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ADL Calls Alex Jones “Conspiracy King,” Insinuates He Should be Removed from Society

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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    Front page, top story, full of links throughout the article.[^]

    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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    Ian Shlasko
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    For those who don't want to visit the nutjob site, here's the real link after clicking through... http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/default.asp[^] (Haven't read this yet... About to)

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    • C CaptainSeeSharp

      The ADL has launched a new purge against its political enemies in the form of a major report that equates skepticism and distrust of government with “a toxic atmosphere of rage,” which is threatening to boil over in the form of violence, specifically targeting Alex Jones as “The Conspiracy King” and inferring that people upset with Barack Obama’s policies are potential mass murderers. The tone of the ADL’s hit piece basically implies that Alex Jones and his ilk are such a threat to the establishment that they should be removed from society, which ironically is exactly how Hitler dealt with his political enemies in Nazi Germany. The ADL is allegorically pinning a yellow star on “conspiracy theorists,” Oath Keepers, Tea Party protesters, and anyone else who dares express dissent in response to the financial looting of the country or Barack Obama’s big government agenda. And what does the ADL consider to be the criteria for those it claims are intent on carnage and bloodshed in the vein of cop killer Richard Poplawski? A belief that, “There is a conspiracy by malevolent globalists to take over the world and institute a “New World Order”. So essentially by pointing out the fact that UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon writes op-eds for the New York Times calling for “global governance,” and highlighting the hundreds of mainstream news reports about the move towards world government and a one world currency which are published every single day, makes one a dangerous extremist and a crackpot according to the ADL. Another insane fringe belief according to the ADL is the notion that, “Conspiratorial figures such as “international bankers” and entities ranging from the Federal Reserve to the Council on Foreign Relations to the Bilderberg Group are engaged in a variety of strategies to take over (or extend their hold over) the government and to strip Americans of their rights.” That’s right, believing that powerful secretive groups which meet in secret, groups composed of the most influential power brokers on the planet, might talk about ways to expand their power to the detriment of the American people is another “fringe” belief suggesting the individual harboring such thoughts is intent on mass murder. The ADL attack goes beyond the failed establishment ploy to demonize political opponents of Obama as “racist,” and i

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      Christian Graus
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      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      By characterizing our political viewpoints as indicative of violent extremists, the ADL and their cohorts are desperately trying to turn off more people from joining our ranks and becoming informed.

      Wow - he'd have as many as TEN followers if not for someone telling the truth about him ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        The ADL has launched a new purge against its political enemies in the form of a major report that equates skepticism and distrust of government with “a toxic atmosphere of rage,” which is threatening to boil over in the form of violence, specifically targeting Alex Jones as “The Conspiracy King” and inferring that people upset with Barack Obama’s policies are potential mass murderers. The tone of the ADL’s hit piece basically implies that Alex Jones and his ilk are such a threat to the establishment that they should be removed from society, which ironically is exactly how Hitler dealt with his political enemies in Nazi Germany. The ADL is allegorically pinning a yellow star on “conspiracy theorists,” Oath Keepers, Tea Party protesters, and anyone else who dares express dissent in response to the financial looting of the country or Barack Obama’s big government agenda. And what does the ADL consider to be the criteria for those it claims are intent on carnage and bloodshed in the vein of cop killer Richard Poplawski? A belief that, “There is a conspiracy by malevolent globalists to take over the world and institute a “New World Order”. So essentially by pointing out the fact that UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon writes op-eds for the New York Times calling for “global governance,” and highlighting the hundreds of mainstream news reports about the move towards world government and a one world currency which are published every single day, makes one a dangerous extremist and a crackpot according to the ADL. Another insane fringe belief according to the ADL is the notion that, “Conspiratorial figures such as “international bankers” and entities ranging from the Federal Reserve to the Council on Foreign Relations to the Bilderberg Group are engaged in a variety of strategies to take over (or extend their hold over) the government and to strip Americans of their rights.” That’s right, believing that powerful secretive groups which meet in secret, groups composed of the most influential power brokers on the planet, might talk about ways to expand their power to the detriment of the American people is another “fringe” belief suggesting the individual harboring such thoughts is intent on mass murder. The ADL attack goes beyond the failed establishment ploy to demonize political opponents of Obama as “racist,” and i

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        Ian Shlasko
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        Ok, just read through the article[^] you're referring to... Looks sensible enough. +5 to the article. -100 to your post about it. The ADL's article is very informative and factual, with only a slight anti-nutcase bias.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          Ok, just read through the article[^] you're referring to... Looks sensible enough. +5 to the article. -100 to your post about it. The ADL's article is very informative and factual, with only a slight anti-nutcase bias.

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Its hardly factual. Read the reply that I originally posted.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            Front page, top story, full of links throughout the article.[^]

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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            Lost User
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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            Front page, top story, full of sh*t throughout the article.[^]

            FTFY!

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              For those who don't want to visit the nutjob site, here's the real link after clicking through... http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/default.asp[^] (Haven't read this yet... About to)

              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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              wolfbinary
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              Alex Jones is a wingnut. Listening to him is a form of entertainment, all be it a bad form. The article is very interesting in how in breaks up and almost chronicles the attitude going on in the country right now in politics. I've pretty much stopped watching TV because of people like Beck and the Fake News Channel. People like CSS and Illion want to feel special by telling us all this stuff that isn't true. The hero off to save us all. Don't kill the messenger they say. The only difference between the two of them that I see is Illion is quite as belligerent and extreme as CSS when it comes to conspiracy theories. TV was always best used for educational use. Discovery and History Channel are my favorites ;P .

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Its hardly factual. Read the reply that I originally posted.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                Ian Shlasko
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                Did you even read the actual article? Your little AJ post basically boils down to, "These guys don't agree with us, and they're talking about us, so they must be part of the evil conspiracy!" The article states facts. It lists the beliefs of the AJists (And others), and theorizes that these movements MAY lead to violence. It then cites one incident that bordered on violence, and one that led to the deaths of several policemen. If you want to debate this article, why don't you quote from the actual article, instead of quoting your buddy Alex's spin on it. Here's that link again, in case you can't find it in my previous post: Main Article[^] Sub-Section on Alex Jones[^] Sub-Section on the Oath Keepers[^]

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                  Alex Jones is a wingnut. Listening to him is a form of entertainment, all be it a bad form. The article is very interesting in how in breaks up and almost chronicles the attitude going on in the country right now in politics. I've pretty much stopped watching TV because of people like Beck and the Fake News Channel. People like CSS and Illion want to feel special by telling us all this stuff that isn't true. The hero off to save us all. Don't kill the messenger they say. The only difference between the two of them that I see is Illion is quite as belligerent and extreme as CSS when it comes to conspiracy theories. TV was always best used for educational use. Discovery and History Channel are my favorites ;P .

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  Nah, I stick with HBO and Sci-Fi (Which inexplicably calls itself "SyFy" now)... The less realistic, the better. I get my news from the web, from as many different sources as possible.

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    Did you even read the actual article? Your little AJ post basically boils down to, "These guys don't agree with us, and they're talking about us, so they must be part of the evil conspiracy!" The article states facts. It lists the beliefs of the AJists (And others), and theorizes that these movements MAY lead to violence. It then cites one incident that bordered on violence, and one that led to the deaths of several policemen. If you want to debate this article, why don't you quote from the actual article, instead of quoting your buddy Alex's spin on it. Here's that link again, in case you can't find it in my previous post: Main Article[^] Sub-Section on Alex Jones[^] Sub-Section on the Oath Keepers[^]

                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    I read the article. It is a total smear campaign and nothing more. it attacks any American who doesn't like whats going on in this country by calling them dangerous, violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional. Bullshit on that. Fuck you and your subversive buddies.

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                      I read the article. It is a total smear campaign and nothing more. it attacks any American who doesn't like whats going on in this country by calling them dangerous, violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional. Bullshit on that. Fuck you and your subversive buddies.

