What do you do exactly?
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What do you do in detail to make money? Since some of you like to brag how much do you make doing what you describe in detail?
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What do you do in detail to make money? Since some of you like to brag how much do you make doing what you describe in detail?
I drown puppies, stone kittens, smash atoms, break windows, race snails and, write and direct fictional accounts of current and historical events and publish them via people who like to scream a lot on youtube.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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I drown puppies, stone kittens, smash atoms, break windows, race snails and, write and direct fictional accounts of current and historical events and publish them via people who like to scream a lot on youtube.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Chris Austin wrote:
I drown puppies, stone kittens, smash atoms, break windows, race snails and, write and direct fictional accounts of current and historical events
Oh, you must be here in the SoapBox searching for inspiration... I hope you're putting our names in the credits somewhere. :-D
You never ever could win a war / That's what you have to learn / Here everybody is a loser / You will get nothing in return - "Fortunes of War", Funker Vogt
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What do you do in detail to make money? Since some of you like to brag how much do you make doing what you describe in detail?
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Your problem is, as it has been all along, that you want the result without the effort. But hey! that may be the most common human problem of all.
Ilíon wrote:
Your problem is, as it had been all along, that you want the result without the effort.
I strive for efficiency. I put a lot of effort into things I enjoy, or things that I know will make money. I could spend eternity working on something and then have it sit on my hardrive so I can look at it 10 years later and recollect on the good ol' days. You didn't answer my question.
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Your problem is, as it has been all along, that you want the result without the effort. But hey! that may be the most common human problem of all.
Ilíon wrote:
you want the result without the effort. But hey! that may be the most common human problem of all
Yup. The solution is to find people to do it for you. Used to be you could get people to do it for free, but that was outlawed. Nowadays, you can get it done in China for next to nothing.
You never ever could win a war / That's what you have to learn / Here everybody is a loser / You will get nothing in return - "Fortunes of War", Funker Vogt
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What do you do in detail to make money? Since some of you like to brag how much do you make doing what you describe in detail?
See, if we told you, then you may try to do it too. We're not scared you'd replace us, we're just worried that you may actually bluff your way into a job you don't deserve, and end up sitting next to us.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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See, if we told you, then you may try to do it too. We're not scared you'd replace us, we're just worried that you may actually bluff your way into a job you don't deserve, and end up sitting next to us.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
See, if we told you, then you may try to do it too. We're not scared you'd replace us, we're just worried that you may actually bluff your way into a job you don't deserve, and end up sitting next to us.
How bout that welfare? Someday I'm going to fucking own you.
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Christian Graus wrote:
See, if we told you, then you may try to do it too. We're not scared you'd replace us, we're just worried that you may actually bluff your way into a job you don't deserve, and end up sitting next to us.
How bout that welfare? Someday I'm going to fucking own you.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
ow bout that welfare? Someday I'm going to f***ing own you.
I'm not sure I follow. You hope to collect enough welfare to 'own' me ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
ow bout that welfare? Someday I'm going to f***ing own you.
I'm not sure I follow. You hope to collect enough welfare to 'own' me ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
I'm not sure I follow. You hope to collect enough welfare to 'own' me ?
I'll collect the welfare now slave, since you won't give me any ideas on how to make it myself. Then once I do figure out how to make some big bucks I will dominate you with my wealth.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I'm not sure I follow. You hope to collect enough welfare to 'own' me ?
I'll collect the welfare now slave, since you won't give me any ideas on how to make it myself. Then once I do figure out how to make some big bucks I will dominate you with my wealth.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'll collect the welfare now slave, since you won't give me any ideas on how to make it myself.
I've given you plenty of ideas in the past. You've not done any of them, because they involve actual work.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Then once I do figure out how to make some big bucks I will dominate you with my wealth.
Bill Gates is incapable of 'dominating me with his wealth'. I don't have any debt, which is the only way I can see for a wealthy person to set out to manipulate me.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'll collect the welfare now slave, since you won't give me any ideas on how to make it myself.
I've given you plenty of ideas in the past. You've not done any of them, because they involve actual work.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Then once I do figure out how to make some big bucks I will dominate you with my wealth.
Bill Gates is incapable of 'dominating me with his wealth'. I don't have any debt, which is the only way I can see for a wealthy person to set out to manipulate me.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
I've given you plenty of ideas in the past. You've not done any of them, because they involve actual work.
