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  • L Lost User

    Christian Graus wrote:

    VB6 is rubbish

    You've probably not used VB6 in your life.

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    Yes, he has, as so have I. It is garbage compared to .NET.

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      Sadly, I have. And Microsoft agrees with me, that's why they killed it. VB.NET was going to be a lot LESS like VB6, before all the VB6 retards jumped up and down. They knew it was beyond redemption and set out to start again.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      Microsoft made a good decision to start everything from scratch. Apart from the basic language syntax, everything is different in VB.NET, adding to this was the unhelpful MSDN which made the transition for VB6 programmers a really tough one. That is why many programmers were reluctant to switch over to VB.NET (and consequently to .NET) Despite all this, IMHO, I still feel that VB6 was not bad enough to be called "rubbish". If you consider pre-.NET era alone, you would appreciate why I made this point.

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        Yes, he has, as so have I. It is garbage compared to .NET.

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        Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

        It is garbage compared to .NET.

        I wouldn't agree with you although I admit that it was a lot "less" than .NET that a comparison itself is not warranted. But most people will agree with me that in the pre-.NET era, we did not have many choice as far as RAD tools were concerned.

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          Microsoft made a good decision to start everything from scratch. Apart from the basic language syntax, everything is different in VB.NET, adding to this was the unhelpful MSDN which made the transition for VB6 programmers a really tough one. That is why many programmers were reluctant to switch over to VB.NET (and consequently to .NET) Despite all this, IMHO, I still feel that VB6 was not bad enough to be called "rubbish". If you consider pre-.NET era alone, you would appreciate why I made this point.

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          Christian Graus
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          VB6 was only ever useful for people who wrote apps in a very narrow band, and for people who could make up the shortfall by using C++ COM dlls to do the real work.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

            It is garbage compared to .NET.

            I wouldn't agree with you although I admit that it was a lot "less" than .NET that a comparison itself is not warranted. But most people will agree with me that in the pre-.NET era, we did not have many choice as far as RAD tools were concerned.

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            Christian Graus
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            Shameel wrote:

            But most people will agree with me that in the pre-.NET era, we did not have many choice as far as RAD tools were concerned.

            Yes, pre .NET the basic choice was RAD or real programming.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • L Lost User

              Microsoft made a good decision to start everything from scratch. Apart from the basic language syntax, everything is different in VB.NET, adding to this was the unhelpful MSDN which made the transition for VB6 programmers a really tough one. That is why many programmers were reluctant to switch over to VB.NET (and consequently to .NET) Despite all this, IMHO, I still feel that VB6 was not bad enough to be called "rubbish". If you consider pre-.NET era alone, you would appreciate why I made this point.

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              Shameel wrote:

              That is why many programmers were reluctant to switch over to VB.NET (and consequently to .NET)

              No, not really. The switch was never made because businesses didn't want to spend the money on rewriting apps that were already written in VB6 and worked.

              Shameel wrote:

              Despite all this, IMHO, I still feel that VB6 was not bad enough to be called "rubbish". If you consider pre-.NET era alone, you would appreciate why I made this point

              Yeah, it's still garbage because it used error handling constructs that were 15 years old at the time, had very limited support OOP concepts, terrible interoperability support with native functions of Win32 and third party libraries, and limited support with everything else "Windows".

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                Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                It is garbage compared to .NET.

                I wouldn't agree with you although I admit that it was a lot "less" than .NET that a comparison itself is not warranted. But most people will agree with me that in the pre-.NET era, we did not have many choice as far as RAD tools were concerned.

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                Oh, you mean C, C++, Delphi, PowerBuilder, Java, ...

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                  Yes, he has, as so have I. It is garbage compared to .NET.

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                  :confused::confused::confused:VB6 is not a garbage. vb6 applications cannot be fully & easily decompiled, whereas .NET Applications can be easily decompiled to get the original source code. We have to use some third party expensive Obfustication tools for protecting our code. Although Obfustication does not protect the code completely. Even after Obfustication the code is decompiled. Source: Google.:confused::confused::confused:

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                    :confused::confused::confused:VB6 is not a garbage. vb6 applications cannot be fully & easily decompiled, whereas .NET Applications can be easily decompiled to get the original source code. We have to use some third party expensive Obfustication tools for protecting our code. Although Obfustication does not protect the code completely. Even after Obfustication the code is decompiled. Source: Google.:confused::confused::confused:

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                    So learn C++, what do you want, this is a choice you make when designing an application, not when already writing one.

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                      :confused::confused::confused:VB6 is not a garbage. vb6 applications cannot be fully & easily decompiled, whereas .NET Applications can be easily decompiled to get the original source code. We have to use some third party expensive Obfustication tools for protecting our code. Although Obfustication does not protect the code completely. Even after Obfustication the code is decompiled. Source: Google.:confused::confused::confused:

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                      So you really want to put up with poor contructs and design restrictions to gain code protection? That's all?? You don't have to protect your entire codebase in an application. You really only need to protect business logic and data access. The rest is just UI stuff that really doesn't need protection. If it's that damn critical, you've even have to obfuscate the VB6 code. Face it, ANY code can be decompiled back to some form that is usable by a hacker. So what if they can't get the VB6 source back, they can still use a C equivilent that a decompiler can output of your VB6 app. And yes, there are tools out there that will defeat .NET Reflector. IMHO, what you gain from .NET greatly outweighs the "protection" you get when using VB6.

                      A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
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