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  • C Christian Graus

    Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, middle and working-class Americans have been victimized by a boom-and-bust monetary policy. Wrong. There have been booms and busts in all economies, and in the USA prior to the Fed. In addition, most Americans have suffered a steadily eroding purchasing power because of the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. This represents a real, if hidden, tax imposed on the American people. This is also crap. How does the Fed force inflation onto us ? Inflation is what most people rely on for their retirement, or to move to a bigger home. From the Great Depression, to the stagflation of the seventies, to the current economic crisis caused by the housing bubble, every economic downturn suffered by this country over the past century can be traced to Federal Reserve policy. The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts. All banks do this. The core issue really, is that people borrow money they cannot pay back. With a stable currency, American exporters will no longer be held hostage to an erratic monetary policy. Stabilizing the currency will also give Americans new incentives to save as they will no longer have to fear inflation eroding their savings. Those members concerned about increasing America's exports or the low rate of savings should be enthusiastic supporters of this legislation. What you're asking for is government intervention, and control of the currencies worth. This would make you more of an international pariah, if nothing else. It sure would kill your ability to live high on the hog on cheap imports. I know you copied and pasted this, and I know you'll not really discuss it with me, so I'll stop there.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    My god, you are extremely ignorant. I'm not going to waste my time with a bunch of idiot un-American pieces of crap who literally have no comprehension of morality or principles. I think a long time of extreme suffering is what you need, perhaps then you would change your views that have contributed to more harm and suffering then the black plague.

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      The fed purely a purely criminal and corrupt enemy of all Americans. Go bow to your masters, you eurotrash have always been good little peasant serfs.

      Fall of the Republic[^]

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      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      The fed purely a purely criminal and corrupt enemy of all Americans. Go bow to your masters, you eurotrash have always been good little peasant serfs.

      Thank you Henize for that well thought out reply. Excuse me while I consign it to a place that doesn't see the light of day.

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        Alex hogarth wrote:

        you fought to put your plurocrats in charge instead of the brits

        Go bow to your CCTV cameras you stupid eurochum. You don't know jack shit about America so go home before your curfew sets in.

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        Christian Graus
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        See how you stoop to insults and ignorance when anyone tries to talk to you ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          Alex hogarth wrote:

          at what point did those with the money not contol things

          Well back when a private group of jackasses couldn't legally counterfeit money we were in a much better position. You eurotrash really crack me up, I thank God we slaughtered a bunch of you peons back in the revolutionary war.

          Fall of the Republic[^]

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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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          you did what? history actually has the revolution as a side show (yes it turned out differently) the brits were fighting the french the troops sent to surpress the rebelion were those that could be spared - ie 3rd line - the dregs, those that had performed badly and performed acts unbecoming - so dont get on your high horse. oh yes the famous us policy on europe, bleed us dry and then swan in as saviours in a war partly of your own creation, i perfer the civil war least you knew that even blue on blue was not completely wrong

          Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            My god, you are extremely ignorant. I'm not going to waste my time with a bunch of idiot un-American pieces of crap who literally have no comprehension of morality or principles. I think a long time of extreme suffering is what you need, perhaps then you would change your views that have contributed to more harm and suffering then the black plague.

            Fall of the Republic[^]

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            Christian Graus
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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            My god, you are extremely ignorant. I'm not going to waste my time with a bunch of idiot un-American pieces of crap who literally have no comprehension of morality or principles. I think a long time of extreme suffering is what you need, perhaps then you would change your views that have contributed to more harm and suffering then the black plague.

            Well, that didn't take long. I responded to your copy and paste crap with facts, and you respond with insults. It must occur to you somewhere inside that tiny mind of yours, that the reason you have to result to these defensive tactics is that your beliefs are so shaky, and so poorly understood by you, that you're incapable of discussing them, or even understanding them. I thought if we talked about the Fed, you were going to 'own' me ? I guess not. How pathetic it must be, to be you. Tell me again why you've not shot yourself ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              Alex hogarth wrote:

              you fought to put your plurocrats in charge instead of the brits

              Go bow to your CCTV cameras you stupid eurochum. You don't know jack shit about America so go home before your curfew sets in.

