Collectivism : Why We Need It
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Earth 2100[^] was an inspirational piece of work. We are all in this together and we need to implement a stronger bond between societies around the world. We need an international body to regulate climate and resource controls and establish unity among the people of the world. In order to be safe from extremist groups, we need to be chipped from birth with a radio frequency ID chip paired with smart city technology. To preserve nature we need to collectivize within large cities. Our cities must have an intelligent networked grid that will monitor every human movement and identify every person. We need a cashless society where our RFIDs act as our credit cards. Let these stones be our guide.[^]
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Earth 2100[^] was an inspirational piece of work. We are all in this together and we need to implement a stronger bond between societies around the world. We need an international body to regulate climate and resource controls and establish unity among the people of the world. In order to be safe from extremist groups, we need to be chipped from birth with a radio frequency ID chip paired with smart city technology. To preserve nature we need to collectivize within large cities. Our cities must have an intelligent networked grid that will monitor every human movement and identify every person. We need a cashless society where our RFIDs act as our credit cards. Let these stones be our guide.[^]
ROTFL. I do recall doing this to you the other day, and I got a laugh out of your giving back what you got.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. To preserve nature we need to collectivize within large cities.
Large cities are the core of our problem. That's why I am more likely to surive than you are.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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ROTFL. I do recall doing this to you the other day, and I got a laugh out of your giving back what you got.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. To preserve nature we need to collectivize within large cities.
Large cities are the core of our problem. That's why I am more likely to surive than you are.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
Large cities are the core of our problem.
Preserving nature is the utmost priority. Public transport, human monitoring, and effeciant use of space is why we must collectivize into big cities.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Large cities are the core of our problem.
Preserving nature is the utmost priority. Public transport, human monitoring, and effeciant use of space is why we must collectivize into big cities.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Preserving nature is the utmost priority.
No, living in a sustainable way, is. The energy needed to ship food to large cities is a big problem. You need to stop thinking in terms of sci fi movies.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Public transport, human monitoring, and effeciant use of space is why we must collectivize into big cities.
I work from home. Outside my window, I can see food growing. I use no form of transport most of the time. I use my space efficiently, although our house is quite large, we grow a lot of food here. Human monitoring does nothing to solve the problem, and is obviously unacceptable. It's just part of the fantasy you're trying to claim that I support.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Preserving nature is the utmost priority.
No, living in a sustainable way, is. The energy needed to ship food to large cities is a big problem. You need to stop thinking in terms of sci fi movies.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Public transport, human monitoring, and effeciant use of space is why we must collectivize into big cities.
I work from home. Outside my window, I can see food growing. I use no form of transport most of the time. I use my space efficiently, although our house is quite large, we grow a lot of food here. Human monitoring does nothing to solve the problem, and is obviously unacceptable. It's just part of the fantasy you're trying to claim that I support.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
The only reason you aren't for collectivizing in big cities is because you don't want to live in one. You can't pick and choose the policies you wish to obey. You will be forced to comply.
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The only reason you aren't for collectivizing in big cities is because you don't want to live in one. You can't pick and choose the policies you wish to obey. You will be forced to comply.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The only reason you aren't for collectivizing in big cities is because you don't want to live in one.
I would admit that it's a factor.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You can't pick and choose the policies you wish to obey. You will be forced to comply.
No, I won't. If there was a global government, the thing I'd be most likely forced to do, is have more people in my house, and grow more food. Of course, I don't expect that to happen, because I think you're living in a fantasy world.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The only reason you aren't for collectivizing in big cities is because you don't want to live in one.
I would admit that it's a factor.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You can't pick and choose the policies you wish to obey. You will be forced to comply.
No, I won't. If there was a global government, the thing I'd be most likely forced to do, is have more people in my house, and grow more food. Of course, I don't expect that to happen, because I think you're living in a fantasy world.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
I don't expect that to happen
It will though. There is no real debate about it.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I don't expect that to happen
It will though. There is no real debate about it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There is no real debate about it.
