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  • S Stan Shannon

    I am puzzled by intelligent people who stand by and allow their country to be taken over and run by extreme radical types. [^] Yeah, so am I...

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    A little while back, you linked to an article in the NY Times. Now it is Salon!! Won't be long before you are wearing an Obama T-shirt and chanting: "Yes we can!"

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      A little while back, you linked to an article in the NY Times. Now it is Salon!! Won't be long before you are wearing an Obama T-shirt and chanting: "Yes we can!"

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      Stan Shannon
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      Heck, John, I also listen to NPR and Bill Moyers on PBS, and any number of other sources in support of collectivism.

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        I am puzzled by intelligent people who stand by and allow their country to be taken over and run by extreme radical types. [^] Yeah, so am I...

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Stan Shannon wrote:

        Yeah, so am I...

        But back then, according to Mr. Payne: "Everybody who was able-bodied was drafted." Nowadays great patriots like Cheney and Rush, and Ilion like to scream "Let's fight to the last ounce of your kid's blood!" without ever having served themselves. I guess the times, they are a-changin'.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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        • O Oakman

          Stan Shannon wrote:

          Yeah, so am I...

          But back then, according to Mr. Payne: "Everybody who was able-bodied was drafted." Nowadays great patriots like Cheney and Rush, and Ilion like to scream "Let's fight to the last ounce of your kid's blood!" without ever having served themselves. I guess the times, they are a-changin'.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          Oakman wrote:

          Nowadays great patriots like Cheney and Rush, and Ilion like to scream "Let's fight to the last ounce of your kid's blood!" without ever having served themselves. I guess the times, they are a-changin'.

          Point taken. That,however, would not be irony. Mr. Payne's own great-nephew is far more representative of what he fought against in WWII than anything this country has ever had to contend with throughout its entire history.

          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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            Oakman wrote:

            Nowadays great patriots like Cheney and Rush, and Ilion like to scream "Let's fight to the last ounce of your kid's blood!" without ever having served themselves. I guess the times, they are a-changin'.

            Point taken. That,however, would not be irony. Mr. Payne's own great-nephew is far more representative of what he fought against in WWII than anything this country has ever had to contend with throughout its entire history.

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            Mr. Payne's own great-nephew is far more representative of what he fought against in WWII than anything this country has ever had to contend with throughout its entire history.

            More successful, maybe. But worse than Huey Long?

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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            • O Oakman

              Stan Shannon wrote:

              Mr. Payne's own great-nephew is far more representative of what he fought against in WWII than anything this country has ever had to contend with throughout its entire history.

              More successful, maybe. But worse than Huey Long?

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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              Oakman wrote:

              But worse than Huey Long?

              Thats hard to say since Long wasn't ultimately successful. All I really know about Long is what I have picked up reading more general treatment of that era, but my imprssion is that he was more of a populist and an opportunist than deeply committed to any given political paradigm. I suppose that would make him more like Hitler compared to Obama's Mussolini.

              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                Oakman wrote:

                But worse than Huey Long?

                Thats hard to say since Long wasn't ultimately successful. All I really know about Long is what I have picked up reading more general treatment of that era, but my imprssion is that he was more of a populist and an opportunist than deeply committed to any given political paradigm. I suppose that would make him more like Hitler compared to Obama's Mussolini.

                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                Stan Shannon wrote:

                I suppose that would make him more like Hitler compared to Obama's Mussolini.

                I expect my understanding of him is colored by "All the King's Men," but from what I have read, you have it right. There are interesting conspiracy theories that suggest FDR had him gunned down, fearing a fight for the '36 nomination.

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                • O Oakman

                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  I suppose that would make him more like Hitler compared to Obama's Mussolini.

                  I expect my understanding of him is colored by "All the King's Men," but from what I have read, you have it right. There are interesting conspiracy theories that suggest FDR had him gunned down, fearing a fight for the '36 nomination.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                  Oakman wrote:

                  There are interesting conspiracy theories that suggest FDR had him gunned down, fearing a fight for the '36 nomination.

                  I suppose Wilkie should feel fortunate than...

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    Oakman wrote:

                    There are interesting conspiracy theories that suggest FDR had him gunned down, fearing a fight for the '36 nomination.

                    I suppose Wilkie should feel fortunate than...

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    I suppose Wilkie should feel fortunate than..

                    Hey, he got to be an ambassador out of the deal. Prize fighters take a dive for less every week.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      Heck, John, I also listen to NPR and Bill Moyers on PBS, and any number of other sources in support of collectivism.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      Welcome brother. We hope the re-education experience is a pleasant one.

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