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  • R ragnaroknrol

    Why are you bothering? Seriously, I stopped bothering with him a while ago because he is incapable of managing to respond in a manner that does not make my 4yr old look good. Could a lot of the stuff that went down that day been a cover up? Yep. Was it a bit too good of a coincidence? Yeop. Did the powers that be exploit the fuck out of it and make the entire thing worse for 7 years? You betcha! Does any of that matter at this point? Not really. We have people in charge unwilling to go after them. They had 7 years to cover up tracks and likely used it to good effect. Conspiracy websites aren't even on their radar. Too many wack jobs saying stuff about vaccines, alien abductions, 9-11, and other things all combined in a web of lies and such make it so that if even ONE of them was actually right, no one would be able to take them seriously. And really, I think far too few people take into account that our government has made it a habit of taking something simple and complicating it to the point where it becomes such a mess that it is almost worthless. Apply that to a situation where even a single person with the right evidence can bring it all down and it makes some scenarios pretty much impossible. Oh and when people point out that a jet would have smacked a building because it takes less than 2 minutes to get there and the timeline said 20, but then the author changes the subject and goes nuts over something that is not related, they are using a straw man. Ignore the straw man. Focus on the point and force an answer. How was there a conversation about a jet heading for Washington for 20 minutes when the plane could have gone to Washington, went back to Newark for bagels, and come back in that amount of time? Sorry, if you are going to make some scenario about how this actually happened, then you need to have basics down. The movie did not.

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    ragnaroknrol wrote:

    Why are you bothering?

    Practice. No matter what you do in life, you will inevitably be confronted by complete imbeciles. It's good to know what to expect.

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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    • R ragnaroknrol

      Why are you bothering? Seriously, I stopped bothering with him a while ago because he is incapable of managing to respond in a manner that does not make my 4yr old look good. Could a lot of the stuff that went down that day been a cover up? Yep. Was it a bit too good of a coincidence? Yeop. Did the powers that be exploit the fuck out of it and make the entire thing worse for 7 years? You betcha! Does any of that matter at this point? Not really. We have people in charge unwilling to go after them. They had 7 years to cover up tracks and likely used it to good effect. Conspiracy websites aren't even on their radar. Too many wack jobs saying stuff about vaccines, alien abductions, 9-11, and other things all combined in a web of lies and such make it so that if even ONE of them was actually right, no one would be able to take them seriously. And really, I think far too few people take into account that our government has made it a habit of taking something simple and complicating it to the point where it becomes such a mess that it is almost worthless. Apply that to a situation where even a single person with the right evidence can bring it all down and it makes some scenarios pretty much impossible. Oh and when people point out that a jet would have smacked a building because it takes less than 2 minutes to get there and the timeline said 20, but then the author changes the subject and goes nuts over something that is not related, they are using a straw man. Ignore the straw man. Focus on the point and force an answer. How was there a conversation about a jet heading for Washington for 20 minutes when the plane could have gone to Washington, went back to Newark for bagels, and come back in that amount of time? Sorry, if you are going to make some scenario about how this actually happened, then you need to have basics down. The movie did not.

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      ragnaroknrol wrote:

      vaccines, alien abductions,

      Yeah right, because vaccines and aliens go hand in hand. :rolleyes: Quit making shit up, nobody but the onion and humor websites are talking about alien invaders.

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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        ragnaroknrol wrote:

        vaccines, alien abductions,

        Yeah right, because vaccines and aliens go hand in hand. :rolleyes: Quit making shit up, nobody but the onion and humor websites are talking about alien invaders.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument[^] Fail.

        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument[^] Fail.

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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          Why bother practicing when this one is so utterly predictable at this point? 1 word out of an entire post to focus on that has nothing to do with the subject and he still can't answer how a 20 minute scanrio happened when the plane could go to Newark and back from DC in that time. Dude, it's like practicing to swat a fly. Not exactly necessary.

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            Why bother practicing when this one is so utterly predictable at this point? 1 word out of an entire post to focus on that has nothing to do with the subject and he still can't answer how a 20 minute scanrio happened when the plane could go to Newark and back from DC in that time. Dude, it's like practicing to swat a fly. Not exactly necessary.

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            Well, I was going to say it was entertaining, but I'm starting to get bored of him. And it's not even the viewpoints... josda shares most some of the same views (But a bit less extreme), but he can debate the issues intelligently... CSS just posts youtube links and copies text from Alex Jones.

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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              ragnaroknrol wrote:

              vaccines, alien abductions,

              Yeah right, because vaccines and aliens go hand in hand. :rolleyes: Quit making shit up, nobody but the onion and humor websites are talking about alien invaders.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              You'd be amazed. I know of at least three people who think the old series V was fact.

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                You'd be amazed. I know of at least three people who think the old series V was fact.

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                wait... It wasn't?

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                • I Ian Shlasko

                  Too successful... I haven't seen their tables in a while, but I decided that whenever I walk past one of them, I'm going to yell "Hail Xenu[^]!" just to annoy them. I was going to let them rope me into a stress test, just so I could waste their time and THEN make them feel really stupid, but I decided it's not worth the effort. (Don't know if they do it in your area, but here in NYC, they set up these tables in touristy areas like Times Square and Grand Central Terminal, offering "free stress tests," during which they inevitably find you to be stressed and depressed, and offer to "help")

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                  Messing with them is fun for about an hour. Then you start to feel like maybe you are that guy that kicks puppies for fun. They look up at you with these sweet, adoring, loving, money grubbing, want to control you forever eyes and you just can't keep it up. Next thing you know you actually are stressed, Xenu is trying to eat your soul and Tom Cruise is blowing a line in your living room with his latest boy toy. After that it is all Hollywood, hookers, and heroin from there. No where to go but up from that. um... not that I know all this.