That's right. The morons think it will, the rest of us know it won't. The inability of the conspiracy nuts to debate intelligently, is why there's no debate on it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There is no real debate about it.
That's right. The morons think it will, the rest of us know it won't. The inability of the conspiracy nuts to debate intelligently, is why there's no debate on it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
That's right. The morons think it will, the rest of us know it won't. The inability of the conspiracy nuts to debate intelligently, is why there's no debate on it.
Is it really that hard for you to believe that a more powerful international body will be implemented to help temper 'climate change' and population issues?
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Christian Graus wrote:
That's right. The morons think it will, the rest of us know it won't. The inability of the conspiracy nuts to debate intelligently, is why there's no debate on it.
Is it really that hard for you to believe that a more powerful international body will be implemented to help temper 'climate change' and population issues?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Is it really that hard for you to believe that a more powerful international body will be implemented to help temper 'climate change' and population issues?
It's obviously impossible. How bad would things have to be, before the countries of the world would submit to such a thing ? Bad enough that they no longer had the resources to wage war, which would not leave much in the way of resources for your 'new world order' to manipulate. you're just a kid. I've been hearing these stories all my life, in one form or another. The new world order has been 'imminent' for a long, long time, apparently.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Is it really that hard for you to believe that a more powerful international body will be implemented to help temper 'climate change' and population issues?
It's obviously impossible. How bad would things have to be, before the countries of the world would submit to such a thing ? Bad enough that they no longer had the resources to wage war, which would not leave much in the way of resources for your 'new world order' to manipulate. you're just a kid. I've been hearing these stories all my life, in one form or another. The new world order has been 'imminent' for a long, long time, apparently.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Christian Graus wrote:
It's obviously impossible.
The only reason you deny its existence is because you really don't want it. Denying its existance is not going to make it go away.
Christian Graus wrote:
How bad would things have to be
Bad enough that people demand their government take action against climate change, terrorism, economy, anything really. People are so stupid they would march right into it and not even realize it. Few people are actually informed. Ignorance is widespread.
Christian Graus wrote:
Bad enough that they no longer had the resources to wage war, which would not leave much in the way of resources for your 'new world order' to manipulate.
Remember the georgia guidstones? All they want is 500 million people in the world. Humans are the most valuable resource of all. We still have hundreds or even thousands of years of nuclear energy, wind and solar. Metals don't go anywhere. Food can always be grown, fish are always in the sea, we can eat ourselves if we have to.
Christian Graus wrote:
The new world order has been 'imminent' for a long, long time, apparently.
It takes a long time to develop, but we are almost theirs.
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's obviously impossible.
The only reason you deny its existence is because you really don't want it. Denying its existance is not going to make it go away.
Christian Graus wrote:
How bad would things have to be
Bad enough that people demand their government take action against climate change, terrorism, economy, anything really. People are so stupid they would march right into it and not even realize it. Few people are actually informed. Ignorance is widespread.
Christian Graus wrote:
Bad enough that they no longer had the resources to wage war, which would not leave much in the way of resources for your 'new world order' to manipulate.
Remember the georgia guidstones? All they want is 500 million people in the world. Humans are the most valuable resource of all. We still have hundreds or even thousands of years of nuclear energy, wind and solar. Metals don't go anywhere. Food can always be grown, fish are always in the sea, we can eat ourselves if we have to.
Christian Graus wrote:
The new world order has been 'imminent' for a long, long time, apparently.
It takes a long time to develop, but we are almost theirs.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The only reason you deny its existence is because you really don't want it.
Yeah, that must be it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People are so stupid they would march right into it and not even realize it. Few people are actually informed. Ignorance is widespread.
Yes, in my experience, people who go for conspiracy theories are failures at life, and so console themselves that everyone else is 'weak' and 'stupid' to not see what is going on before them.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Remember the georgia guidstones?
Remember how you couldn't explain why their existance proves *anything* about an actual conspiracy to achieve those things ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
wind and solar
Wrong. We have an infinite supply of those things, at least on the human timescale, so long as there are a lot less people, otherwise, it just does not scale.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Metals don't go anywhere.
