A few isolated instances that demonstrate the strength of liberty in the USofA
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Pretty damned incredible. My God, where have all the Americans gone?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Pretty damned incredible. My God, where have all the Americans gone?
They have gone on believing liberal collectivism and having orgasmic experiences at Obama's speech rallies.
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Forgive me, I seldom comment on the politics of the USA, I don't live there, so I know almost zilch. First two items, fair enough, but in the third item, Ed appears to me to ignore the context of the original memorandum, giving rise to a faulty interpretation.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
if they're really rah rah for your Marxist spending.
So section 3 of the Memorandum on Ensuring Responsible Spending of Recovery Act Funds required all oral communications between federally registered lobbyists and government officials concerning Recovery Act policy to be disclosed on the Internet; barred registered lobbyists from having oral communications with government officials about specific Recovery Act projects or applications and instead required those communications to be in writing; and also required those written communications to be posted on the Internet. Presumably, this was an attempt at transparency, so that the "evil machinations" of lobbyists re spending of funds could be laid bare to all. Now that can't be bad, surely? Now it is to be extended so that anyone attempting to influence spending decisions will have to communicate in writing. An attempt has been made to deter special interest pleading, as it will be published for all to see. With special interest pleading out of the way, decisions should(!) then be made only on merit. How does replacing oral with written comment silence dissent and criticism?
Bob Emmett
Bob Emmett wrote:
How does replacing oral with written comment silence dissent and criticism?
How can it not? At least in theory, any U.S. Senator who stands up in the well of the Senate and offers a motion to defund some of the wasteful programs is a criminal. Sean Hannity who, tonight, will do a special show on the 101 most wasteful programs, appears to be in violation.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Power to the people, if they're controlling your votes[^] or if they're part of your illegal crew[^] or if they're really rah rah for your Marxist spending[^]. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, especially since I loaded up on .38 specials yesterday.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
loaded up on .38 specials yesterday.
That's too weird, my Mossberg came today!, adding to my collection. :) ----- On the bad side, there has been such a run on new ammo (hard to get) I had to pick up some reloads (38, 357) from a guy in Michigan, and they are darn good. On my reorder, he emailed me to say there are now so many people doing reloads that primer/igniters are on 2 month back order. :(( Sounds like a lot of people thinking alike. ---edit--- fixed typo
modified on Saturday, May 30, 2009 6:57 PM
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
loaded up on .38 specials yesterday.
That's too weird, my Mossberg came today!, adding to my collection. :) ----- On the bad side, there has been such a run on new ammo (hard to get) I had to pick up some reloads (38, 357) from a guy in Michigan, and they are darn good. On my reorder, he emailed me to say there are now so many people doing reloads that primer/igniters are on 2 month back order. :(( Sounds like a lot of people thinking alike. ---edit--- fixed typo
modified on Saturday, May 30, 2009 6:57 PM
kmg365 wrote:
adding to my collection.
and tomorrow I'm going back to the Indy Gun show and picking up a Glock 26 and a derringer (for my wife's purse). I'll get a conversion kit for the Glock that will allow me to target shoot .22LR instead of 9mm. Makes tarket shooting pretty inexpensive.
kmg365 wrote:
On the bad side, there has been such a run on new ammo
there is a shortage at local Indy gun shops but there is plenty at the gun show, new and reloads. I was picking up the .38 specials for $24 per 50 round box. 110 grain, 124 grain slightly higher but the 110 is good enough. try MidwayUSA.com they're in MO. and I can usually find what I need. same day shipping, typically.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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kmg365 wrote:
adding to my collection.
and tomorrow I'm going back to the Indy Gun show and picking up a Glock 26 and a derringer (for my wife's purse). I'll get a conversion kit for the Glock that will allow me to target shoot .22LR instead of 9mm. Makes tarket shooting pretty inexpensive.
kmg365 wrote:
On the bad side, there has been such a run on new ammo
there is a shortage at local Indy gun shops but there is plenty at the gun show, new and reloads. I was picking up the .38 specials for $24 per 50 round box. 110 grain, 124 grain slightly higher but the 110 is good enough. try MidwayUSA.com they're in MO. and I can usually find what I need. same day shipping, typically.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
How does replacing oral with written comment silence dissent and criticism?
How can it not? At least in theory, any U.S. Senator who stands up in the well of the Senate and offers a motion to defund some of the wasteful programs is a criminal. Sean Hannity who, tonight, will do a special show on the 101 most wasteful programs, appears to be in violation.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
It is all in the context of Section 3 of the Memorandum: oral communications between lobbyists and government officials, merely extending it to anyone exerting influence on the processing of applications. The intent is to get all communications "posted on the Internet for every American to see". A Senator's comments on any project or application from the well of the Senate would be a matter of public record, and is already posted on the Internet. Comments on any project or application via broadcasting media are in the public domain. They are not aimed specifically at the appropriate government official(s). Unlike: "We interrupt our program to lobby for the funding of the Salt Lake City Tidal Power Scheme: Your mortgage paid, the beachfront house, free health care for your family, and your kids through college - that's our final offer, Bernard." Surely there is enough to criticize with this administration (as with all others) without having to spin every bureaucratic missive into an attack on the constitution?
