Four Fallacies of Smart People
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Christian Graus wrote:
BTW, you've never explained what any of this means, or why you attribute these statements to me so often
Its called double-think. It is something you extensively participate in. The reason I don't reply to each of your points is that it is double-think, I am not going to go down the path of flip-flopping logic.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
you lost me here, his argument seem to be logical and well stated, where do you get the double think? it would seem that you spend far too much time double thinking and not understanding the basics, and end up tying yourself in knots, he has asked fairly simple questions yet to seem unable to answer, maybe if you explaned why his questions are complecated and double thought we can revised the question, the problem being at the moment that we all seem to understand his question and could provide an answer, you seemingly cant, is it that the question is too complex? or your ability to understand is either very limited or at odds with our perceptions of reality?
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you lost me here, his argument seem to be logical and well stated, where do you get the double think? it would seem that you spend far too much time double thinking and not understanding the basics, and end up tying yourself in knots, he has asked fairly simple questions yet to seem unable to answer, maybe if you explaned why his questions are complecated and double thought we can revised the question, the problem being at the moment that we all seem to understand his question and could provide an answer, you seemingly cant, is it that the question is too complex? or your ability to understand is either very limited or at odds with our perceptions of reality?
Alex hogarth wrote:
he has asked fairly simple questions yet to seem unable to answer
I said I'm not going to go down the path of flip-flopped logic.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Alex hogarth wrote:
he has asked fairly simple questions yet to seem unable to answer
I said I'm not going to go down the path of flip-flopped logic.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
so you are saying that the logic of his question is beyond you?
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so you are saying that the logic of his question is beyond you?
Alex hogarth wrote:
so you are saying that the logic of his question is beyond you?
No, his logic is faulty. It is incomplete and corrupt. I'm not going to go down that path because he will take it all the way down to weird shit like child molestation. Its ridiculous.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm neither free, liberated, or normal. I've been enslaved by the system.
So, your gun has not helped you then ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I agree, the left right system is nothing but a system to keep us divided so we can be conquered.
I think that is especially true in the US, where not meaningful dialogue between the opposing camps or even understanding of their position, seems to take place.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, that needs to be taken care of. You may be forced to take a series of injections soon for the Swine flu.
There you go again. First of all, no vaccine will do anything more than protect from swine flu. Second, I don't see how anyone can be forced to take them. Third, what if we did ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
First of all, no vaccine will do anything more than protect from swine flu.
You are one of the most naive persons I know. Do you really believe that the chemicals and virus material they inject directly into your bloodstream is completely safe? Did you know that the pharmaceutical companies manufacturing the swine flu vaccines have been given legal immunity for any complications or deaths caused by the liquid they will be injecting into billions? The manufacture of the new vaccine has been rushed, and it may be mandatory to take a series of injections. That includes your children! They are going to tweak the immune systems of billions of people worldwide, and make it mandatory. Does that not raise a red flag? If it does not, then you are incredibly stupid.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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In the US children have to take shots or they can't go to school. It's the law.
I am not surprised. Here they use a carrot, if you don't immunise, then you don't get the welfare payments you otherwise get for breeding.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
First of all, no vaccine will do anything more than protect from swine flu.
You are one of the most naive persons I know. Do you really believe that the chemicals and virus material they inject directly into your bloodstream is completely safe? Did you know that the pharmaceutical companies manufacturing the swine flu vaccines have been given legal immunity for any complications or deaths caused by the liquid they will be injecting into billions? The manufacture of the new vaccine has been rushed, and it may be mandatory to take a series of injections. That includes your children! They are going to tweak the immune systems of billions of people worldwide, and make it mandatory. Does that not raise a red flag? If it does not, then you are incredibly stupid.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are one of the most naive persons I know
That's really funny.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Do you really believe that the chemicals and virus material they inject directly into your bloodstream is completely safe?
No, there is a small chance of side effects. However, the overall affect is positive, did you know that some diseases that had been eradicated for some time, are starting to come back in areas where morons refuse to vaccinate themselves and their children ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Did you know that the pharmaceutical companies manufacturing the swine flu vaccines have been given legal immunity for any complications or deaths caused by the liquid they will be injecting into billions?
That does not surprise me. I suspect in this specific case, they've been told to hurry and insisted on such immunity. Which is not great, but it doesn't mean that the odds of harm are terribly great, only that they exist.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The manufacture of the new vaccine has been rushed, and it may be mandatory to take a series of injections. That includes your children!
What I love is that you and your conspiracy friends always highlight the worst possible scenario and speak as if it is inevitable. No-one is talking about mandatory shots that I know of, and just because there is a risk, does not mean it is significant.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They are going to tweak the immune systems of billions of people worldwide, and make it mandatory
Yes, they are going to introduce pathogens in an altered form, to induce our bodies to create immunity. That's how shots work. Do you understand how they work ? Do you understand why they work, or how your body works in this regard ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Does that not raise a red flag? If it does not, then you are incredibly stupid.
