm you've had was when they dropped you on your head in the kitchen where your mother squeezed you out.

                              "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                              Stan Shannon
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                              yeah, Tim, yer just a walking, talking testimony to why the enlightenment was such a momentous epoch in human social progress. :rolleyes:

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                You are no more liberated than Adnan was, and for pretty much the same reasons.

                                There you go again, damning all of American history.

                                Oakman wrote:

                                Just like those folks who told that guy he wasn't a white African American were harmed? I wonder when it was that people started thinking that the freedom not to be offended was in the Bill of Rights.

                                I don't know, dude, you're the one who has proclaimed exclusive authority to define all that. Who the hell am I to resist?

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                There you go again, damning all of American history

                                Don't try to blame America for your neuroses, Stan. Blame your mommy and daddy if you must, but leave Lady Liberty out of it. And at least consider not telling us every time your feelings are hurt by being reminded that there is homosexuality in the universe.

                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                I don't know, dude, you're the one who has proclaimed exclusive authority to define all that. Who the hell am I to resist

                                Why is it that these days you feel compelled to lie about what I have said? Are you really that willing to admit that you can't come up with a legitimate response to what I actually did say?

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  There you go again, damning all of American history

                                  Don't try to blame America for your neuroses, Stan. Blame your mommy and daddy if you must, but leave Lady Liberty out of it. And at least consider not telling us every time your feelings are hurt by being reminded that there is homosexuality in the universe.

                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  I don't know, dude, you're the one who has proclaimed exclusive authority to define all that. Who the hell am I to resist

                                  Why is it that these days you feel compelled to lie about what I have said? Are you really that willing to admit that you can't come up with a legitimate response to what I actually did say?

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  And at least consider not telling us every time your feelings are hurt by being reminded that there is homosexuality in the universe.

                                  I am actually pretty sure that lady liberty stood watch over a nation where homosexuality was illegal for most of the time she has been here. And that had nothing to do with me. We were just an evil sharia law befuddled society. (According to Oakman's history of the universe, anyway)

                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Why is it that these days you feel compelled to lie about what I have said? Are you really that willing to admit that you can't come up with a legitimate response to what I actually did say?

                                  Wow. Contradicting your own argument in one post. Thats quite an accomplishment even by your standards.

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    And at least consider not telling us every time your feelings are hurt by being reminded that there is homosexuality in the universe.

                                    I am actually pretty sure that lady liberty stood watch over a nation where homosexuality was illegal for most of the time she has been here. And that had nothing to do with me. We were just an evil sharia law befuddled society. (According to Oakman's history of the universe, anyway)

                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    Why is it that these days you feel compelled to lie about what I have said? Are you really that willing to admit that you can't come up with a legitimate response to what I actually did say?

                                    Wow. Contradicting your own argument in one post. Thats quite an accomplishment even by your standards.

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    I am actually pretty sure that lady liberty stood watch over a nation where homosexuality was illegal for most of the time she has been here.

                                    And that excuses your whining? She also stood guard over a country that didn't have indoor plumbing for 150 years or so.

                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Contradicting your own argument in one post.

                                    I'll take that as a yes, you need to lie.

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                                      yeah, Tim, yer just a walking, talking testimony to why the enlightenment was such a momentous epoch in human social progress. :rolleyes:

                                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                                      yeah, Tim, yer just a walking, talking testimony

                                      And Stan, you're just a humorless prude who can't stand the idea of anyone doing what he's afraid to do.

                                      "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                                        Intel 4004 wrote:

                                        I'll punish you by taking your money away from you too then

                                        You already have. Along with that of a lot of other people who pay taxes, and take some responsibility for their lives.

                                        Intel 4004 wrote:

                                        I could use about 80 Starbucks Double-Shots in the fridge.

                                        Starbucks makes such lousy coffee.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        Starbucks makes such lousy coffee.

                                        But Nazi Girl works there now and promised to show him her swastika again if he'd come in and by her coffee. :laugh:

                                        "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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