Media synchronicity and cynical manipulation by environmentalism. [moved]
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So both the BBC and Sky news channels come out with exactly the same story, and, bizarely, run it at exactly the same time. The story is about food sustainability and how we all "take our food for granted" and that in the future we will all have to cut back. Heres the BBC link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/andrew_marr_show/8192100.stm[^] and Sky link: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Food-Assessment-Hilary-Benn-Warning-As-Says-We-Need-To-Grown-Our-Own-Food/Article/200908215357408?f=rss[^] (Ammusingly, the govt is considering banning 'buy one get one free' offers in order to reduce waste. Dear oh fucking christ. This really is where socialism tends towards utter loonacy) Apart froom this being yet another blanket blast from the enviros hitting all the media channels with exactly the same story, showing how uncritical the media is, especiallty when it comes to environmental scare stories, but also how environmantalists stive to continuously maintain the fear level in the public mind. Heres a few snippets of idiocy form the said envirnmental minister. Clearly someone of limited mental stature: "Last year the world had a wake-up call with the sudden oil and food price rises," he said. Yes, the prices went up because of speculation over the use of food as fuel. A speculation driven by environmentalists constant request for sustainable fuel. Keep burining coal annd oil and there's no wake up call. "While we know the price of our food, the full environmental costs and the costs to our health are significant and hidden." How does he know they are significant if they are hidden? "We need a radical re-think of how we produce and consume our food." Yes, we deffinitely need to consume our food more in the form of a curry! Clearly more verbal idiocy. "Globally we need to cut emissions and adapt to the changing climate that will alter what we can grow and where we can grow it." Bingo! This expains everything.
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So both the BBC and Sky news channels come out with exactly the same story, and, bizarely, run it at exactly the same time. The story is about food sustainability and how we all "take our food for granted" and that in the future we will all have to cut back. Heres the BBC link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/andrew_marr_show/8192100.stm[^] and Sky link: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Food-Assessment-Hilary-Benn-Warning-As-Says-We-Need-To-Grown-Our-Own-Food/Article/200908215357408?f=rss[^] (Ammusingly, the govt is considering banning 'buy one get one free' offers in order to reduce waste. Dear oh fucking christ. This really is where socialism tends towards utter loonacy) Apart froom this being yet another blanket blast from the enviros hitting all the media channels with exactly the same story, showing how uncritical the media is, especiallty when it comes to environmental scare stories, but also how environmantalists stive to continuously maintain the fear level in the public mind. Heres a few snippets of idiocy form the said envirnmental minister. Clearly someone of limited mental stature: "Last year the world had a wake-up call with the sudden oil and food price rises," he said. Yes, the prices went up because of speculation over the use of food as fuel. A speculation driven by environmentalists constant request for sustainable fuel. Keep burining coal annd oil and there's no wake up call. "While we know the price of our food, the full environmental costs and the costs to our health are significant and hidden." How does he know they are significant if they are hidden? "We need a radical re-think of how we produce and consume our food." Yes, we deffinitely need to consume our food more in the form of a curry! Clearly more verbal idiocy. "Globally we need to cut emissions and adapt to the changing climate that will alter what we can grow and where we can grow it." Bingo! This expains everything.
Funny how no-one is running with the real problem of food security, namely TOO MANY PEOPLE! Britainwould be almost completely self sufficient if it could lose 10 Million Mouths. Easily done, Get rid of the Welfare state. Stop Immigration. Hand out condoms to the denizens of Sink Estates. This would be good for Britain and good for the world. We need a world wide reduction in population of about 2 Billion. That would make water and food sustainable, and eke out the reducing resources for a lot longer. Water will be the next War. India is in trouble, Egypt says any attempt to dam either Lake Victoria or The Nile would be an act of War and Mexico is complaining about plans the US have for taking more water from the Rio Grand.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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So both the BBC and Sky news channels come out with exactly the same story, and, bizarely, run it at exactly the same time. The story is about food sustainability and how we all "take our food for granted" and that in the future we will all have to cut back. Heres the BBC link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/andrew_marr_show/8192100.stm[^] and Sky link: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Food-Assessment-Hilary-Benn-Warning-As-Says-We-Need-To-Grown-Our-Own-Food/Article/200908215357408?f=rss[^] (Ammusingly, the govt is considering banning 'buy one get one free' offers in order to reduce waste. Dear oh fucking christ. This really is where socialism tends towards utter loonacy) Apart froom this being yet another blanket blast from the enviros hitting all the media channels with exactly the same story, showing how uncritical the media is, especiallty when it comes to environmental scare stories, but also how environmantalists stive to continuously maintain the fear level in the public mind. Heres a few snippets of idiocy form the said envirnmental minister. Clearly someone of limited mental stature: "Last year the world had a wake-up call with the sudden oil and food price rises," he said. Yes, the prices went up because of speculation over the use of food as fuel. A speculation driven by environmentalists constant request for sustainable fuel. Keep burining coal annd oil and there's no wake up call. "While we know the price of our food, the full environmental costs and the costs to our health are significant and hidden." How does he know they are significant if they are hidden? "We need a radical re-think of how we produce and consume our food." Yes, we deffinitely need to consume our food more in the form of a curry! Clearly more verbal idiocy. "Globally we need to cut emissions and adapt to the changing climate that will alter what we can grow and where we can grow it." Bingo! This expains everything.
