Press For Truth coverage of H1N1 vaccinations in Toronto
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The facts are right there for you to look at, are you saying that people who are permanently injured or killed by vaccines are irrelevant and insignificant?
This is deliberate ignorance on your part. The link to autism for example ( as mentioned on her site ) is pure BS. Autism is not something you can catch, it's inate in your brain structure.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Your stereotypical prejudices are misplaced
The reason it's 'stereotypical' to question the validity of people who are trying to push an agenda, is that all intelligent people do it.
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Christian Graus wrote:
brain structure.
Which is adversely effected by mercury and other toxins. I suggest you do your research and stop spouting ignorant tobacco science. The government is trying to push an agenda with their relentless fear-mongering and dangerous vaccines backed by tobacco science. Anyone who questions their criminally illegitimate science and dangerous behavior deserves some respect.
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Christian Graus wrote:
brain structure.
Which is adversely effected by mercury and other toxins. I suggest you do your research and stop spouting ignorant tobacco science. The government is trying to push an agenda with their relentless fear-mongering and dangerous vaccines backed by tobacco science. Anyone who questions their criminally illegitimate science and dangerous behavior deserves some respect.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Which is adversely effected by mercury and other toxins.
Rubbish.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The government is trying to push an agenda with their relentless fear-mongering and dangerous vaccines backed by tobacco science.
What the hell is tobacco science ? What does it mean ? Why do you believe the government wants to cause people to become autistic ? What is their agenda ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
refuses to show his ID when challenged; what does he have to hide?
His name, his address, his ID number, and everything that can be gathered from it. Such as health records, vehicle registrations, income, assets, legal matters, employers, tax records, school records, and family members and their (everything listed).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
His name, his address, his ID number, and everything that can be gathered from it.
What nonsense! These people claimed to be accredited press reporters. When challenged to prove it by showing some ID they refused, and were, quite rightly, asked to desist. For all the management of the facility knew they could have been spies or terrorists. That's what I meant by "what have they got to hide".
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Here, you can follow the links from there. References to scientific literature are scattered throughout her documents.[^]
This lady, while perhaps well educated, is not a medical practitioner; so what you are claiming as scientific literature, is merely the opinion of an unqualified person. Reading some of the entries on her web page it is obvious that she is pushing her own agenda rather than reporting the results of a scientific study. If this is your understanding of science then it is little wonder you keep posting this delusional nonsense.
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Your stereotypical prejudices are misplaced. She is more educated than you, who are you to disregard her extensive education and experience? The facts are right there for you to look at, are you saying that people who are permanently injured or killed by vaccines are irrelevant and insignificant?
If any of your references are of the quality that would satisfy a medical/science journal such as I linked to, then I will accept them without question just because the quality of the article is such it has been subject to scrutiny for accuracy etc including a peer review. That has nothing to do with "stereotypical prejudices". It is irrelevant how my education and/or experiences stack up against her. I am not the one of trial, YOU Henize introduce her into the conversation and I am calling her out as being a witness of non-professional status. Do wander off to one or more references that supports your arguments that satisfies the stated minimum then you will have no arguments from me, until then, you continue to make yourself and your causes look foolish. [adding] TO CLARIFY : If your references satisfy these conditions, then fine, if not, then you are wasting everybody's time. Reporting financial conflicts of interest and relationships between investigators and research sponsors.[^] http://www.biomedcentral.com/info/authors/authorfaqs[^] such as http://www.globalizationandhealth.com/manuscript/[^] Beyond conflict of interest - Transparency is the key[^] [/edit done]
modified on Sunday, November 8, 2009 7:48 AM
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
refuses to show his ID when challenged; what does he have to hide?
His name, his address, his ID number, and everything that can be gathered from it. Such as health records, vehicle registrations, income, assets, legal matters, employers, tax records, school records, and family members and their (everything listed).
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Which is adversely effected by mercury and other toxins.
Rubbish.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The government is trying to push an agenda with their relentless fear-mongering and dangerous vaccines backed by tobacco science.
What the hell is tobacco science ? What does it mean ? Why do you believe the government wants to cause people to become autistic ? What is their agenda ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
What the hell is tobacco science ? What does it mean ?
Bet you don't get a comprehensive answer from Henize. But, (this is not me helping him out - heaven forbid that), here is a large document that references a huge quantity of supporting references. Tobacco industry issues management organizations: Creating a global corporate network to undermine public health[^]. But my reference to that large document might not even be on Henize's level of comprehension.
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Christian Graus wrote:
What the hell is tobacco science ? What does it mean ?
Bet you don't get a comprehensive answer from Henize. But, (this is not me helping him out - heaven forbid that), here is a large document that references a huge quantity of supporting references. Tobacco industry issues management organizations: Creating a global corporate network to undermine public health[^]. But my reference to that large document might not even be on Henize's level of comprehension.
Oh - OK. I get it. It means made up science like the tobacco industries attempts to say that they don't cause cancer ? I'm betting he used it because he saw it on a webpage and actually didn't know what it meant.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Oh - OK. I get it. It means made up science like the tobacco industries attempts to say that they don't cause cancer ? I'm betting he used it because he saw it on a webpage and actually didn't know what it meant.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I'm betting he used it because he saw it on a webpage and actually didn't know what it meant.
Perhaps not, I got it from one of those science journals that would have Henize standing on his head trying to comprehend. It really is a proper academic article, not that you-know-who would recognize. Henize might offer you a made up bit of rubbish, but not what I submit - it is verified by peers etc - see my post below for authentication and verification for science journals.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I'm betting he used it because he saw it on a webpage and actually didn't know what it meant.
Perhaps not, I got it from one of those science journals that would have Henize standing on his head trying to comprehend. It really is a proper academic article, not that you-know-who would recognize. Henize might offer you a made up bit of rubbish, but not what I submit - it is verified by peers etc - see my post below for authentication and verification for science journals.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
I got it from one of those science journals that would have Henize standing on his head trying to comprehend.
But he used it first, so he must have seen it from somewhere. I'm not saying the term is not valid, I just question if he understood what it meant, just like he plainly had no idea what a 'straw man' is.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
I got it from one of those science journals that would have Henize standing on his head trying to comprehend.
But he used it first, so he must have seen it from somewhere. I'm not saying the term is not valid, I just question if he understood what it meant, just like he plainly had no idea what a 'straw man' is.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
...just like he plainly had no idea what a 'straw man' is.
But in his defence he is too young to have seen the Wizard of Oz.
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