Well, actually they do rust ( some of them ).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Food can always be grown
Wrong. Overfarming causes land to become unproductive. The deserts are expanding. The amount of land we have to grow food on, is shrinking
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
fish are always in the sea
Also wrong. Overfishing is destroying food stocks.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It takes a long time to develop, but we are almost theirs.
You just don't get it, do you ? People have been saying this for EVER. It was BS then, and it's BS now. The end is nigh. We got it wrong before, so this time you HAVE to believe us.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Preserving nature is the utmost priority.
No, living in a sustainable way, is. The energy needed to ship food to large cities is a big problem. You need to stop thinking in terms of sci fi movies.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Public transport, human monitoring, and effeciant use of space is why we must collectivize into big cities.
I work from home. Outside my window, I can see food growing. I use no form of transport most of the time. I use my space efficiently, although our house is quite large, we grow a lot of food here. Human monitoring does nothing to solve the problem, and is obviously unacceptable. It's just part of the fantasy you're trying to claim that I support.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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BS. From what I recall you do a lot of travelling in the US. How do you fuel your transport? With carrots from your garden? It is a well known fact that rural living has a much higher CO2 consumption than urban living.
Haakon S. wrote:
From what I recall you do a lot of travelling in the US.
Yeah, I do.
Haakon S. wrote:
How do you fuel your transport? With carrots from your garden?
LOL - obviously the part of my lifestyle where I travel to the US is far from carbon neutral. But, that's the reality of life today. I mean, I am talking about my ability to survive in the world that CSS is predicting, and it's far better for not living in a big city. Obviously in his bleak future, I would no longer be working, nor would I travel to the US.
Haakon S. wrote:
It is a well known fact that rural living has a much higher CO2 consumption than urban living.
Well, yes, if you factor in things like having to travel a long way to get to resources, etc. However, I actually live within five minutes of where I shop, most people in the US drive further than I do to buy groceries, at least in my experience ( which amounts to all corners of the country FWIW ). So, I call BS on that one. If I don't need to drive, then the only way I produce CO2 is through raising animals for meat, and assuming that humans continue to eat, raising it on the property where it gets eaten is as close to carbon neutral as it gets. Not to mention all the CO2 that my fruit trees, and the forest at the back of my property, consumes.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The only reason you deny its existence is because you really don't want it.
Yeah, that must be it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People are so stupid they would march right into it and not even realize it. Few people are actually informed. Ignorance is widespread.
Yes, in my experience, people who go for conspiracy theories are failures at life, and so console themselves that everyone else is 'weak' and 'stupid' to not see what is going on before them.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Remember the georgia guidstones?
Remember how you couldn't explain why their existance proves *anything* about an actual conspiracy to achieve those things ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
wind and solar
Wrong. We have an infinite supply of those things, at least on the human timescale, so long as there are a lot less people, otherwise, it just does not scale.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Metals don't go anywhere.
Well, actually they do rust ( some of them ).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Food can always be grown
Wrong. Overfarming causes land to become unproductive. The deserts are expanding. The amount of land we have to grow food on, is shrinking
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
fish are always in the sea
Also wrong. Overfishing is destroying food stocks.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It takes a long time to develop, but we are almost theirs.
You just don't get it, do you ? People have been saying this for EVER. It was BS then, and it's BS now. The end is nigh. We got it wrong before, so this time you HAVE to believe us.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.
Look. I'm not going to sit here are go around in circles. I'm not going to try to untie the knots you tied in your head, the only way you have a chance at waking up is if you open your mind a little bit. Think it through. I guess the only way that will ever happen is if it becomes of interest to you, which it is not. I have looked at both sides of the story, I've tried to view all your utopia crap the way you do and I get it. It takes a diverse mindset to come to the correct conclusion, it is a mindset you can never have because you do not have my extensive visualization and empathy skills. I promise you my mind is sharper than yours in those regards. You can't even begin to imagine what I can. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason.