No you haven't. You have told me to go see a doctor. That doesn't make money. :rolleyes:
Christian Graus wrote:
I don't have any debt, which is the only way I can see for a wealthy person to set out to manipulate me.
Maybe if I buy up the sector you get your money from you will be working for me, or competing against me.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I've given you plenty of ideas in the past. You've not done any of them, because they involve actual work.
No you haven't. You have told me to go see a doctor. That doesn't make money. :rolleyes:
Christian Graus wrote:
I don't have any debt, which is the only way I can see for a wealthy person to set out to manipulate me.
Maybe if I buy up the sector you get your money from you will be working for me, or competing against me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You have told me to go see a doctor. That doesn't make mon
Seeing a doctor may help make you employable. But, me and others have suggested you spend some time learning to program, and looking for a job, or looking for a job in tech support, given that you have the skillz to steal internet, one would assume you're capable of helping people secure systems, etc. It all comes down to age old advice. Get a job, or study to become employable.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Maybe if I buy up the sector you get your money from you will be working for me, or competing against me.
Assuming you magically make a ton of money, and decide to spend it trying to buy my employer ( I just googled, the price is 2.8 billion dollars, that assumes the price I saw was not just the main company, but all subsidiaries ), if I had to, I'd have no trouble finding a job in another field. So, your fantasy is not only pathetic, it's unworkable.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You have told me to go see a doctor. That doesn't make mon
Seeing a doctor may help make you employable. But, me and others have suggested you spend some time learning to program, and looking for a job, or looking for a job in tech support, given that you have the skillz to steal internet, one would assume you're capable of helping people secure systems, etc. It all comes down to age old advice. Get a job, or study to become employable.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Maybe if I buy up the sector you get your money from you will be working for me, or competing against me.
Assuming you magically make a ton of money, and decide to spend it trying to buy my employer ( I just googled, the price is 2.8 billion dollars, that assumes the price I saw was not just the main company, but all subsidiaries ), if I had to, I'd have no trouble finding a job in another field. So, your fantasy is not only pathetic, it's unworkable.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
It all comes down to age old advice. Get a job, or study to become employable.
I used to have a job AND work on peoples computers on the side AND learn how to program and build my own software. One of the top managers at the Waffle House gave me a job after I worked on his computer. I even had a job as a PC Technician once, but you know what? It wasn't all that great. I worked for tips, I felt used. I never got anywhere. The only way I am ever going to make good money is if I figure out something I can do on my own and make the money myself. You are not meant to make money as a Jr. You are just cheap disposable labor. All I need to do is figure out something I could sell, or something addictive that will keep people coming back to my particular site for add revenue. If I have a definite solid idea that will at least make a few hundred, that will be enough for me to really buckle down and get it done, a step forward. I would appreciate any usable ideas.
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Christian Graus wrote:
It all comes down to age old advice. Get a job, or study to become employable.
I used to have a job AND work on peoples computers on the side AND learn how to program and build my own software. One of the top managers at the Waffle House gave me a job after I worked on his computer. I even had a job as a PC Technician once, but you know what? It wasn't all that great. I worked for tips, I felt used. I never got anywhere. The only way I am ever going to make good money is if I figure out something I can do on my own and make the money myself. You are not meant to make money as a Jr. You are just cheap disposable labor. All I need to do is figure out something I could sell, or something addictive that will keep people coming back to my particular site for add revenue. If I have a definite solid idea that will at least make a few hundred, that will be enough for me to really buckle down and get it done, a step forward. I would appreciate any usable ideas.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I used to have a job AND work on peoples computers on the side AND learn how to program and build my own software.
Why did you stop ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I worked for tips, I felt used. I never got anywhere.
Well, waffle house is hardly a stellar career. But, most people start at the bottom and then claw their way up.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The only way I am ever going to make good money is if I figure out something I can do on my own and make the money myself.
OK - what skills do you have with which to make money ? You say you worked on computers on the side - why did you stop ? That sounds like a 'be your own boss, make all the money yourself' type scenario.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are not meant to make money as a Jr. You are just cheap disposable labor.