              Fall of the Republic[^]

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              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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              from what you posted you seem to know very little about your own country and f all about anybody elses you think the us is so good? yet you do nothing but slag it off, if i went by your rants i would think that the us was the biggest arse hole in the world and would benifit from being wiped out yet i know different. you know nothing about the UK and have less intention of learning more, you are a moron who has latched onto a internet cause because it stops you being responsible for your own sh1t life, well sorry but the fact your in the pooo is yours not some "fed" conspriercy

              Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                from what you posted you seem to know very little about your own country and f all about anybody elses you think the us is so good? yet you do nothing but slag it off, if i went by your rants i would think that the us was the biggest arse hole in the world and would benifit from being wiped out yet i know different. you know nothing about the UK and have less intention of learning more, you are a moron who has latched onto a internet cause because it stops you being responsible for your own sh1t life, well sorry but the fact your in the pooo is yours not some "fed" conspriercy

                Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                Christian Graus
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                This is the crux of it. Conspiracy theories allow him to blame other people for the mess he's made of his life. As you can see, despite telling me over and over he'd 'own' me on any discussion of the Fed, the moment I discuss, he insults and runs away. How pathetic.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  This is the crux of it. Conspiracy theories allow him to blame other people for the mess he's made of his life. As you can see, despite telling me over and over he'd 'own' me on any discussion of the Fed, the moment I discuss, he insults and runs away. How pathetic.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                  so true he cannot see alternative because that would require him to admit that maybe that the disaster that is his life is maybe of his own making. he insults then is suprised at the reaction, his insult shown that he cannot defend his posts

                  Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                    so true he cannot see alternative because that would require him to admit that maybe that the disaster that is his life is maybe of his own making. he insults then is suprised at the reaction, his insult shown that he cannot defend his posts

                    Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    And..... he's gone.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      And..... he's gone.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                      his mummy wont let him post, you know that nasty internetty thingy corupts his vigin mind plus he needs to takes his meds

                      Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        I am reading up on it now. I wonder if CSS realises that the money supply was entirely in the hands of private individuals in the US before the Fed was created ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        0x3c0
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                        This thread has been so much fun! I've seen CSS go from overconfidence, to debate, to insults, to retreat. Can you do this again sometime? It's the best laugh I've had all week.

                        OSDev :)

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                          This thread has been so much fun! I've seen CSS go from overconfidence, to debate, to insults, to retreat. Can you do this again sometime? It's the best laugh I've had all week.

                          OSDev :)

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                          Christian Graus
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                          ROTFL - yes, having just a small amount of knowledge on the subject, by co-incidence, I knew that was going to be enough to shoot down his ignorant delusions. Having people join in, and having EVERYONE on the thread know more about it than he did, after months of his boasting, well, let's just say I'm good for Christmas presents

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          • C CaptainSeeSharp

                            Alex hogarth wrote:

                            at what point did those with the money not contol things

                            Well back when a private group of jackasses couldn't legally counterfeit money we were in a much better position. You eurotrash really crack me up, I thank God we slaughtered a bunch of you peons back in the revolutionary war.

                            Fall of the Republic[^]

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                            And, once again, unable to find a cut and paste riposte to the question, he resorts to insults.

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            Well back when a private group of jackasses couldn't legally counterfeit money

                            Well, back in those days, what did people need money for? Small potatoes. There's no Fed. How does Congress fund, say, WWII? And why this great belief that Congress is somehow more accountable? TARP, for example. The American people really had a say in that program.

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                            You eurotrash really crack me up,

                            You do know that America was colonised by eurotrash?

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            I thank God we slaughtered

                            We? You fought in the War of Independence? Stop trying to bathe in reflected glory. Or join up. Then you can say we.

                            Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              ROTFL - yes, having just a small amount of knowledge on the subject, by co-incidence, I knew that was going to be enough to shoot down his ignorant delusions. Having people join in, and having EVERYONE on the thread know more about it than he did, after months of his boasting, well, let's just say I'm good for Christmas presents

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Ian Shlasko
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                              It is kinda funny how he reacts to these things. All he knows is what he listens to on YouTube, and he doesn't understand any of it. Hell, most of my knowledge on the Fed comes from Wikipedia, and I'm practically an expert compared to him.

                              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                                It is kinda funny how he reacts to these things. All he knows is what he listens to on YouTube, and he doesn't understand any of it. Hell, most of my knowledge on the Fed comes from Wikipedia, and I'm practically an expert compared to him.