The issue is not that I assume that everything the government does is benign or safe, it's that you automatically assume it is sinister, ill concieved and evil.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bu
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Christian Graus wrote:
BTW, you've never explained what any of this means, or why you attribute these statements to me so often
Its called double-think. It is something you extensively participate in. The reason I don't reply to each of your points is that it is double-think, I am not going to go down the path of flip-flopping logic.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its called double-think. It is something you extensively participate in
And yet, when I've broken this down and asked you to show how you can attribute any of it to me, you have failed. Just like you failed yesterday to even try to answer my responses to your other accusations towards me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The reason I don't reply to each of your points is that it is double-think, I am not going to go down the path of flip-flopping logic.
It's a sign of mental illness that you show an inability to answer me, and yet you can justify yourself with this sort of double talk. Why won't you 'go down the path', is it because you're not smart enough, or because you know that the end of the path is that you'll be proven wrong ( even more than usual ) ? I mean, it can't be that you don't have time or can't be bothered, you otherwise post here non stop, and it's not like you have a job to go to or anything.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Alex hogarth wrote:
so you are saying that the logic of his question is beyond you?
No, his logic is faulty. It is incomplete and corrupt. I'm not going to go down that path because he will take it all the way down to weird shit like child molestation. Its ridiculous.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, his logic is faulty. It is incomplete and corrupt.
And yet, you can't prove it, or even try.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm not going to go down that path because he will take it all the way down to weird sh*t like child molestation. Its ridiculous.
Your problem is that you're not smart enough to understand what I am saying. I used child molestation as an example of the fact that every free society still has rules and restrictions. No-one is free to do whatever they want, because society still acts to protect it's weakest members ( even in the US, sometimes ), and to enforce standards. I used this example precisely because I had said much already about why my not having a gun does not restrict my freedom, and you consistently changed the subject instead of answering the points I raised, as I raised them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Rising above is a code word for ignoring my thought out reponses and responding with phrases you learned from you tube videos ? No, I have answered you and you have been incapable of meaningful reply. That is all.
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Christian Graus wrote:
You can't buy freedom, if you are truly enslaved. But, not having money, is it's own slavery. Not having a gun, is not a form of slavery. My only point was that I am more free than you, because I am not held back by poverty, while owning a gun does not give you any freedom whatsoever.
You are lost man, you are all tied up in knots. I kind of feel sorry for you. It does take an expanded mind to grasp large concepts about life. You are stuck in your programmed little world. You are like an ant who cant see life outside the colony and its rules and predetermined set of function. With that said, your mind is owned and locked up by your government.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are lost man, you are all tied up in knots. I kind of feel sorry for you. It does take an expanded mind to grasp large concepts about life. You are stuck in your programmed little world. You are like an ant who cant see life outside the colony and its rules and predetermined set of function. With that said, your mind is owned and locked up by your government.
And once again, you pout this utter crap, which is designed to make you feel superior despite your failings in life ( which is really what most conspiracy theories are about ), instead of answering me. I am not lost, or tied in knots. I am living the life I choose to live, without restriction of any kind. I am free. You have no answer to that, so you speak crap instead.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its called double-think. It is something you extensively participate in
And yet, when I've broken this down and asked you to show how you can attribute any of it to me, you have failed. Just like you failed yesterday to even try to answer my responses to your other accusations towards me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The reason I don't reply to each of your points is that it is double-think, I am not going to go down the path of flip-flopping logic.
It's a sign of mental illness that you show an inability to answer me, and yet you can justify yourself with this sort of double talk. Why won't you 'go down the path', is it because you're not smart enough, or because you know that the end of the path is that you'll be proven wrong ( even more than usual ) ? I mean, it can't be that you don't have time or can't be bothered, you otherwise post here non stop, and it's not like you have a job to go to or anything.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
It's a sign of mental illness that you show an inability to answer me
:laugh: :laugh: ! I can boil it down to you naivety, lack of expanded thought, and lack of empathy. The four fallacies of "smart" people fit you well.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are lost man, you are all tied up in knots. I kind of feel sorry for you. It does take an expanded mind to grasp large concepts about life. You are stuck in your programmed little world. You are like an ant who cant see life outside the colony and its rules and predetermined set of function. With that said, your mind is owned and locked up by your government.
And once again, you pout this utter crap, which is designed to make you feel superior despite your failings in life ( which is really what most conspiracy theories are about ), instead of answering me. I am not lost, or tied in knots. I am living the life I choose to live, without restriction of any kind. I am free. You have no answer to that, so you speak crap instead.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Look man, your country is being taken over and will become subservient to a global government. You are going to have carbon taxes and carbon cops inspecting homes and businesses. Your economy is going down the shitter, bankers and power brokers are getting mega rich by robbing the and deceiving the public and all you can say is "I'm a rich bastard! Fuck you!@ I got my money so nothing else matters scum!" http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25164.html[^]
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, his logic is faulty. It is incomplete and corrupt.
And yet, you can't prove it, or even try.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm not going to go down that path because he will take it all the way down to weird sh*t like child molestation. Its ridiculous.
Your problem is that you're not smart enough to understand what I am saying. I used child molestation as an example of the fact that every free society still has rules and restrictions. No-one is free to do whatever they want, because society still acts to protect it's weakest members ( even in the US, sometimes ), and to enforce standards. I used this example precisely because I had said much already about why my not having a gun does not restrict my freedom, and you consistently changed the subject instead of answering the points I raised, as I raised them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Child molestation is wrong no matter what society you live in. People who own guns are not criminals, they are not out to hurt people like a child molester is. Is that so fucking hard to understand? I can't stand you. I will type up something elaborate and thorough (later) that will cover how a society should be and how a society can be taken over used to murder while killing itself, like what Hitler did with Germany. It will be extensive.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's a sign of mental illness that you show an inability to answer me
:laugh: :laugh: ! I can boil it down to you naivety, lack of expanded thought, and lack of empathy. The four fallacies of "smart" people fit you well.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I can boil it down to you naivety, lack of expanded thought, and lack of empathy. The four fallacies of "smart" people fit you well.
And once again, you are incapable of answering me.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are one of the most naive persons I know
That's really funny.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Do you really believe that the chemicals and virus material they inject directly into your bloodstream is completely safe?
No, there is a small chance of side effects. However, the overall affect is positive, did you know that some diseases that had been eradicated for some time, are starting to come back in areas where morons refuse to vaccinate themselves and their children ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Did you know that the pharmaceutical companies manufacturing the swine flu vaccines have been given legal immunity for any complications or deaths caused by the liquid they will be injecting into billions?
That does not surprise me. I suspect in this specific case, they've been told to hurry and insisted on such immunity. Which is not great, but it doesn't mean that the odds of harm are terribly great, only that they exist.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The manufacture of the new vaccine has been rushed, and it may be mandatory to take a series of injections. That includes your children!
What I love is that you and your conspiracy friends always highlight the worst possible scenario and speak as if it is inevitable. No-one is talking about mandatory shots that I know of, and just because there is a risk, does not mean it is significant.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They are going to tweak the immune systems of billions of people worldwide, and make it mandatory
Yes, they are going to introduce pathogens in an altered form, to induce our bodies to create immunity. That's how shots work. Do you understand how they work ? Do you understand why they work, or how your body works in this regard ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Does that not raise a red flag? If it does not, then you are incredibly stupid.
The issue is not that I assume that everything the government does is benign or safe, it's that you automatically assume it is sinister, ill concieved and evil.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bu
Lets say that only 1 billion people take the vaccine, I'm sure there will be more as there are over 6 billion people on the world, more than 1 billion in china, but for simplicity we will just say 1 billion. Now if there is a %0.1 chance that the injections will cause damage to the immune system or other serious health problems, that is 1,000,000 people ONE MILLION, you can tweak the numbers however you like, its still alot. Lets say there with the rushed procedures a batch of vaccines were contaminated, say %10. that is 100,000,000 ONE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE! That is not something to sneeze at asshole. Naive Jackass.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I can boil it down to you naivety, lack of expanded thought, and lack of empathy. The four fallacies of "smart" people fit you well.
And once again, you are incapable of answering me.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Its because you don't want to open your mind. You are too naive and trusting. You could be easily taken advantage of.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Child molestation is wrong no matter what society you live in. People who own guns are not criminals, they are not out to hurt people like a child molester is. Is that so fucking hard to understand? I can't stand you. I will type up something elaborate and thorough (later) that will cover how a society should be and how a society can be taken over used to murder while killing itself, like what Hitler did with Germany. It will be extensive.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Child molestation is wrong no matter what society you live in
Not true, but I guess it's close enough, nowadays.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People who own guns are not criminals, they are not out to hurt people like a child molester is
That is probably mostly true. I wasn't making any claim to the contrary, I was just proving in yet another way, that not owning a gun, does not prove I am not free, nor does it change that we're all tied to the standards of our communities.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Is that so f***ing hard to understand? I can't stand you.
Hating me is probably another good defence mechanism for the fact that you cannot make any sort of meaningful response to the things I have to say, or even understand them, it seems.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I will type up something elaborate and thorough (later) that will cover how a society should be and how a society can be taken over used to murder while killing itself, like what Hitler did with Germany. It will be extensive.
OK. I'd prefer you answer the questions I've asked you directly. Lets start with how does having a gun and being poor make you more free than being well off and not having a gun. Or, how does a gun protect you in a society where the person trying to hurt you is also far more likely to have one ? Or, if guns make you so safe, why is the murder rate that much higher in the US ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Look man, your country is being taken over and will become subservient to a global government. You are going to have carbon taxes and carbon cops inspecting homes and businesses. Your economy is going down the shitter, bankers and power brokers are getting mega rich by robbing the and deceiving the public and all you can say is "I'm a rich bastard! Fuck you!@ I got my money so nothing else matters scum!" http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25164.html[^]
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Look man, your country is being taken over and will become subservient to a global government.
This is ignorant BS. You cannot prove it, b/c it is not true.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are going to have carbon taxes and carbon cops inspecting homes and businesses
Carbon taxes, probably. People inspecting homes ? More fantasy.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. Your economy is going down the shitter,
ROTFL - yours is FAR worse.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
bankers and power brokers are getting mega rich by robbing the and deceiving the public
Yeah, so what else is new ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and all you can say is "I'm a rich bastard! f*** you!@ I got my money so nothing else matters scum!"
Funny, I posted at length yesterday, describing my reasons for feeling that I am not someone who trusts in my money, or is arrogant to people who have less of it than me. I give $300+ a month to charity, to benefit poor people around the world. That's probably more than you earn. In other words, I have the freedom to help others, because I work hard and make a decent wage. Again, what freedom does poverty, ignorance and gun ownership provide you ? Be specific. Once you do that, you will hopefully realise that you get no freedom from owning a gun, except the freedom to own one, which is meaningless.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Child molestation is wrong no matter what society you live in
Not true, but I guess it's close enough, nowadays.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People who own guns are not criminals, they are not out to hurt people like a child molester is
That is probably mostly true. I wasn't making any claim to the contrary, I was just proving in yet another way, that not owning a gun, does not prove I am not free, nor does it change that we're all tied to the standards of our communities.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Is that so f***ing hard to understand? I can't stand you.
Hating me is probably another good defence mechanism for the fact that you cannot make any sort of meaningful response to the things I have to say, or even understand them, it seems.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I will type up something elaborate and thorough (later) that will cover how a society should be and how a society can be taken over used to murder while killing itself, like what Hitler did with Germany. It will be extensive.
OK. I'd prefer you answer the questions I've asked you directly. Lets start with how does having a gun and being poor make you more free than being well off and not having a gun. Or, how does a gun protect you in a society where the person trying to hurt you is also far more likely to have one ? Or, if guns make you so safe, why is the murder rate that much higher in the US ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Lets start with how does having a gun and being poor make you more free than being well off and not having a gun.
It doesn't, I thought in Australia guns were illegal.
Christian Graus wrote:
Or, how does a gun protect you in a society where the person trying to hurt you is also far more likely to have one ?
A firearm is an equalizer. You don't even have to be seen to shoot somebody with one. A physically handicapped person can protect himself against a 300 pound coked up mad man.
Christian Graus wrote:
Or, if guns make you so safe, why is the murder rate that much higher in the US ?
That has to do with blacks and their little drug wars, plain and simple.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Lets say that only 1 billion people take the vaccine, I'm sure there will be more as there are over 6 billion people on the world, more than 1 billion in china, but for simplicity we will just say 1 billion. Now if there is a %0.1 chance that the injections will cause damage to the immune system or other serious health problems, that is 1,000,000 people ONE MILLION, you can tweak the numbers however you like, its still alot. Lets say there with the rushed procedures a batch of vaccines were contaminated, say %10. that is 100,000,000 ONE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE! That is not something to sneeze at asshole. Naive Jackass.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Now if there is a %0.1 chance that the injections will cause damage to the immune system or other serious health problems, that is 1,000,000 people ONE MILLION, you can tweak the numbers however you like, its still alot.
you're assuming .1%. I expect it is far, far less. And, the fact is, the side affects are more temporary illness, for most of the people who have them, and again, it's a low percentage. We've been giving vaccinations for a long time, why do you think that is ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Lets say there with the rushed procedures a batch of vaccines were contaminated, say %10. that is 100,000,000 ONE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!
I can do the math, same as you. But, can you tell the difference between doing some math and raving like a lunatic, and reality ? Reality is, if the companies kill 100 million people, the odds of them being immune from a lawsuit are pretty close to zero. The odds are also astronomically against that happening, in any case. For starters, if this DID happen, they would not release the vaccine without some testing, and even if they did, they won't administer one billion vaccines overnight, and they would stop the moment they knew there was a problem.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
That is not something to sneeze at a**hole. Naive Jackass.
You are naive to think that we can administer a billion doses overnight, or that we'd keep doing it while it was killing people. Or for even assuming that the odds of that happening are anything more than miniscule.
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