Well, that depends. If you're hired as skilled labour, you will be respected. If you take a non skilled job, and you work well at it, you will be respected. I've worked as a sales rep, I've put stickers in library books, I've set up science labs, I've worked in gardens. I've always got on well with my boss and always had their respect. I still talk to a lot of ex bosses socially, just because we were friends.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
All I need to do is figure out something I could sell, or something addictive that will keep people coming back to my particular site for add revenue.
Your problem is that you're trying to think of a scam, instead of thinking in terms of 'what can I offer that will make people want to visit my site/buy my services/deal with me'.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
If I have a definite solid idea that will at least make a few hundred, that will be enough for me to really buckle down and get it done, a step forward. I would appreciate any usable ideas.
I would imagine that making a few hundred bucks on the web can't be too hard. There's more than enough people on there that any half reasonable idea should net that sort of money. The only ideas I have, are the ones I've used. Get a job, work hard, study hard, be the best you can be, then take whatever chance comes your way. There was a time when articles on Code Project provided me
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I used to have a job AND work on peoples computers on the side AND learn how to program and build my own software.
Why did you stop ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I worked for tips, I felt used. I never got anywhere.
Well, waffle house is hardly a stellar career. But, most people start at the bottom and then claw their way up.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The only way I am ever going to make good money is if I figure out something I can do on my own and make the money myself.
OK - what skills do you have with which to make money ? You say you worked on computers on the side - why did you stop ? That sounds like a 'be your own boss, make all the money yourself' type scenario.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are not meant to make money as a Jr. You are just cheap disposable labor.
Well, that depends. If you're hired as skilled labour, you will be respected. If you take a non skilled job, and you work well at it, you will be respected. I've worked as a sales rep, I've put stickers in library books, I've set up science labs, I've worked in gardens. I've always got on well with my boss and always had their respect. I still talk to a lot of ex bosses socially, just because we were friends.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
All I need to do is figure out something I could sell, or something addictive that will keep people coming back to my particular site for add revenue.
Your problem is that you're trying to think of a scam, instead of thinking in terms of 'what can I offer that will make people want to visit my site/buy my services/deal with me'.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
If I have a definite solid idea that will at least make a few hundred, that will be enough for me to really buckle down and get it done, a step forward. I would appreciate any usable ideas.
I would imagine that making a few hundred bucks on the web can't be too hard. There's more than enough people on there that any half reasonable idea should net that sort of money. The only ideas I have, are the ones I've used. Get a job, work hard, study hard, be the best you can be, then take whatever chance comes your way. There was a time when articles on Code Project provided me
Christian Graus wrote:
Why did you stop ?
Well, after 'helping' the other side of my family with a place to live and crap I lost my job because I wasn't able to show up one day because of an incident with my mom. I wasted all of my credit on them and they collect welfare. They used me like a fool. It pisses me off so much. :mad:
Christian Graus wrote:
OK - what skills do you have with which to make money ?
I have extensive skills with computers. I can build them, diagnose and repair hardware and software problems. I can even completely take apart a laptop and put it back together, I replaced a laptop motherboard once. As far as programming goes I am mainly a hobbyist but I know the ins and outs well enough to make something decent.
Christian Graus wrote:
Your problem is that you're trying to think of a scam
No I'm not.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Why did you stop ?
Well, after 'helping' the other side of my family with a place to live and crap I lost my job because I wasn't able to show up one day because of an incident with my mom. I wasted all of my credit on them and they collect welfare. They used me like a fool. It pisses me off so much. :mad:
Christian Graus wrote:
OK - what skills do you have with which to make money ?
I have extensive skills with computers. I can build them, diagnose and repair hardware and software problems. I can even completely take apart a laptop and put it back together, I replaced a laptop motherboard once. As far as programming goes I am mainly a hobbyist but I know the ins and outs well enough to make something decent.
Christian Graus wrote:
Your problem is that you're trying to think of a scam
No I'm not.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, after 'helping' the other side of my family with a place to live and crap I lost my job because I wasn't able to show up one day because of an incident with my mom. I wasted all of my credit on them and they collect welfare. They used me like a fool. It pisses me off so much.
I was talking more about why did you stop freelancing computer support ? Family can suck. I told you about my being kicked out of home, so you realise that not everything has worked out for me, I've just made the most of where I am, and kept pushing onwards and upward.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I have extensive skills with computers. I can build them, diagnose and repair hardware and software problems. I can even completely take apart a laptop and put it back together, I replaced a laptop motherboard once. As far as programming goes I am mainly a hobbyist but I know the ins and outs well enough to make something decent.