                                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                                0x3c0
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                                I'm fairly sure that anybody is an expert on anything compared to him. "A squirrel is an expert on astrophysics compared to him"

                                OSDev :)

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  My god, you are extremely ignorant. I'm not going to waste my time with a bunch of idiot un-American pieces of crap who literally have no comprehension of morality or principles. I think a long time of extreme suffering is what you need, perhaps then you would change your views that have contributed to more harm and suffering then the black plague.

                                  Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                  Distind
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                                  I'm just going to chime in that Christian has yet to present something you actually managed to refute. Insults, declaration that a fact is a lie, and generally being a jackass isn't refuting someone. He's posting what at least appear to be facts, and to the best of my knowledge not only are, but are completely correct. If you were to try someone may take you seriously. And no copy pasta, demonstrate a real understanding of the system yourself. If you can do it, you'd be the first person I've seen actually do so. No matter how long a post is, how many times it's repeated, or how many times you call someone ignorant for not believing it, it doesn't become fact. I have an archive of idiots like you, spouting off baseless assertions and calling everyone else sheep, not one of them has successfully defended their views after challenging me on posting them. Unless of course you wish to be filed alongside the timecube guy.

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                                    ROTFL - yes, having just a small amount of knowledge on the subject, by co-incidence, I knew that was going to be enough to shoot down his ignorant delusions. Having people join in, and having EVERYONE on the thread know more about it than he did, after months of his boasting, well, let's just say I'm good for Christmas presents

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    having just a small amount of knowledge on the subject, by co-incidence

                                    Obviously you have a very little amount of knowledge on the subject. It blows me away how ignorant you are, some of the blatantly stupid replies that you whipped up out of bullshit are just behind and below ignorance. You think four people whose insolence and disdain exceeds all meters, spouting pure drunken eurotrash bullshit counters ones persons pure honest logic then you are broken. You are destined for hell.

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                                      I'm just going to chime in that Christian has yet to present something you actually managed to refute. Insults, declaration that a fact is a lie, and generally being a jackass isn't refuting someone. He's posting what at least appear to be facts, and to the best of my knowledge not only are, but are completely correct. If you were to try someone may take you seriously. And no copy pasta, demonstrate a real understanding of the system yourself. If you can do it, you'd be the first person I've seen actually do so. No matter how long a post is, how many times it's repeated, or how many times you call someone ignorant for not believing it, it doesn't become fact. I have an archive of idiots like you, spouting off baseless assertions and calling everyone else sheep, not one of them has successfully defended their views after challenging me on posting them. Unless of course you wish to be filed alongside the timecube guy.

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                                      Distind wrote:

                                      I'm just going to chime in that Christian has yet to present something you actually managed to refute

                                      Christian doesn't know shit from stink, and neither do you. You are so ignorant that you don't even know what the constitution says about this subject. So go sniff ass retard, go lick shit.

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                                        Distind wrote:

                                        I'm just going to chime in that Christian has yet to present something you actually managed to refute

                                        Christian doesn't know shit from stink, and neither do you. You are so ignorant that you don't even know what the constitution says about this subject. So go sniff ass retard, go lick shit.

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                                        Distind
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                                        Give me until tonight, I'll explain to you exactly what the constitution says on the matter. Unfortunately I have work to do right now. But again, insults are not refutation. My insult did no do so to you, the point that you haven't actually had any facts did. And when I take another quick look over the constitution to get all the details correct tonight I'll show you were the facts lie.

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          having just a small amount of knowledge on the subject, by co-incidence

                                          Obviously you have a very little amount of knowledge on the subject. It blows me away how ignorant you are, some of the blatantly stupid replies that you whipped up out of bullshit are just behind and below ignorance. You think four people whose insolence and disdain exceeds all meters, spouting pure drunken eurotrash bullshit counters ones persons pure honest logic then you are broken. You are destined for hell.

                                          Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                          it amazes me how stupid you can be, you fail in your attempt to convince people that what you say isnt just pure trash, and as you failed you resort to petty insults like eurotrash is somekind of damming all purpose word that imediately make you right, it doesnt it just highlights your stupidity. If replies to your posts are stupid it should be easy to counter yet you didnt, why? oh and who is this one persons who has this pure logic as you have shown non so far.

                                          Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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