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      it attacks any American who doesn't like whats going on in this country by calling them dangerous, violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional.

                      violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional.

                      Generally speaking, pick any two and you have someone referred to by the article.

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                        Did you even read the actual article? Your little AJ post basically boils down to, "These guys don't agree with us, and they're talking about us, so they must be part of the evil conspiracy!" The article states facts. It lists the beliefs of the AJists (And others), and theorizes that these movements MAY lead to violence. It then cites one incident that bordered on violence, and one that led to the deaths of several policemen. If you want to debate this article, why don't you quote from the actual article, instead of quoting your buddy Alex's spin on it. Here's that link again, in case you can't find it in my previous post: Main Article[^] Sub-Section on Alex Jones[^] Sub-Section on the Oath Keepers[^]

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                        wolfbinary
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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        theorizes that these movements MAY lead to violence.

                        This is what's got me concerned with the current bend in politics right now and media. JFK was killed rather easily by some wack job and Obama could just as easily. It only takes one wing nut to come loose to do it.

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                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          theorizes that these movements MAY lead to violence.

                          This is what's got me concerned with the current bend in politics right now and media. JFK was killed rather easily by some wack job and Obama could just as easily. It only takes one wing nut to come loose to do it.

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                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                          I'm for Obama being impeached and tried as a criminal, along with all of his walstreet buddies.

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                          • C CaptainSeeSharp

                            The ADL is doing the race baiting, along with the likes of you. Shame on you.

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                            Care to address the fact that most of your 'victims' were white supremacists or acting on their literature?

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                            • C CaptainSeeSharp

                              I'm for Obama being impeached and tried as a criminal, along with all of his walstreet buddies.

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                              Distind
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                              Here's a question: Who all would be left in government if you had your way, or better yet, who'd replace those who were gone?

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                              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                I read the article. It is a total smear campaign and nothing more. it attacks any American who doesn't like whats going on in this country by calling them dangerous, violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional. Bullshit on that. Fuck you and your subversive buddies.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                Ian Shlasko
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                                Really? Well, time for a simple text search, among the main article and all of the sub-articles...

                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                dangerous

                                dangerous: 2 mentions, saying that Beck claims that Obama is "dangerous"

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                                violent

                                violent: "...potential for a rise of violent anti-government acts..." "...these theories allege dark, violent designs..." "...increasing their willingness to take extreme, even violent, action..." "Violent imagery:" (Accompanying picture of a banner showing an M16) "...Open calls to violent action are rare..."

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                                racist

                                "...including Nazi imagery, racist imagery..." "...were also racist signs and..." (Both quotes accompanied by images of protesters holding posters with racist slogans)

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                                crazy

                                Zero occurrences. I could go on, but I think it's pretty clear that you haven't read the article at all, and are basing all of your assumptions on Alex's spin.

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                                  I'm for Obama being impeached and tried as a criminal, along with all of his walstreet buddies.

                                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                  wolfbinary
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                                  Those

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                                  walstreet buddies.

                                  are the same ones Bush had.

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                                    Those

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                                    walstreet buddies.

                                    are the same ones Bush had.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                                    Yeah, they are criminals. They are the sames ones Clinton had, and Bush Sr. they are criminals. This stuff has been going on for many many decades and they have been getting away with it. Now its just out in the open in your face.

                                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      it attacks any American who doesn't like whats going on in this country by calling them dangerous, violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional.

                                      violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional.

                                      Generally speaking, pick any two and you have someone referred to by the article.

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                                      Tim Craig
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                                      Once you get to delusional, the others quickly fall into place. :) I think that was CSS's start point, well his tipping point anyhow. Being an uneducated lout was his starting point.

                                      You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                        I read the article. It is a total smear campaign and nothing more. it attacks any American who doesn't like whats going on in this country by calling them dangerous, violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional. Bullshit on that. Fuck you and your subversive buddies.

                                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        calling them dangerous, violent, racist, crazy, extreme, and delusional. bullsh*t on that. f*** you and your subversive buddies.

                                        You don't sound like any of those things when you talk this way.....

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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