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Look. I'm not going to sit here are go around in circles. I'm not going to try to untie the knots you tied in your head, the only way you have a chance at waking up is if you open your mind a little bit. Think it through. I guess the only way that will ever happen is if it becomes of interest to you, which it is not. I have looked at both sides of the story, I've tried to view all your utopia crap the way you do and I get it. It takes a diverse mindset to come to the correct conclusion, it is a mindset you can never have because you do not have my extensive visualization and empathy skills. I promise you my mind is sharper than yours in those regards. You can't even begin to imagine what I can. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the only way you have a chance at waking up is if you open your mind a little bit.
It's possible that in 20 years time, you will wake up. I realise your complete lack of life experience is the issue here.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
it is a mindset you can never have because you do not have my extensive visualization and empathy skills.
Yes, we proved your empathy recently. People in the third world are just lazy, right ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I promise you my mind is sharper than yours in those regards
I'm sure you think so.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google.
Welcome to my sig.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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Earth 2100[^] was an inspirational piece of work. We are all in this together and we need to implement a stronger bond between societies around the world. We need an international body to regulate climate and resource controls and establish unity among the people of the world. In order to be safe from extremist groups, we need to be chipped from birth with a radio frequency ID chip paired with smart city technology. To preserve nature we need to collectivize within large cities. Our cities must have an intelligent networked grid that will monitor every human movement and identify every person. We need a cashless society where our RFIDs act as our credit cards. Let these stones be our guide.[^]
What we need is to stop giving to charity and stop handing out drugs. If the people who are killing us and trying to change our lifestyle do what nature intended, ie die, because of their practises then that is evolution. By pandering to the liberal left and trying to allow everybody their rights then we are all going to die. Let those who wish to lead a different life do so, but why should we pay for it? A society is a bunch of like-minded individuals, those who do not think as we do cannot be part of our soiciety.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the only way you have a chance at waking up is if you open your mind a little bit.
It's possible that in 20 years time, you will wake up. I realise your complete lack of life experience is the issue here.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
it is a mindset you can never have because you do not have my extensive visualization and empathy skills.
Yes, we proved your empathy recently. People in the third world are just lazy, right ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I promise you my mind is sharper than yours in those regards
I'm sure you think so.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google.
Welcome to my sig.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
Christian Graus wrote:
I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
;P Best quote ever. Actually, the second best, after: "You can verify them to be true by the fact that I have said them." - Ilíon[^]
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Earth 2100[^] was an inspirational piece of work. We are all in this together and we need to implement a stronger bond between societies around the world. We need an international body to regulate climate and resource controls and establish unity among the people of the world. In order to be safe from extremist groups, we need to be chipped from birth with a radio frequency ID chip paired with smart city technology. To preserve nature we need to collectivize within large cities. Our cities must have an intelligent networked grid that will monitor every human movement and identify every person. We need a cashless society where our RFIDs act as our credit cards. Let these stones be our guide.[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We need an international body to regulate climate and resource controls and establish unity among the people of the world.
Its called the UN, and its a joke. Incompetent, innefective, corrupt and self serving. Lies and hype Aids to Global Warming, to a complete inability to act in Bosnia, Ruwanda, Nigeria, Iraq, etc etc etc.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
To preserve nature we need to collectivize within large cities
Man is part of nature. As much a part of nature as any other animal that builds houses and hunts and has the 'right' to live anywhere. Additionally, many of his actions accidentially benefit other species: From burning fossil fuels and putting back in the air CO2 that was once there thus increasing plant growth globally, to providing corridors or wildeness along motorways and trains alowing the movement and prosperity of animals.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Christian Graus wrote:
I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
;P Best quote ever. Actually, the second best, after: "You can verify them to be true by the fact that I have said them." - Ilíon[^]
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
"You can verify them to be true by the fact that I have said them."
Wow - I am sorry I missed that one. I am reading a book on schizophrenia, and CSS honestly has enough of the markers that I think a diagnosis is probable.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp