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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
As you should already know, the right-wing Americans and returning veterans are the terrorists according the the Department of Homeland Security.
This would be an example of where your chain of logic breaks down. Even if this is true, it does not prove that this exercise is designed to lock up people even you can only claim are regarded as 'low level' terrorists.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Why don't you man up to your socialist eugenics statements? You said you believe that forced sterilizations and one child policies similar to China's would be a good idea only if people didn't have the capability to resist it.
Neither of these links prove I said anything of the sort. I did at one point say that the only chance for the human race is a one child policy and outlined how I thought that could work, but said in the same breath that I knew it was unworkable. I have NEVER called for forced sterilisation, or abortion, those are just lies that you tell. I've never even joked about those things.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I don't see how anyone could ever take you seriously anymore since you blatantly deny facts and can't man up to your own statements. Pathetic.
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I don't see how anyone could ever take you seriously anymore since you blatantly deny facts and can't man up to your own statements. Pathetic.
You know, there is no level on which your illiteracy reflects badly on me.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
As you should already know, the right-wing Americans and returning veterans are the terrorists according the the Department of Homeland Security.
This would be an example of where your chain of logic breaks down. Even if this is true, it does not prove that this exercise is designed to lock up people even you can only claim are regarded as 'low level' terrorists.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Why don't you man up to your socialist eugenics statements? You said you believe that forced sterilizations and one child policies similar to China's would be a good idea only if people didn't have the capability to resist it.
Neither of these links prove I said anything of the sort. I did at one point say that the only chance for the human race is a one child policy and outlined how I thought that could work, but said in the same breath that I knew it was unworkable. I have NEVER called for forced sterilisation, or abortion, those are just lies that you tell. I've never even joked about those things.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Remember this a person who avocates the provision of porn to childern, his standard are considerably lower than the norm (as well as his IQ it would seem) in his mind the fact that you apply conditions just does not effect the basic premise, if you said "Id be poor, if i gave away all my money" then he you assume you are poor you are evil and depraved because you can consider other points of view, you must stop this devieant behavour forthwith, free thinking in his world is fine as long as it agrees with his. he has all the traits that he condems in others, this is why you cannot get him to engage, he judges all by his own standard - so that means that your being dishonest, envaisive, involved in slight of hand, doubletalk, misrepresentation and lying purely because that what he would be doing in your shoes
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Remember this a person who avocates the provision of porn to childern, his standard are considerably lower than the norm (as well as his IQ it would seem) in his mind the fact that you apply conditions just does not effect the basic premise, if you said "Id be poor, if i gave away all my money" then he you assume you are poor you are evil and depraved because you can consider other points of view, you must stop this devieant behavour forthwith, free thinking in his world is fine as long as it agrees with his. he has all the traits that he condems in others, this is why you cannot get him to engage, he judges all by his own standard - so that means that your being dishonest, envaisive, involved in slight of hand, doubletalk, misrepresentation and lying purely because that what he would be doing in your shoes
Alex hogarth wrote:
if you said "Id be poor, if i gave away all my money" then he you assume you are poor
I wonder if that works with other statements. "CSS would be gone, if his Internet access was taken away"
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Alex hogarth wrote:
if you said "Id be poor, if i gave away all my money" then he you assume you are poor
I wonder if that works with other statements. "CSS would be gone, if his Internet access was taken away"
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you can but hope
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Alex hogarth wrote:
if you said "Id be poor, if i gave away all my money" then he you assume you are poor
I wonder if that works with other statements. "CSS would be gone, if his Internet access was taken away"
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Computafreak wrote:
"CSS would be gone, if his Internet access was taken away"
I can ALWAYS find an internet connection no matter what situation I'm in.
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Computafreak wrote:
"CSS would be gone, if his Internet access was taken away"
I can ALWAYS find an internet connection no matter what situation I'm in.
you a$$ with both hands would seem to a more difficult task
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Computafreak wrote:
"CSS would be gone, if his Internet access was taken away"
I can ALWAYS find an internet connection no matter what situation I'm in.
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Okay, I'll rephrase that: "CSS would be gone, if somebody enforced quality controls on the Internet"
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Computafreak wrote:
"CSS would be gone, if somebody enforced quality controls on the Internet"
If you are into that kind of thing, China is the place for you.
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Computafreak wrote:
"CSS would be gone, if somebody enforced quality controls on the Internet"
If you are into that kind of thing, China is the place for you.
Nope; I dislike censorship. But that doesn't make it any easier to stop myself thinking "Why can't this annoying little pest crawl back under the stone he came from?" every time I come across one of your posts
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Nope; I dislike censorship. But that doesn't make it any easier to stop myself thinking "Why can't this annoying little pest crawl back under the stone he came from?" every time I come across one of your posts
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Computafreak wrote:
Nope; I dislike censorship. But that doesn't make it any easier to stop myself thinking "Why can't this annoying little pest crawl back under the stone he came from?" every time I come across one of your posts
If you like to have your privacy invaded by being watched and tracked by the government every time you go outside or communicate electronically, be required to take injections that screw around with your immune system and biochemistry, be controlled and lied to by your government, have over half of your hard earned wealth taken, and have your freedom of speech and every other right taken from you, all while pretending like its a big joke then I can see why you would say that.
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Computafreak wrote:
Nope; I dislike censorship. But that doesn't make it any easier to stop myself thinking "Why can't this annoying little pest crawl back under the stone he came from?" every time I come across one of your posts
If you like to have your privacy invaded by being watched and tracked by the government every time you go outside or communicate electronically, be required to take injections that screw around with your immune system and biochemistry, be controlled and lied to by your government, have over half of your hard earned wealth taken, and have your freedom of speech and every other right taken from you, all while pretending like its a big joke then I can see why you would say that.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
If you like to have your privacy invaded by being watched and tracked by the government every time you go outside
It's technically impossible for this to happen on a personal level. Cameras in public places should only concern people planning on breaking laws
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
be required to take injections that screw around with your immune system
I can't help your ignorance. Vaccinations build your immune system. Morons like you are causing diseases like smallpox to reappear.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
be controlled and lied to by your government
What government in history has NOT lied to it's people ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
have over half of your hard earned wealth taken
Well, I don't like that, either, but taxes are a reality of society, without them, we'd have no society at all, because we'd have no social services, like police and firemen.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and have your freedom of speech and every other right taken from you
Freedom of speech is not a guarentee, it doesn't mean you can say anything you like, anywhere you like.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
If you like to have your privacy invaded by being watched and tracked by the government every time you go outside
It's technically impossible for this to happen on a personal level. Cameras in public places should only concern people planning on breaking laws
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
be required to take injections that screw around with your immune system
I can't help your ignorance. Vaccinations build your immune system. Morons like you are causing diseases like smallpox to reappear.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
be controlled and lied to by your government
What government in history has NOT lied to it's people ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
have over half of your hard earned wealth taken
Well, I don't like that, either, but taxes are a reality of society, without them, we'd have no society at all, because we'd have no social services, like police and firemen.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and have your freedom of speech and every other right taken from you
Freedom of speech is not a guarentee, it doesn't mean you can say anything you like, anywhere you like.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
It's technically impossible for this to happen on a personal level.
Oh and how is that? Especially with biometrics and modern high-resolution cameras and processing power.
Christian Graus wrote:
I can't help your ignorance. Vaccinations build your immune system. Morons like you are causing diseases like smallpox to reappear.
People who don't get injections are moronic bio-criminals. Got it. How can a disease reappear if it was eradicated?
Christian Graus wrote:
What government in history has NOT lied to it's people ?
In simple terms, "Nothing to see here, move along, graze your grass."
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, I don't like that, either, but taxes are a reality of society, without them, we'd have no society at all, because we'd have no social services, like police and firemen.
Ever think about the value you are getting for your money? As a simple example, why pay 1000 bucks for a paperclip?
Christian Graus wrote:
Freedom of speech is not a guarentee, it doesn't mean you can say anything you like, anywhere you like.
Freedom of speech is a privilege?
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's technically impossible for this to happen on a personal level.
Oh and how is that? Especially with biometrics and modern high-resolution cameras and processing power.
Christian Graus wrote:
I can't help your ignorance. Vaccinations build your immune system. Morons like you are causing diseases like smallpox to reappear.
People who don't get injections are moronic bio-criminals. Got it. How can a disease reappear if it was eradicated?
Christian Graus wrote:
What government in history has NOT lied to it's people ?
In simple terms, "Nothing to see here, move along, graze your grass."
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, I don't like that, either, but taxes are a reality of society, without them, we'd have no society at all, because we'd have no social services, like police and firemen.
Ever think about the value you are getting for your money? As a simple example, why pay 1000 bucks for a paperclip?
Christian Graus wrote:
Freedom of speech is not a guarentee, it doesn't mean you can say anything you like, anywhere you like.
Freedom of speech is a privilege?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Oh and how is that? Especially with biometrics and modern high-resolution cameras and processing power.
Do you have any idea how many people you're claiming are being watched, all the time ? FWIW, I was told this was already happening, in the mid 1980s. Conspiracy nuts have been around for a long time. It wasn't true then, and it's not true now.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People who don't get injections are moronic bio-criminals.
No, just morons.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
How can a disease reappear if it was eradicated?
A lot of diseases that kill humans, live in animals without harming them. They didn't appear from thin air.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
In simple terms, "Nothing to see here, move along, graze your grass."
