Earth 2100
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Well, you have to at least acknowledge that overpopulation and resource depletion are major problems.
Absolutely, but do you really want to fall into the trap of fear and government control? I'd rather see new technology and nuclear power provide answers. I see an era that will make Nazi Germany look like heaven compared to what is to come of people don't snap out of it. Hitler had the Germans all riled up and ready to go over what people now can clearly see is evil.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Absolutely, but do you really want to fall into the trap of fear and government control?
This is your fantasy, it has nothing to do with reality, and reality is that you're saying that you don't want people to worry about overpopulation.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'd rather see new technology
Sure, we'd all like that. Where is this new technology going to come from ? Fact is, we have one energy source - the sun. There's no scalable way to use that source to feed, clothe and power us all to first world levels.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and nuclear power provide answers.
While that's our best bet, we have no way to dispose of the waste, especially if we start trying to scale THAT to power the world.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I see an era that will make Nazi Germany look like heaven compared to what is to come of people don't snap out of it.
Then you need to stop jerking off and lay off the youtube for a while.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Hitler had the Germans all riled up and ready to go over what people now can clearly see is evil.
Eugenics was widely accepted at the time. Hitler took it to a logical conclusion. Hitlers rise was mostly the fault of the West, both in the way they treated Germany, and in how they sat by and let him build a power base.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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Christian Graus wrote:
we have population issues.
Well, what do you think the solution to the problem is?
The only solution I can see, is to only allow each couple to have one child. This would quickly drop population levels to managable levels. The way to manage this, is to allow people who don't plan on having children, to sell their rights. That way, people can buy the right to have a second child, and people who have a second child, can be forced through taxes to buy that right. I don't see that happening, but it's the most equitable system I can think of, and without it, we're basically doomed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Absolutely, but do you really want to fall into the trap of fear and government control?
This is your fantasy, it has nothing to do with reality, and reality is that you're saying that you don't want people to worry about overpopulation.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'd rather see new technology
Sure, we'd all like that. Where is this new technology going to come from ? Fact is, we have one energy source - the sun. There's no scalable way to use that source to feed, clothe and power us all to first world levels.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and nuclear power provide answers.
While that's our best bet, we have no way to dispose of the waste, especially if we start trying to scale THAT to power the world.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I see an era that will make Nazi Germany look like heaven compared to what is to come of people don't snap out of it.
Then you need to stop jerking off and lay off the youtube for a while.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Hitler had the Germans all riled up and ready to go over what people now can clearly see is evil.
Eugenics was widely accepted at the time. Hitler took it to a logical conclusion. Hitlers rise was mostly the fault of the West, both in the way they treated Germany, and in how they sat by and let him build a power base.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
People like you make me wish humanity suffers.
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People like you make me wish humanity suffers.
And people like you, are quite plainly why humanity WILL continue to suffer.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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The only solution I can see, is to only allow each couple to have one child. This would quickly drop population levels to managable levels. The way to manage this, is to allow people who don't plan on having children, to sell their rights. That way, people can buy the right to have a second child, and people who have a second child, can be forced through taxes to buy that right. I don't see that happening, but it's the most equitable system I can think of, and without it, we're basically doomed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
The only solution I can see, is to only allow each couple to have one child. This would quickly drop population levels to managable levels. The way to manage this, is to allow people who don't plan on having children, to sell their rights.
So your solution is dictatorial tyrannical government control...GARBAGE! X|
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And people like you, are quite plainly why humanity WILL continue to suffer.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
And people like you, are quite plainly why humanity WILL continue to suffer.
No, it is people like you who want humanity to suffer. You get off on people being controlled.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The only solution I can see, is to only allow each couple to have one child. This would quickly drop population levels to managable levels. The way to manage this, is to allow people who don't plan on having children, to sell their rights.
So your solution is dictatorial tyrannical government control...GARBAGE! X|
Like I said, I don't like it, but it IS the only solution that would actually work. Unless we just kill the poor, and start again from there. Does that work better for you ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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Like I said, I don't like it, but it IS the only solution that would actually work. Unless we just kill the poor, and start again from there. Does that work better for you ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
Like I said, I don't like it, but it IS the only solution that would actually work.
I'd like to see it be implemented. It would be good for humanity.
Christian Graus wrote:
Unless we just kill the poor, and start again from there. Does that work better for you ?
No, welfare will take care of the poor. We need stronger welfare reform.
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Christian Graus wrote:
And people like you, are quite plainly why humanity WILL continue to suffer.
No, it is people like you who want humanity to suffer. You get off on people being controlled.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, it is people like you who want humanity to suffer. You get off on people being controlled.
We're back in your fantasy land again. I would like nothing better than a world with no form of government, where people didn't have to pay taxes, where everyone looked out for other people, and people were rewarded by how much effort they put into life, where everyone had the same opportunities, and the same chance to get ahead. In this ideal world, there would be enough food and other resources for everyone, where-ever they lived, and all we'd have to do is let people live their lives. That world does not exist, and wishing it did, won't change that.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, it is people like you who want humanity to suffer. You get off on people being controlled.