Yes, plants like CO2. The more the better. Plants also happen to love Nitrate NO3 but in huge quantities, in fact they die without it. But that is problematic to other lifeforms including blue baby syndrome in humans. To produce evermore foodstuffs to feed a hungry world requires better understanding and control of the environment. It is almost impossible to restrict the flow from farmland of excess nitrates into the groundwater. The more CO2 for plants the better. The more NO3 for plants the better for plants. The more food can be grown. The more NO3 is bad news for babies, pregnant women and fish [^]. That is a huge problem that needs to be solved.
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Yes, plants like CO2. The more the better. Plants also happen to love Nitrate NO3 but in huge quantities, in fact they die without it. But that is problematic to other lifeforms including blue baby syndrome in humans. To produce evermore foodstuffs to feed a hungry world requires better understanding and control of the environment. It is almost impossible to restrict the flow from farmland of excess nitrates into the groundwater. The more CO2 for plants the better. The more NO3 for plants the better for plants. The more food can be grown. The more NO3 is bad news for babies, pregnant women and fish [^]. That is a huge problem that needs to be solved.
Fewer people.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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Fewer people.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
Dalek Dave wrote:
Fewer people.
They've tried several experiments like that in the past: Controversial experiment #1[^] Controversial experiment #2[^] Controversial experiment #3[^] A whole lot of other controversial experiments[^] That didn't go down too well.
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Funny how no-one is running with the real problem of food security, namely TOO MANY PEOPLE! Britainwould be almost completely self sufficient if it could lose 10 Million Mouths. Easily done, Get rid of the Welfare state. Stop Immigration. Hand out condoms to the denizens of Sink Estates. This would be good for Britain and good for the world. We need a world wide reduction in population of about 2 Billion. That would make water and food sustainable, and eke out the reducing resources for a lot longer. Water will be the next War. India is in trouble, Egypt says any attempt to dam either Lake Victoria or The Nile would be an act of War and Mexico is complaining about plans the US have for taking more water from the Rio Grand.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
You're singing from the same Hymn Book as myself. The one big factor would be reduce the worlds population, but nobody dare mention the fact - scary.
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You're singing from the same Hymn Book as myself. The one big factor would be reduce the worlds population, but nobody dare mention the fact - scary.
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I don't advocate a mass slaughter, but controlled breeding. For example the west must shut it's doors, and will only trade with countries that have a provable population contol. End all foreign aid. Sterlisation for the Dim. Britain is expected to be the most populous state in the EU within 10 years. It will have 70 million. The natives have a slowly falling population, it is immigrants and their fecund ways that will swell the population. I would get rid of the welfare state and say if you want a child, you pay for the child. If people knew the state was not going to pay for them to breed, they would slow it a bit. Also I would remove Artificial Insemination from the NHS, babies are a priveledge, not a right. This is a sensible course, but would be abhored by the liberal left who would scream Nazi at me, but that will do no good when the world is up to it's ears in a rising tide of famine, disease and poverty.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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You're singing from the same Hymn Book as myself. The one big factor would be reduce the worlds population, but nobody dare mention the fact - scary.
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Norm .net wrote:
The one big factor would be reduce the worlds population, but nobody dare mention the fact - scary.
Lots of people have. One being John P Holdren (Obama's science and tech adviser). He co-authored a book called Ecoscience: saying that we need to add sterilizers to the the water and staple foods, enforce mandatory abortions of people who have more than one child, and raise all children in government dormitories because families aren't effective at raising children anymore. He said we need to start spraying the atmosphere with metals and chemicals to cool the earth. He is insane. It is a well known fact that the globalists in power want to reduce the world's population by a significant number, however, anyone who believes that is a good idea doesn't comprehend the hellish life we all face if we allow a bunch of psychopaths to cull humans. I don't think we have too many people, but if we ever reach a point were we can't sustain ourselves, well I will be growing my own food while I watch all the city yuppies run around in circles. It isn't that hard to grow your own food and pull water from a well.
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Norm .net wrote:
The one big factor would be reduce the worlds population, but nobody dare mention the fact - scary.
Lots of people have. One being John P Holdren (Obama's science and tech adviser). He co-authored a book called Ecoscience: saying that we need to add sterilizers to the the water and staple foods, enforce mandatory abortions of people who have more than one child, and raise all children in government dormitories because families aren't effective at raising children anymore. He said we need to start spraying the atmosphere with metals and chemicals to cool the earth. He is insane. It is a well known fact that the globalists in power want to reduce the world's population by a significant number, however, anyone who believes that is a good idea doesn't comprehend the hellish life we all face if we allow a bunch of psychopaths to cull humans. I don't think we have too many people, but if we ever reach a point were we can't sustain ourselves, well I will be growing my own food while I watch all the city yuppies run around in circles. It isn't that hard to grow your own food and pull water from a well.
Sounds good to me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It isn't that hard to grow your own food and pull water from a well.
You need to go get an education, India's water table has gone from 6 foot to 63 foot in 35 years.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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Fewer people.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
How many children do you have?
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Sounds good to me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It isn't that hard to grow your own food and pull water from a well.
You need to go get an education, India's water table has gone from 6 foot to 63 foot in 35 years.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
Dalek Dave wrote:
Sounds good to me.
What does? Drugging the food and water, mandatory abortions, and confiscating kids and putting them in government dormitories?
Dalek Dave wrote:
India's water table has gone from 6 foot to 63 foot in 35 years.
Which part? The desert areas? Their weather patterns are quite different from ours. Comparing India to the rest of the world is like comparing Antarctica to to Africa.
Fine words from a gentleman.[^]
modified on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:33 AM
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Sounds good to me.
What does? Drugging the food and water, mandatory abortions, and confiscating kids and putting them in government dormitories?
Dalek Dave wrote:
India's water table has gone from 6 foot to 63 foot in 35 years.
Which part? The desert areas? Their weather patterns are quite different from ours. Comparing India to the rest of the world is like comparing Antarctica to to Africa.
Fine words from a gentleman.[^]
modified on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:33 AM
The average water table fell that much, in some parts it is 1200 meters down! India is a big country and has a swiftly rising population, they are VERY SERIOUSLY worried about it. I am not kidding, go check this out, google is your friend, also remember that India has one of the Highest Rainfalls of any country. So where is all the water going?
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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How many children do you have?
More than you will ever manage. But I paid for mine, didn't rely on the state.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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The average water table fell that much, in some parts it is 1200 meters down! India is a big country and has a swiftly rising population, they are VERY SERIOUSLY worried about it. I am not kidding, go check this out, google is your friend, also remember that India has one of the Highest Rainfalls of any country. So where is all the water going?
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
Dalek Dave wrote:
So where is all the water going?
I don't know. If they are drinking it, I'd think they would pee it back into the ground. Water never vanishes unless you shoot it into space.
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More than you will ever manage. But I paid for mine, didn't rely on the state.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
Dalek Dave wrote:
More than you will ever manage.
Where do you get off telling others that there are too many people yet you are contributing to the problem?
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Sounds good to me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It isn't that hard to grow your own food and pull water from a well.
You need to go get an education, India's water table has gone from 6 foot to 63 foot in 35 years.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
Hmm, I don't know that, but I know our population continues to grow at a scary rate. Already, ~17% of the world's population is living in < 3% of the land area. The monsoon has been a complete failure this year and food security is pretty bad. Not to mention last year's inflation - a kilo of rice cost me Rs. 20 last May. Last August, it was Rs. 28 and now it's Rs. 36. :omg: For the last time, there is no D in privilege. Get your bloody spelling right before you get outraged over the Americans correcting you.
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So both the BBC and Sky news channels come out with exactly the same story, and, bizarely, run it at exactly the same time. The story is about food sustainability and how we all "take our food for granted" and that in the future we will all have to cut back. Heres the BBC link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/andrew_marr_show/8192100.stm[^] and Sky link: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Food-Assessment-Hilary-Benn-Warning-As-Says-We-Need-To-Grown-Our-Own-Food/Article/200908215357408?f=rss[^] (Ammusingly, the govt is considering banning 'buy one get one free' offers in order to reduce waste. Dear oh fucking christ. This really is where socialism tends towards utter loonacy) Apart froom this being yet another blanket blast from the enviros hitting all the media channels with exactly the same story, showing how uncritical the media is, especiallty when it comes to environmental scare stories, but also how environmantalists stive to continuously maintain the fear level in the public mind. Heres a few snippets of idiocy form the said envirnmental minister. Clearly someone of limited mental stature: "Last year the world had a wake-up call with the sudden oil and food price rises," he said. Yes, the prices went up because of speculation over the use of food as fuel. A speculation driven by environmentalists constant request for sustainable fuel. Keep burining coal annd oil and there's no wake up call. "While we know the price of our food, the full environmental costs and the costs to our health are significant and hidden." How does he know they are significant if they are hidden? "We need a radical re-think of how we produce and consume our food." Yes, we deffinitely need to consume our food more in the form of a curry! Clearly more verbal idiocy. "Globally we need to cut emissions and adapt to the changing climate that will alter what we can grow and where we can grow it." Bingo! This expains everything.
One would have to be incredibly stupid to not wonder at some point how we as a species are hoping to feed an ever growing number of people, as well as housing them, using a finite amount of farmland. And, of course, the stupidity of corn based biofuel is also hurting the ability of farmers to provide adequate food. Fact is, if we throw half our food out ( as I read here in NZ this week ), it's GOOD news in the short term, instead of farming more land, we can focus on lowering waste, for example, by feeding it to pigs to make more food out of it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
More than you will ever manage.
Where do you get off telling others that there are too many people yet you are contributing to the problem?
You're not starting this ignorant crap again, are you ? Leave discussion on population to people who have at least some chance of breeding, OK ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Funny how no-one is running with the real problem of food security, namely TOO MANY PEOPLE! Britainwould be almost completely self sufficient if it could lose 10 Million Mouths. Easily done, Get rid of the Welfare state. Stop Immigration. Hand out condoms to the denizens of Sink Estates. This would be good for Britain and good for the world. We need a world wide reduction in population of about 2 Billion. That would make water and food sustainable, and eke out the reducing resources for a lot longer. Water will be the next War. India is in trouble, Egypt says any attempt to dam either Lake Victoria or The Nile would be an act of War and Mexico is complaining about plans the US have for taking more water from the Rio Grand.
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
Dalek Dave wrote:
Get rid of the Welfare state
Amen
Dalek Dave wrote:
Hand out condoms to the denizens of Sink Estates
Amen. Stopping welfare would mean they would actually use them.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Water will be the next War
Yes, I believe that, too.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Norm .net wrote:
The one big factor would be reduce the worlds population, but nobody dare mention the fact - scary.
Lots of people have. One being John P Holdren (Obama's science and tech adviser). He co-authored a book called Ecoscience: saying that we need to add sterilizers to the the water and staple foods, enforce mandatory abortions of people who have more than one child, and raise all children in government dormitories because families aren't effective at raising children anymore. He said we need to start spraying the atmosphere with metals and chemicals to cool the earth. He is insane. It is a well known fact that the globalists in power want to reduce the world's population by a significant number, however, anyone who believes that is a good idea doesn't comprehend the hellish life we all face if we allow a bunch of psychopaths to cull humans. I don't think we have too many people, but if we ever reach a point were we can't sustain ourselves, well I will be growing my own food while I watch all the city yuppies run around in circles. It isn't that hard to grow your own food and pull water from a well.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He co-authored a book called Ecoscience: saying that we need to add sterilizers to the the water and staple foods, enforce mandatory abortions of people who have more than one child, and raise all children in government dormitories because families aren't effective at raising children anymore. He said we need to start spraying the atmosphere with metals and chemicals to cool the earth. He is insane.
Your proven literacy problems mean I'll read the book before I assume this is true. But, if it is, it does not mean that every person who talks about population control, believes all of these things.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is a well known fact that the globalists in power want to reduce the world's population by a significant number, however, anyone who believes that is a good idea doesn't comprehend the hellish life we all face if we allow a bunch of psychopaths to cull humans.
This is your usual conspiracy crap. 'well known fact' ? BS.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I don't think we have too many people
Your ignorance is a whole other thread.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
but if we ever reach a point were we can't sustain ourselves, well I will be growing my own food while I watch all the city yuppies run around in circles. It isn't that hard to grow your own food and pull water from a well.
You don't think if it comes to that, they won't come looking for your food and water, with those guns you love so much ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.