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  • L Lost User

    Ilíon wrote:

    By now, we all know (or ought to) that it is highly offensive when English people fly or display the English flag in England.

    :rolleyes: How come, then, that the cross of St George is displayed more often now than it was 20 years ago? On cars, vans, trucks, houses, allotment sheds, etc.? It is common to see the cross of St. Andrew and the Red Dragon similarly displayed by the Scots and Welsh. The fact that the BNP (a right wing, whites only, party) display the cross of St George does upset Englishmen who are not of a right wing, whites only, disposition. Personally, I am happy for British Nationalists to wave the flag of a man born in Turkey.

    Bob Emmett

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    Even though he has most likely never set foot outside of N. America, Ilion is convinced that he knows more about the country that you live than you ever will.

    Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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      Bob Emmett wrote:

      [nothing, nothing at all]

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      As Bob comments, it is offensive only where the BNP uses it to stir up racial disharmony. But as explained here [^] it is currently illegal to fly any national flag from a non-vertical flagpole, and that flagpole needs local authority planning permission before its erection.

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        Even though he has most likely never set foot outside of N. America, Ilion is convinced that he knows more about the country that you live than you ever will.

        Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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        Chris Austin wrote:

        Even though he has most likely never set foot outside of N. America

        He gives no sign of ever having traveled outside the town limits.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          Chris Austin wrote:

          Even though he has most likely never set foot outside of N. America

          He gives no sign of ever having traveled outside the town limits.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          Oakman wrote:

          He gives no sign of ever having traveled outside the town limits.

          Or his immediate family's gene pool.

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            Oakman wrote:

            He gives no sign of ever having traveled outside the town limits.

            Or his immediate family's gene pool.

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            True - but that only goes back 3 or 4 generations.

            I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave

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              By now, we all know (or ought to) that it is highly offensive when English people fly or display the English flag in England. But, as it turns out, it is also highly offensive when Americans fly or display the USA flag in the US. CBS11TV (Dallas/Ft Worth): Mansfield Flag Controversy Draws Worldwide Outrage[^]

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              Ilíon wrote:

              it is highly offensive when English people fly or display the English flag in England

              Which flag would that be? There is no English flag so lets get some terms right and try to work out which one you are referring to: There are the Royal Standards; HM The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh and The Prince of Wales each have one. These are flown by, and for, their owners. No one else can fly any of these flags. There is and never was offence taken by the flying of these. There is the Union Flag, or Union Jack when flown at sea, that is the flag of the United Kingdom. This is normally only flown on specific occasions, though its use has become more wide spread over recent years. Finally we come to the Flag of St George, the Patron Saint of England. This flag is also used by Georgia and Northern Ireland (with the Ulster Hand superimposed). I am guessing that your reference is to the Flag of St George. It is true that in the recent past, lets go back 10-15 years, the flag was used heavily by the Far Right and become associated with the xenophobic hatred the evangelised. But in the last five years or so, the Flag has been reclaimed as the symbol of England and Englishness. There rehabilitation of the flag here started with car mounted flags to show support for England's sports teams. So your assertion is wrong and that makes your argument flawed. Sorry, 0/10.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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              • I Ilion

                Bob Emmett wrote:

                [nothing, nothing at all]

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                I am soooo chastened! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                • I Ilion

                  Bob Emmett wrote:

                  [nothing, nothing at all]

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                  Actually, he did say stuff - a whole couple of sentences worth!

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                    As Bob comments, it is offensive only where the BNP uses it to stir up racial disharmony. But as explained here [^] it is currently illegal to fly any national flag from a non-vertical flagpole, and that flagpole needs local authority planning permission before its erection.

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                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                    it is currently illegal to fly any national flag from a non-vertical flagpole

                    Epitomises England. :-D I am tempted to think that somewhere in Brussels there is a team of Englishmen drafting EU directives.

                    Bob Emmett

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                      I am soooo chastened! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                      Bob Emmett

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                      Cower down mortal! You cannot withstand the power of Troy! All Hail King Troy! [sorry I can't keep a straight face anymore]


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                        Bob Emmett wrote:

                        How come, then, that the cross of St George is displayed more often now than it was 20 years ago?

                        Ilion has a hair across his ass for Great Britain. There's nothing you can say that will get through to him; nothing he will say to you that will have any relation to the real world.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        Ilion has a hair across his ass for Great Britain. There's nothing you can say that will get through to him; nothing he will say to you that will have any relation to the real world.

                        At least he's only like that for Great Britain, huh.

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                          Oakman wrote:

                          Ilion has a hair across his ass for Great Britain. There's nothing you can say that will get through to him; nothing he will say to you that will have any relation to the real world.

                          At least he's only like that for Great Britain, huh.

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                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                          At least he's only like that for Great Britain, huh.

                          Mostly England and Canada for some reason.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                            Actually, he did say stuff - a whole couple of sentences worth!

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                            The words were too big and coherent. That's why Troy-Boy didn't understand.


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                              The words were too big and coherent. That's why Troy-Boy didn't understand.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                              williamnw wrote:

                              The words were too big and coherent. That's why Troy-Boy didn't understand.

                              Oh, let's not pretend that he's incapable of understanding words on at least a superficial level. It's not definitions or grammar that he struggles with, but the overcoming of his own close-minded narcissism.

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                                As Bob comments, it is offensive only where the BNP uses it to stir up racial disharmony. But as explained here [^] it is currently illegal to fly any national flag from a non-vertical flagpole, and that flagpole needs local authority planning permission before its erection.

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                                Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                As Bob comments, it is offensive only where the BNP uses it to stir up racial disharmony.

                                You obviously haven't been paying attention ... or you're actively lying.

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                                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                  As Bob comments, it is offensive only where the BNP uses it to stir up racial disharmony.

                                  You obviously haven't been paying attention ... or you're actively lying.

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                                  Troy, it must be really hard work to be as lifeless, sluggish and predictable as you, you have almost made it an art form. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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