We should call the government out when it lies to us, sure. But, act surprised ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ever think about the value you are getting for your money?
Well, that's just endemic in the system. Am I happy about it ? Of course not. But, what can I do ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
As a simple example, why pay 1000 bucks for a paperclip?
No-one has ever paid that much for a paper clip.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Freedom of speech is a privilege?
Yes. It's a privilege you earn, by using it well. It should not be curtailed for people who criticise the government, but if, for example, I use it to incite hatred and encourage people to bash gays, or Jews, or kill policemen, then my freedom of speech runs against the freedom other people have to live without being attacked.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Oh and how is that? Especially with biometrics and modern high-resolution cameras and processing power.
Do you have any idea how many people you're claiming are being watched, all the time ? FWIW, I was told this was already happening, in the mid 1980s. Conspiracy nuts have been around for a long time. It wasn't true then, and it's not true now.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People who don't get injections are moronic bio-criminals.
No, just morons.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
How can a disease reappear if it was eradicated?
A lot of diseases that kill humans, live in animals without harming them. They didn't appear from thin air.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
In simple terms, "Nothing to see here, move along, graze your grass."
We should call the government out when it lies to us, sure. But, act surprised ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ever think about the value you are getting for your money?
Well, that's just endemic in the system. Am I happy about it ? Of course not. But, what can I do ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
As a simple example, why pay 1000 bucks for a paperclip?
No-one has ever paid that much for a paper clip.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Freedom of speech is a privilege?
Yes. It's a privilege you earn, by using it well. It should not be curtailed for people who criticise the government, but if, for example, I use it to incite hatred and encourage people to bash gays, or Jews, or kill policemen, then my freedom of speech runs against the freedom other people have to live without being attacked.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Do you have any idea how many people you're claiming are being watched, all the time ?
Tens of millions? The entire population of first world countries when it comes to computer screening of emails and phone calls. I know I know, its impossible because computer power doesn't evolve exponentially.
Christian Graus wrote:
No, just morons.
Oh ok, they aren't low-level bio-terrorists yet.
Christian Graus wrote:
A lot of diseases that kill humans, live in animals without harming them. They didn't appear from thin air.
So they aren't "reappearing"?
Christian Graus wrote:
We should call the government out when it lies to us, sure.
We? I do, you call them nutcases.
Christian Graus wrote:
But, what can I do ?
Stop being a lamb. Speak up, organize, and develop unstoppable momentum and mass. You can't though because you will loose your speech privileges; so just shut up and pay up.
Christian Graus wrote:
No-one has ever paid that much for a paper clip.
I never said anyone did, I'm just asking why anyone would when in principle that is what they are doing with their tax dollars, except instead of a paperclip, it is basic infrastructure services.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes. It's a privilege you earn, by using it well.
I knew it. Freedom of speech is only for government approved speech that you have to earn the privilege to speak.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Do you have any idea how many people you're claiming are being watched, all the time ?
Tens of millions? The entire population of first world countries when it comes to computer screening of emails and phone calls. I know I know, its impossible because computer power doesn't evolve exponentially.
Christian Graus wrote:
No, just morons.
Oh ok, they aren't low-level bio-terrorists yet.
Christian Graus wrote:
A lot of diseases that kill humans, live in animals without harming them. They didn't appear from thin air.
So they aren't "reappearing"?
Christian Graus wrote:
We should call the government out when it lies to us, sure.
We? I do, you call them nutcases.
Christian Graus wrote:
But, what can I do ?
Stop being a lamb. Speak up, organize, and develop unstoppable momentum and mass. You can't though because you will loose your speech privileges; so just shut up and pay up.
Christian Graus wrote:
No-one has ever paid that much for a paper clip.
I never said anyone did, I'm just asking why anyone would when in principle that is what they are doing with their tax dollars, except instead of a paperclip, it is basic infrastructure services.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes. It's a privilege you earn, by using it well.
I knew it. Freedom of speech is only for government approved speech that you have to earn the privilege to speak.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The entire population of first world countries when it comes to computer screening of emails and phone calls.
Oh, I have no doubt that our emails are monitored in some sort of bulk fashion. But, I don't think anyone is actually employed to read all my emails.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Oh ok, they aren't low-level bio-terrorists yet.
bio-terrorist is another term you are throwing out there, I've never said it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So they aren't "reappearing"?
In humans they are, yes. I could give a damn if foxes and skunks are sick.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We? I do, you call them nutcases.
Not every claim that the government is lying, is true.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. Speak up, organize, and develop unstoppable momentum and mass.
You have a movement that tries to avoid taxes in the US. What has it done for them ? But, we were talking about controlling how it gets spent. I can organise to insist that they ask me before they spend any of my taxes ? Wake up.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
never said anyone did, I'm just asking why anyone would when in principle that is what they are doing with their tax dollars, except instead of a paperclip, it is basic infrastructure services.
OK, then your statement made no sense.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I knew it. Freedom of speech is only for government approved speech that you have to earn the privilege to speak.
As usual, you ignore what I said, and build a straw man instead. It's for speech that SOCIETY approves, which does not include hate speech, as an example. Personally, I think give neo nazis the light of day so their beliefs can be destroyed in the daylight.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Do you have any idea how many people you're claiming are being watched, all the time ?
Tens of millions? The entire population of first world countries when it comes to computer screening of emails and phone calls. I know I know, its impossible because computer power doesn't evolve exponentially.
Christian Graus wrote:
No, just morons.
Oh ok, they aren't low-level bio-terrorists yet.
Christian Graus wrote:
A lot of diseases that kill humans, live in animals without harming them. They didn't appear from thin air.
So they aren't "reappearing"?
Christian Graus wrote:
We should call the government out when it lies to us, sure.
We? I do, you call them nutcases.
Christian Graus wrote:
But, what can I do ?
Stop being a lamb. Speak up, organize, and develop unstoppable momentum and mass. You can't though because you will loose your speech privileges; so just shut up and pay up.
Christian Graus wrote:
No-one has ever paid that much for a paper clip.
I never said anyone did, I'm just asking why anyone would when in principle that is what they are doing with their tax dollars, except instead of a paperclip, it is basic infrastructure services.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes. It's a privilege you earn, by using it well.
I knew it. Freedom of speech is only for government approved speech that you have to earn the privilege to speak.
Also - every time you read this thread, you can see the thread I started about your retarded views on homosexuality. I note you're scared to even try to defend those beliefs. I am not surprised.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The entire population of first world countries when it comes to computer screening of emails and phone calls.
Oh, I have no doubt that our emails are monitored in some sort of bulk fashion. But, I don't think anyone is actually employed to read all my emails.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Oh ok, they aren't low-level bio-terrorists yet.
bio-terrorist is another term you are throwing out there, I've never said it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So they aren't "reappearing"?
In humans they are, yes. I could give a damn if foxes and skunks are sick.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We? I do, you call them nutcases.
Not every claim that the government is lying, is true.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. Speak up, organize, and develop unstoppable momentum and mass.
You have a movement that tries to avoid taxes in the US. What has it done for them ? But, we were talking about controlling how it gets spent. I can organise to insist that they ask me before they spend any of my taxes ? Wake up.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
never said anyone did, I'm just asking why anyone would when in principle that is what they are doing with their tax dollars, except instead of a paperclip, it is basic infrastructure services.
OK, then your statement made no sense.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I knew it. Freedom of speech is only for government approved speech that you have to earn the privilege to speak.
As usual, you ignore what I said, and build a straw man instead. It's for speech that SOCIETY approves, which does not include hate speech, as an example. Personally, I think give neo nazis the light of day so their beliefs can be destroyed in the daylight.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
You have a movement that tries to avoid taxes in the US.
When your and your children's and your grandchildren's tax money is going directly the the banks and insurance companies in the form of a bailout, your godamn right they try to avoid taxes! Its 24 trillion dollars of pure theft! Don't you tell me to wake up.
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Christian Graus wrote:
You have a movement that tries to avoid taxes in the US.
When your and your children's and your grandchildren's tax money is going directly the the banks and insurance companies in the form of a bailout, your godamn right they try to avoid taxes! Its 24 trillion dollars of pure theft! Don't you tell me to wake up.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
When your and your children's and your grandchildren's tax money is going directly the the banks and insurance companies in the form of a bailout, your godamn right they try to avoid taxes! Its 24 trillion dollars of pure theft!
And yet, they achieved nothing. The bailout happened, and they either still pay tax, or are in jail. That's my point. You can't stop taxes. I agree that the bailout was a crime, and probably will cripple the US economy as China becomes the new world power. But, the US pretty much earned that fate IMO.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Computafreak wrote:
Nope; I dislike censorship. But that doesn't make it any easier to stop myself thinking "Why can't this annoying little pest crawl back under the stone he came from?" every time I come across one of your posts
If you like to have your privacy invaded by being watched and tracked by the government every time you go outside or communicate electronically, be required to take injections that screw around with your immune system and biochemistry, be controlled and lied to by your government, have over half of your hard earned wealth taken, and have your freedom of speech and every other right taken from you, all while pretending like its a big joke then I can see why you would say that.
Is that the best you can do? You assume that just because I don't find your ridiculous claims of a New World Order funny or believable, I want Golden Shield everywhere? You're wrong.
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