We're back in your fantasy land again. I would like nothing better than a world with no form of government, where people didn't have to pay taxes, where everyone looked out for other people, and people were rewarded by how much effort they put into life, where everyone had the same opportunities, and the same chance to get ahead. In this ideal world, there would be enough food and other resources for everyone, where-ever they lived, and all we'd have to do is let people live their lives. That world does not exist, and wishing it did, won't change that.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
That is why we must completely take charge of humanity.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Like I said, I don't like it, but it IS the only solution that would actually work.
I'd like to see it be implemented. It would be good for humanity.
Christian Graus wrote:
Unless we just kill the poor, and start again from there. Does that work better for you ?
No, welfare will take care of the poor. We need stronger welfare reform.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'd like to see it be implemented. It would be good for humanity.
OK, so you agree with me then ? Obviously, no right minded person could support the sort of enforced abortions that happened in China, that's why I suggest being able to sell the right to a child, as a way for people to have more than one. But, it's not pretty - nothing is. Fact is, there are too many of us, and too many of us are seeking the sort of energy intensive lifestyle that the West enjoys. There is no reason I can see why they should not have that right, but there's just not enough resources to make that possible.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, welfare will take care of the poor. We need stronger welfare reform.
Welfare is necessary, but it's also often abused. Either way, it hardly addresses the question of where the resources come from.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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That is why we must completely take charge of humanity.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
That is why we must completely take charge of humanity.
So now you're trying to get me to agree with your conspiracy theories ? No, I think that some rule of law is needed, to stop humans from ultimately harming themselves. But, I think the minimum level of law needed, is the maximum we should aim for. The issue of over population is the one that I think will lead to greater government control than I would like, either that, or we will just reach a crisis point. I just hope that we don't over farm all our crop lands, so that there's something left for the people who survive to start again. But, it seems most likely that we'll over crop, destroy our arable land, and leave behind a desert.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
I think you need to read a history book.
Look, if you have something enlightening to say then say it. Otherwise go do your homework and get your High School diploma. I got mine, you still got a ways to go before you are educated.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Look, if you have something enlightening to say then say it.
You've changed. Badly. X|
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Otherwise go do your homework and get your High School diploma. I got mine, you still got a ways to go before you are educated.
Even still in high school I'm more educated than you.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'd like to see it be implemented. It would be good for humanity.
OK, so you agree with me then ? Obviously, no right minded person could support the sort of enforced abortions that happened in China, that's why I suggest being able to sell the right to a child, as a way for people to have more than one. But, it's not pretty - nothing is. Fact is, there are too many of us, and too many of us are seeking the sort of energy intensive lifestyle that the West enjoys. There is no reason I can see why they should not have that right, but there's just not enough resources to make that possible.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, welfare will take care of the poor. We need stronger welfare reform.
Welfare is necessary, but it's also often abused. Either way, it hardly addresses the question of where the resources come from.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
that's why I suggest being able to sell the right to a child
I suggest all humans be sterilized at birth. If one wants to reproduce that person must go through a rigorous genetic testing procedure. After that person passes he/she can purchase a certified Pregnancy Women (which is a profession) to carry the baby until birth. The community will check the new human every month until the education procedure starts.
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Christian Graus wrote:
that's why I suggest being able to sell the right to a child
I suggest all humans be sterilized at birth. If one wants to reproduce that person must go through a rigorous genetic testing procedure. After that person passes he/she can purchase a certified Pregnancy Women (which is a profession) to carry the baby until birth. The community will check the new human every month until the education procedure starts.
Well, actually, I think that people on welfare should probably be sterilised. Given that they only produce more people who spend their lives on welfare.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Look, if you have something enlightening to say then say it.
You've changed. Badly. X|
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Otherwise go do your homework and get your High School diploma. I got mine, you still got a ways to go before you are educated.
Even still in high school I'm more educated than you.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
You've changed. Badly.
I've woken up to some of the major happenings the world.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Even still in high school I'm more educated than you.
You are not educated until you have your Diploma, which I have and you don't.
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Well, actually, I think that people on welfare should probably be sterilised. Given that they only produce more people who spend their lives on welfare.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, actually, I think that people on welfare should probably be sterilised. Given that they only produce more people who spend their lives on welfare.
Agreed, they sell their right to reproduce and many other rights when they become a financial burden on the rest of global community.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Well, actually, I think that people on welfare should probably be sterilised. Given that they only produce more people who spend their lives on welfare.
Agreed, they sell their right to reproduce and many other rights when they become a financial burden on the rest of global community.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Agreed, they sell their right to reproduce and many other rights when they become a financial burden on the rest of global community.
They are a burden to the local community. The global community has nothing to do with it. We need to either stop them from breeding, or, simply stop paying them to breed. If they had to pay for these kids, they would stop having them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Agreed, they sell their right to reproduce and many other rights when they become a financial burden on the rest of global community.
They are a burden to the local community. The global community has nothing to do with it. We need to either stop them from breeding, or, simply stop paying them to breed. If they had to pay for these kids, they would stop having them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
The global community has nothing to do with it.
The global community has everything to do with it. We must support third world nations.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
You've changed. Badly.
I've woken up to some of the major happenings the world.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Even still in high school I'm more educated than you.
You are not educated until you have your Diploma, which I have and you don't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I've woken up to some of the major happenings the world.
No you haven't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are not educated until you have your Diploma, which I have and you don't.
You're very wrong, and if I remember correctly you only got yours because you scribed for other students. And besides, I've already completed HSC maths and chemistry.