Bob Emmett
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It is all in the context of Section 3 of the Memorandum: oral communications between lobbyists and government officials, merely extending it to anyone exerting influence on the processing of applications. The intent is to get all communications "posted on the Internet for every American to see". A Senator's comments on any project or application from the well of the Senate would be a matter of public record, and is already posted on the Internet. Comments on any project or application via broadcasting media are in the public domain. They are not aimed specifically at the appropriate government official(s). Unlike: "We interrupt our program to lobby for the funding of the Salt Lake City Tidal Power Scheme: Your mortgage paid, the beachfront house, free health care for your family, and your kids through college - that's our final offer, Bernard." Surely there is enough to criticize with this administration (as with all others) without having to spin every bureaucratic missive into an attack on the constitution?
Bob Emmett
Bob Emmett wrote:
merely extending it to anyone exerting influence on the processing of applications.
So if I call up Senator Graham and tell him that if he wants my vote he should do such and so about funding this and that program?
Bob Emmett wrote:
Surely there is enough to criticize with this administration (as with all others) without having to spin every bureaucratic missive into an attack on the constitution?
Perhaps, but shouldn't beaucracy be fought on every level and all of the time? Is there a more pernicious evil? (Stan thinks insurance companies are, but he's wrong.)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Bob Emmett wrote:
merely extending it to anyone exerting influence on the processing of applications.
So if I call up Senator Graham and tell him that if he wants my vote he should do such and so about funding this and that program?
Bob Emmett wrote:
Surely there is enough to criticize with this administration (as with all others) without having to spin every bureaucratic missive into an attack on the constitution?
Perhaps, but shouldn't beaucracy be fought on every level and all of the time? Is there a more pernicious evil? (Stan thinks insurance companies are, but he's wrong.)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
So if I call up Senator Graham and tell him that if he wants my vote he should do such and so about funding this and that program?
As funding will be determined on merit based competition, he will have to produce a great rationale. I doubt "I might not get re-elected" will cut it.
Oakman wrote:
Perhaps, but shouldn't beaucracy be fought on every level and all of the time?
Excessive bureaucracy, yes. Excessive special pleading also. I worked 40 years in IT, I encountered bribery only in the public sector. Recommend the purchase of our system to the council and ...
Oakman wrote:
Stan thinks insurance companies are
I read your exchange. There was certainly more waste and bureaucracy in the insurance companies I worked for than in the local authorities. But, then, they had a higher disposable income, and boy, did they dispose of it.
Bob Emmett
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Oakman wrote:
So if I call up Senator Graham and tell him that if he wants my vote he should do such and so about funding this and that program?
As funding will be determined on merit based competition, he will have to produce a great rationale. I doubt "I might not get re-elected" will cut it.
Oakman wrote:
Perhaps, but shouldn't beaucracy be fought on every level and all of the time?
Excessive bureaucracy, yes. Excessive special pleading also. I worked 40 years in IT, I encountered bribery only in the public sector. Recommend the purchase of our system to the council and ...
Oakman wrote:
Stan thinks insurance companies are
I read your exchange. There was certainly more waste and bureaucracy in the insurance companies I worked for than in the local authorities. But, then, they had a higher disposable income, and boy, did they dispose of it.
Bob Emmett
Bob Emmett wrote:
As funding will be determined on merit based competition
I've got a bridge I would like to sell you. . .
Bob Emmett wrote:
I encountered bribery only in the public sector
And in 'Britain's Got Talent.'
Bob Emmett wrote:
But, then, they had a higher disposable income, and boy, did they dispose of it.
If you spend a lot of money, everybody else will be happy - it's called the tinkle-down theory, or "I'm all right, piss on you, Jack!"
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Bob Emmett wrote:
As funding will be determined on merit based competition
I've got a bridge I would like to sell you. . .
Bob Emmett wrote:
I encountered bribery only in the public sector
And in 'Britain's Got Talent.'
Bob Emmett wrote:
But, then, they had a higher disposable income, and boy, did they dispose of it.
If you spend a lot of money, everybody else will be happy - it's called the tinkle-down theory, or "I'm all right, piss on you, Jack!"
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
I've got a bridge I would like to sell you...
I do not for one minute think that the intention of this memo will ever be realised. Tap the phone, bug the office, scan the emails nothing will stop corruption.
Oakman wrote:
'Britain's Got Talent.'
You'd never know it.
Oakman wrote:
If you spend a lot of money, everybody else will be happy
If you invest a lot of money so that you can afford to pay claims, people are happier yet. Still, what's an annual loss of £190m for several years compared with AIG?
Bob Emmett