UK Government To Install Surveillance Cameras In Private Homes (RF-Chippy) [modified]
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Alex hogarth wrote:
what would your answer be?
Well first off the UK government broadly defines anti-social behavior to include just about anything they dictate as inappropriate. Second, the authorities can come in and inspect the home of anyone who is ratted out, but this is normal for the UK. Even back in the 1700s King George III enforced the Stamp Act on the American colonies which required every piece of paper, pamphlet, poster, ANY PIECE OF PAPER REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS USED FOR, be stamped with the king's stamp. How did they enforce this? The king gave the right to authorities to write their own search warrants to inspect people's homes, which is what they are doing now but all they need is someone's word that a family is anti-social. If someone is truly abusive or neglecting his or her children, then they should go to jail for a while and the children can live with other family or a willing adopter family or a temporary intervention family.
Alex hogarth wrote:
or are you opposed to this as it would be difficult to give the kids porn
I never advocated giving kids porn. I said I was against state sex-ed because they do show inappropriate material to young kids. My little brother when he was 10 or 11 told me that the school was showing a video of a man ejaculating. I don't think that is necessary for such a young mind. I'd like you to quote me saying I advocate giving porn to kids. You can't because I didn't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I said I was against state sex-ed because they do show inappropriate material to young kids
And I called you out on how ignorant this statement is, and you refused to respond. I asked you several times to discuss it, and you refused. You're an idiot.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
My little brother when he was 10 or 11 told me that the school was showing a video of a man ejaculating.
Assuming this is true, does that prove that that's what all sex education programs do ? And, given that he's your brother, why would anyone assume he's truthful ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'd like you to quote me saying I advocate giving porn to kids. You can't because I didn't.
That doesn't stop you from claiming that I support child abuse, etc.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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go polish your gun it will relieve stress you seem to get upset when confronted by your own behaviour, I have applied the exact criteria to you as you applied to others and yet I am a troll? but surely that would mean that you are not only a troll but a self confessed one! I have a nice job, a loving wife, kids, house, car, bike and most of the toys I require, Iam reasonably well read, I have the ability to make my own mind up about the things I read, I rarely take any Internet source as being correct and will allways cross reference before making up my mind and most of all I dont think everyone is out to get me. What you seem to be looking for is some form of communism, or perhaps anachy and I wish you well because i would hate to live in either oh and i do hope that ypu bump into a like minded person (but hopefully he will have a bigger gun and you will cease to be a problem)
I like you :-)
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Quite frankly no matter how you look at it, its disgusting. You can quibble about this and that, but its still fucked up. You people will tolerate anything as long as it is certified by the Home Office. :laugh:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Quite frankly no matter how you look at it, its disgusting
And yet, you have no better suggestions for how to stop a child from coming to harm.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Just because you're paranoid (and CSS) doesn't mean there isn't cause for concern.
To be brutally honest, if you have kids and expect me to pay for it, then you've given up a lot of your rights, especially if you go on to prove yourself an unfit parent. I think cameras in homes is hideous, but it also appears to be a lie, so, when it comes to community services monitoring retards because they breed and show no responsibility, then I think that's probably inevitable and unavoidable.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Quite frankly no matter how you look at it, its disgusting
And yet, you have no better suggestions for how to stop a child from coming to harm.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian, you may well find this interesting, but I doubt CSS would. Finished tonight on BBCtv was a 3 part documentary entitled "Truth About Crime". Over a period of time, the BBC recorded a crime audit in the University city of Oxford. http://www.bbc.co.uk/truthaboutcrime/index.shtml[^] Some of the video/audio might not be permitted to be seen by yourself (non UK destination). It makes me ashamed to be a human being seeing some of the obnoxious activities people get up to. And people from other countries look upon Britain with some degree of disbelief. People howsoever young or old have a total disregard for their neighbours, for the emergency services and so on. Who in their right frame of mind chooses to attack a family (and their house and other property) just because a teenage child of that family suffers some mental illness. Or thugs - usually teenage kids but not exclusively so - choose to attack emergency service vehicles and their personnel just for doing the job what we require of them - putting out fires etc that was probably started by these not so innocent hooligans. If people were to behave there would be no need for draconian measures of the kind CSS dislikes, and it would be cheaper on the public purse and this saving would be matched by a reduction in local and national taxation.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Quite frankly no matter how you look at it, its disgusting
And yet, you have no better suggestions for how to stop a child from coming to harm.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Do you advocate putting cameras into people's homes to enforce behavioral contracts?
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Do you advocate putting cameras into people's homes to enforce behavioral contracts?
ANY use of official cameras in a functioning home environment violates so many principles, and pre-existing laws, and must be resisted. Yet for the public good and for commercial security, we are happy to have CCTV located in our town centres and high streets. If ASBO's and the like don't work, then, for our most persistent child offenders, there are Local Authority Secure Accommodation and Juvenile Detention Centres. (children's prisons if you want another name for them) But even there, personal privacy cannot be violated by the installation of cameras.
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Christian, you may well find this interesting, but I doubt CSS would. Finished tonight on BBCtv was a 3 part documentary entitled "Truth About Crime". Over a period of time, the BBC recorded a crime audit in the University city of Oxford. http://www.bbc.co.uk/truthaboutcrime/index.shtml[^] Some of the video/audio might not be permitted to be seen by yourself (non UK destination). It makes me ashamed to be a human being seeing some of the obnoxious activities people get up to. And people from other countries look upon Britain with some degree of disbelief. People howsoever young or old have a total disregard for their neighbours, for the emergency services and so on. Who in their right frame of mind chooses to attack a family (and their house and other property) just because a teenage child of that family suffers some mental illness. Or thugs - usually teenage kids but not exclusively so - choose to attack emergency service vehicles and their personnel just for doing the job what we require of them - putting out fires etc that was probably started by these not so innocent hooligans. If people were to behave there would be no need for draconian measures of the kind CSS dislikes, and it would be cheaper on the public purse and this saving would be matched by a reduction in local and national taxation.
There are actually reality shows that are based on how badly some Britons act while abroad, and also at home. That's what CSS does not get - if this is happening at all, it's in response to a problem. He seems to think that people will behave if just left alone. Most probably will. It's the rest that require some form of intervention. It's sad - how do people become adults in body, without learning a basic sense of responsibility or pride in themselves and their environment ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Do you advocate putting cameras into people's homes to enforce behavioral contracts?
Your failure to respond to defend your ignorant comments on sex education and homosexuality, makes you an absolute gutless pussy, and undermines any credibility you might hope to have here.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.