"We are out of money" says Obama "So we must subsidize health care"
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Actually, doing more with less is the very definition of productivity.
Now you're playing word games. You seriously expect me to believe that if there are fifty small practices, and each of those practices needs to somehow come up with their own fee schedule, means of billing, billing records, and payment processing that would be a more productive system than consolidating and standardizing those services through a single agency? What are you smoking?
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Fisticuffs wrote:
You seriously expect me to believe that if there are fifty small practices, and each of those practices needs to somehow come up with their own fee schedule, means of billing, billing records, and payment processing that would be a more productive system than consolidating and standardizing those services through a single agency?
Yes, I actually do expect that. These organizations are set up to achieve the very results Jon mentioned below - sucking as much money as possible out of a captive customer base forced to deal with a business plan that has intentionally eleminated competition. There is no reason that a medical practice could not operate the same way any other small business does. You don't see other business operations requiring insuarnce of their customers, yet they confront the same basic business requirements any doctor would. Yes, obviously, the costs of non-payment has to be figured into their business plan, but that is no different than any other business. And the issue of catastrophic health problems is not an argument against that. No system can provide top level service for everyone who needs to be cared for when they are not able to provide for their own needs due to illness and injury. It simply cannot be done.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Fisticuffs wrote:
You seriously expect me to believe that if there are fifty small practices, and each of those practices needs to somehow come up with their own fee schedule, means of billing, billing records, and payment processing that would be a more productive system than consolidating and standardizing those services through a single agency?
Yes, I actually do expect that. These organizations are set up to achieve the very results Jon mentioned below - sucking as much money as possible out of a captive customer base forced to deal with a business plan that has intentionally eleminated competition. There is no reason that a medical practice could not operate the same way any other small business does. You don't see other business operations requiring insuarnce of their customers, yet they confront the same basic business requirements any doctor would. Yes, obviously, the costs of non-payment has to be figured into their business plan, but that is no different than any other business. And the issue of catastrophic health problems is not an argument against that. No system can provide top level service for everyone who needs to be cared for when they are not able to provide for their own needs due to illness and injury. It simply cannot be done.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
No system can provide top level service for everyone who needs to be cared for when they are not able to provide for their own needs due to illness and injury.
So who picked up the tab when your son has his catastrophic medical problem that drove you back into the waiting arms of god?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
No system can provide top level service for everyone who needs to be cared for when they are not able to provide for their own needs due to illness and injury.
So who picked up the tab when your son has his catastrophic medical problem that drove you back into the waiting arms of god?
"Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!Tim Craig wrote:
So who picked up the tab when your son has his catastrophic medical problem that drove you back into the waiting arms of god?
My wife's insurance plan provided by the state of Alabama.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Tim Craig wrote:
So who picked up the tab when your son has his catastrophic medical problem that drove you back into the waiting arms of god?
My wife's insurance plan provided by the state of Alabama.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
My wife's insurance plan provided by the state of Alabama.
:omg: Stan using health insurance and provided by the grace of public tax money. You sure are a do what I say and not what I do hypocrit, aren't you?
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Tim Craig wrote:
So who picked up the tab when your son has his catastrophic medical problem that drove you back into the waiting arms of god?
My wife's insurance plan provided by the state of Alabama.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
My wife's insurance plan provided by the state of Alabama.
Oh, out of curiosity, just how big was the tab?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
My wife's insurance plan provided by the state of Alabama.
:omg: Stan using health insurance and provided by the grace of public tax money. You sure are a do what I say and not what I do hypocrit, aren't you?
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ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!<blockquote class="FQ"><div class="FQA">Tim Craig wrote:</div>Stan using health insurance and provided by the grace of public tax money. You sure are a do what I say and not what I do hypocrit, aren't you? </blockquote> My hyprocicy knows no limits - I also used the GI bill to help pay for college, and took out low interest loans. But the fact of the matter is I am locked into an economy crippled by these kinds of programs. Like everyone else, I have no choice but to use them. That is the entire point of creating them in the first place - making people dependent. Well, sorry, but I have every intention of biting the hand that feeds me.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
My wife's insurance plan provided by the state of Alabama.
Oh, out of curiosity, just how big was the tab?
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ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!Tim Craig wrote:
Oh, out of curiosity, just how big was the tab?
Don't remember, but it was pretty steep. The most expensive part was the massive doses of gamma globulin my son needed.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.