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    Well, I was going to say it was entertaining, but I'm starting to get bored of him. And it's not even the viewpoints... josda shares most some of the same views (But a bit less extreme), but he can debate the issues intelligently... CSS just posts youtube links and copies text from Alex Jones.

                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                    I bet I could write a program to simulate this behavior. I'm just too lazy to do it. I do have a behavior simulator for 0-4 year olds though. It should work with just changing some stuff to be Alex Jones links instead of arguing or throwing a fit.

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                      You'd be amazed. I know of at least three people who think the old series V was fact.

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                      okay, I couldn't resist. I retract my earlier statement. It is hilarious to make him eat his own words. Never tell someone to Google something if you don't know what the first hit is going to be...

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                      • R ragnaroknrol

                        okay, I couldn't resist. I retract my earlier statement. It is hilarious to make him eat his own words. Never tell someone to Google something if you don't know what the first hit is going to be...

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                        Haha, well put!

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                        • R ragnaroknrol

                          Messing with them is fun for about an hour. Then you start to feel like maybe you are that guy that kicks puppies for fun. They look up at you with these sweet, adoring, loving, money grubbing, want to control you forever eyes and you just can't keep it up. Next thing you know you actually are stressed, Xenu is trying to eat your soul and Tom Cruise is blowing a line in your living room with his latest boy toy. After that it is all Hollywood, hookers, and heroin from there. No where to go but up from that. um... not that I know all this.

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                          Scary, man... Very scary... Actually, for a while I was hoping they would try to drag me over (They would have people ask random people in the crowd to come over to the table)... I had all sorts of lines planned out (I'm one of those people who plans out conversations)... "So does your cult offer a full dental plan?" "Can I be an evil space alien instead? That looks like much more fun." "Oh, I'm just trying to see how hard it would be to start a cult when I finish MY science fiction novel." (This was before I actually DID finish my novel, of course) "You know what really stresses me out? The idea of being sucked into a brainwashing cult!" (Little homage to Maria Bamford - She's hilarious)

                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                          • C CaptainSeeSharp

                            This is Christo Garcia's first place winning adaptation of Charlie Sheen's script "20 Minutes with the President."[^] Scores of great hard-hitting factual information is contained in this entertaining and award-winning masterpiece. Charlie Sheen himself picked this as the #1 video of his script.

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

                            modified on Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:53 PM

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                            Why have you posted this? Are we to review the video? O.K. The team may have a career in PSB Information Shorts. Are we to review the script? O.K. Mr. Sheen, I enjoy most of the performances that you (and your dad) have given over the years. Stick to acting. Are we to comment on the Conspiracy Theories? O.K. I see nothing new. Whether they are true or not, only time will tell.

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            Typical, nobody can address his bullet proof points.

                            Were you a rational, knowledgeable person, I would review all the available evidence, pro and con, and debate with you where we disagreed. But: Rational?

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            It takes about 30 minutes for a jet like that to travel 20 miles.

                            You do not even stop to think. And: Knowledgeable?

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            We have missile defense systems designed to locate and shoot down a missile before it hits. You better damn well belief [sic] we can shoot down a jet in less than 2 seconds, let alone 2 minutes.

                            You have now made it evident that you don't know about missile defence systems.

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            False flags never happen? Perhaps some hard-evidence is needed.

                            Er. Nobody remarked that false flags never happen, they are a matter of record. The only people threatened by Northwoods were Cubans, at home, at sea, or in the USA. Haven't you a better example to hand?

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            The government cares about people.

                            That's the military. Or is the USA now under Martial Law?

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            I bet you never stop to think about the world you live in from the point of view of a conscious sentient life-form on a giant ball of mass hurdling through space caught in the gravity of a super massive nuclear fusion reactor.

                            Can't speak for the others, but, I frequently worry about the hurdles. BTW: sentient is redundant.

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            I prefer Treasonous Traitor.

                            Well, you've never been ashamed to display your ignorance.

                            Bob Emmett Hey! Hey! AEJ, how many lies did you post today?.

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                              We have missile defense systems designed to locate and shoot down a missile before it hits. You better damn well belief we can shoot down a jet in less than 2 seconds, let alone 2 minutes. Especially if it is headed directly to the heart of the war machine, the pentagon, which is quite close to the white house.

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              We have missile defense systems designed to locate and shoot down a missile before it hits. You better damn well belief we can shoot down a jet in less than 2 seconds, let alone 2 minutes. Especially if it is headed directly to the heart of the war machine, the pentagon, which is quite close to the white house.

                              I do belief you just got powned as the kids say these days.

                              Movember![^]

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                                It takes about 30 minutes for a jet like that to travel 20 miles. Seriously lame.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                It takes about 30 minutes for a jet like that to travel 20 miles. Seriously lame.

                                Seriously? I reckon that's one of your best so far!

                                Movember![^]

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