So, instead of trying too hard to be a better programmer, concentrate on tech support type jobs. Do you apply for jobs like that ? The more skill you bring to the table, the more respect you will get from an employer. No-one is going to respect a fry cook, that's just a fact. If you do a job that anyone can do, they won't care how they treat you.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, after 'helping' the other side of my family with a place to live and crap I lost my job because I wasn't able to show up one day because of an incident with my mom. I wasted all of my credit on them and they collect welfare. They used me like a fool. It pisses me off so much.
I was talking more about why did you stop freelancing computer support ? Family can suck. I told you about my being kicked out of home, so you realise that not everything has worked out for me, I've just made the most of where I am, and kept pushing onwards and upward.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I have extensive skills with computers. I can build them, diagnose and repair hardware and software problems. I can even completely take apart a laptop and put it back together, I replaced a laptop motherboard once. As far as programming goes I am mainly a hobbyist but I know the ins and outs well enough to make something decent.
So, instead of trying too hard to be a better programmer, concentrate on tech support type jobs. Do you apply for jobs like that ? The more skill you bring to the table, the more respect you will get from an employer. No-one is going to respect a fry cook, that's just a fact. If you do a job that anyone can do, they won't care how they treat you.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
I was talking more about why did you stop freelancing computer support ?
I got tired of being paid with a hit of pot instead of cash.
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Christian Graus wrote:
It all comes down to age old advice. Get a job, or study to become employable.
I used to have a job AND work on peoples computers on the side AND learn how to program and build my own software. One of the top managers at the Waffle House gave me a job after I worked on his computer. I even had a job as a PC Technician once, but you know what? It wasn't all that great. I worked for tips, I felt used. I never got anywhere. The only way I am ever going to make good money is if I figure out something I can do on my own and make the money myself. You are not meant to make money as a Jr. You are just cheap disposable labor. All I need to do is figure out something I could sell, or something addictive that will keep people coming back to my particular site for add revenue. If I have a definite solid idea that will at least make a few hundred, that will be enough for me to really buckle down and get it done, a step forward. I would appreciate any usable ideas.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
hat will be enough for me to really buckle down and get it done, a step forward. I would appreciate any usable ideas.
Ideas are nothing without effort. You honestly want to get ahead? You have to be willing to do things you don't enjoy. I paved roads in 120+ degree heat in Phoenix to afford school. If I am not mistaken Christian spent time working as an IT guy. Hell, have you considered plumbing? Seriously, a master plumber makes insane money so does a master Electrician. You have to be willing to get inclemently better week over week. That is the only way, in any society that people who are starting with a finical disadvantage can improve their situation without a miracle. You don't need to have a perfect plan to improve things, you just need to work and prepare yourself to make the best of opportunities when they present themselves. This also means controling who you associate with. Negative people or people who aren't going anywhere are nothing but a drain on energy and time.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Christian Graus wrote:
Why did you stop ?
Well, after 'helping' the other side of my family with a place to live and crap I lost my job because I wasn't able to show up one day because of an incident with my mom. I wasted all of my credit on them and they collect welfare. They used me like a fool. It pisses me off so much. :mad:
Christian Graus wrote:
OK - what skills do you have with which to make money ?
I have extensive skills with computers. I can build them, diagnose and repair hardware and software problems. I can even completely take apart a laptop and put it back together, I replaced a laptop motherboard once. As far as programming goes I am mainly a hobbyist but I know the ins and outs well enough to make something decent.
Christian Graus wrote:
Your problem is that you're trying to think of a scam
No I'm not.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, after 'helping' the other side of my family with a place to live and crap I lost my job because I wasn't able to show up one day because of an incident with my mom. I wasted all of my credit on them and they collect welfare. They used me like a fool. It pisses me off so much
You can't fix them and they won't help you pull yourself out any rut. Forget about them for the time being. A lot of us have very ugly stories about our families but you have to forget about them for a little while while you take care of yourself.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I have extensive skills with computers. I can build them, diagnose and repair hardware and software problems. I can even completely take apart a laptop and put it back together, I replaced a laptop motherboard once.
Focus on your strengths then. Seriously. Advertise your skills and services on free sites like craigslist and be willing to take a little less and do a little extra until you can build up a solid referral network.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell