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  • C Christian Graus

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    Well, you are ignorant

    I admit to not having the sort of time to dedicate to youtube that you do.

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    Its all consolidated into the hands of the elite

    Well, those people become the 'elite' by being successful. How is it that only people who are communists, are successful ? If that's true, wouldn't that prove communism is better ? I went to a church once that told me all rock bands were in the church of Satan. I asked how people got forced to join, and as I played guitar, at what point these people would come to my door and either ban me from playing or force me to join. They went quiet. Your logic seems to me to be the same.

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    who just happen to greatly benefit from socialism and communism.

    why do they ? Why does a hollywood producer or actor care or benefit from communism ?

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    Christian Graus wrote:

    I asked how people got forced to join

    Forced?[^]

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    • C Christian Graus

      Well, right now the system works in such a way that the poor have more kids than anyone else, because they are paid to do so. I would support any system that removed that financial incentive to create more welfare slaves. I would further consider supporting any system that used other incentives to urge people to breed less, because the world needs that.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      wolfbinary
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      system works in such a way that the poor have more kids than anyone else

      That isn't necessarily true. Your making a generalization. There are plenty of poor people in African countries that don't get paid to have lots of children, but do because of infant mortality and cultural reasons beyond even that. A friend of mine once lived in Africa as part of the Peace Corp. He'd told me a story about how they had to pick up an entire village of dead bodies because there was a famine and they starved to death. He then told me about how, at birth, they would castrate the boys to one testicle so that there would be fewer people to feed. They still had too many. If financial reasons are the sole motivator than people who have no limit can breed as much as they like. This can make class warfare take on a whole new meaning. China just caps families to two and then they pay a fine if they have more than that. The only way they're allowed to have more children is if they only have girls in the first two. Apparently this is only for the Han ethnicity of Chinese though. In the end I doubt the world is ever going to be big enough for everyone. We'll probably have some kind of war before too much longer. Oh, what fun that will be. :rolleyes: Too bad the old people who start wars aren't the ones who fight them. Can you imagine two old codgers having at each other?

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        system works in such a way that the poor have more kids than anyone else

        That isn't necessarily true. Your making a generalization. There are plenty of poor people in African countries that don't get paid to have lots of children, but do because of infant mortality and cultural reasons beyond even that. A friend of mine once lived in Africa as part of the Peace Corp. He'd told me a story about how they had to pick up an entire village of dead bodies because there was a famine and they starved to death. He then told me about how, at birth, they would castrate the boys to one testicle so that there would be fewer people to feed. They still had too many. If financial reasons are the sole motivator than people who have no limit can breed as much as they like. This can make class warfare take on a whole new meaning. China just caps families to two and then they pay a fine if they have more than that. The only way they're allowed to have more children is if they only have girls in the first two. Apparently this is only for the Han ethnicity of Chinese though. In the end I doubt the world is ever going to be big enough for everyone. We'll probably have some kind of war before too much longer. Oh, what fun that will be. :rolleyes: Too bad the old people who start wars aren't the ones who fight them. Can you imagine two old codgers having at each other?

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        Christian Graus
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        wolfbinary wrote:

        There are plenty of poor people in African countries that don't get paid to have lots of children, but do because of infant mortality and cultural reasons beyond even that.

        By 'the system', I obviously mean the system in the part of the West where I live, not Africa.

        wolfbinary wrote:

        at birth, they would castrate the boys to one testicle so that there would be fewer people to feed.

        Wow - they think that would work ?

        wolfbinary wrote:

        If financial reasons are the sole motivator than people who have no limit can breed as much as they like.

        That is what happens with poor people here.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          Christian Graus wrote:

          How is it ?

          Do you not know anything about communism? It is a centrally planned system. No property rights for regular individuals, you don't get to keep what you earn, you own nothing not even your own labor.

          Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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          Christian Graus
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          Well, that's a slightly skewed definition, but what the hell does that have to do with Hollywood ?

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            I asked how people got forced to join

            Forced?[^]

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            Christian Graus
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            What a bunch of sad wankers they are. I mean, look at them...

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • B Brady Kelly

              Christian Graus wrote:

              I don't believe in the Illuminati.

              Have you ever gotten really lit up on good acid? :-D

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              Christian Graus
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              LOL - no. Mushrooms are the only psychadelic drug I've ever taken

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • _ _Damian S_

                Christian Graus wrote:

                I feel better now that I can agree with you, and not CSS :P

                He posts enough crap, eventually he has to stumble into accuracy... even if fleetingly!

                I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!

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                Christian Graus
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                It's the monkeys with typewriters idea ?

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  Well, that's a slightly skewed definition, but what the hell does that have to do with Hollywood ?

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  CaptainSeeSharp
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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  what the hell does that have to do with Hollywood ?

                  It amazes me how little you understand about how the world works. You should know about propaganda by now. People these days are immersed in Hollywood generated fantasies. It becomes a part of their world. Hollywood plays a role in defining reality as we know it.

                  Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                    Here is a good documentary. Sure its a video, but what the hell is wrong with that?[^]

                    Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                    Christian Graus
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                    I am in a resort in Fiji. I am able to read, not view. What's wrong with it ? Video is easy to show out of context, and watching a video sets the pace, reading lets you cross reference things and re-read things for clarity.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    • _ _Damian S_

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Because we can't invent solutions overnight, or out of thin air.

                      True, but while we have plenty of (relatively) cheap fossil fuel, there is no great incentive for the big oil companies to do anything else... Much the same as when any promising new technology was touted, it was bought and buried by the big oil companies...

                      I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Which is precisely why government should get involved to create incentives.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Which is precisely why government should get involved to create incentives.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        Which is precisely why government should get involved to create incentives.

                        You mean strongarm the citizens into accepting tyranny.

                        Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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