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  • I Ian Shlasko

    You don't understand the term "Black Propaganda" at all. Let me sum it up... Black Propaganda = Pretending to be the opposing side and distributing false information to discredit them. So you're saying this is actually all a staged political move by the folks trying to discredit the global warming theory. I suggest you choose a different term.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    Yeah, they are pretending to be on the side of humanity, while making humans out to be the enemy. Its just how they use squalene in the vaccines to make the person's immune system attack the body its supposed to protect. This is whats happening on a society as a whole.

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      O.K. I know I'm probably being stoopid actually touching on issues here but you know what with being a stubborn old die hard its a just a bad habit of mine. Given that the track record of actually implementing green house commitments is atrocious, regardless of promises made. What you have is a whole group of people who are trying to some extent to pull in the same direction. A lot of whom will actually be doing it for voter sound bites and as an excuse to raise taxes. You have to remember most businesses actually love the whole green thing as they get to charge for stuff that they would never get away with previously. As to specifics lets face it you have carbon offsets which are a joke, a complex and not very funny joke but a complete joke all the same. One that is constantly accused of being a way of richer countries and industries being allowed to continue polluting at the expense of the poorer. Finally you have the arbitrary 1990 baseline. There is no evidence that the 1990 baseline is a good or even reasonably sustainable baseline it is just a baseline. Then you have the politicians playing one upmanship seeing who can make the best sound bite reductions against the arbitrary baseline apart from the Americans etc whose best proposal is a four percent reduction on the 1990 baseline. ( I'm not being harsh here this is not only true but likely to be the only achieveable offer on the table ) So the question is ... What's your problem? ( Include real world examples in your response not made up bs. )

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      pseudonym67 wrote:

      What's your problem?

      Copenhagen is everybody's problem.

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        Yeah, they are pretending to be on the side of humanity, while making humans out to be the enemy. Its just how they use squalene in the vaccines to make the person's immune system attack the body its supposed to protect. This is whats happening on a society as a whole.

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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        Yeah, they are pretending to be on the side of humanity, while making humans out to be the enemy.

        Read the definition again. You're still not getting it. If I pretended to be a Ron Paul supporter, and went out preaching that everyone should obey the word of Ron, bow before him, and worship him as a deity, THAT would be "Black Propaganda." On the surface, I would appear to be a Ron Paul supporter, but I would also look like a complete nutjob, hence discrediting the real Ron Paul supporters. In this instance... If this were Black Propaganda, that would mean that the anti-AGW people are pretending to be human-assisted global warming advocates, and are doing this to intentionally make them look foolish. That would mean that this conference was made by the anti-AGW people. Understand yet? I'm not bothering to debate the issue, but "Black Propaganda" is entirely the wrong term. Admit your mistake and move on.

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          I was referring to your PSYOPS comment. Propaganda is propaganda, little more than a waste of time if you recognize it for what it is.

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          Distind wrote:

          Propaganda is propaganda

          Just as a System.Windows.Forms.Form is a object. Learn a little.

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            Distind wrote:

            Propaganda is propaganda

            Just as a System.Windows.Forms.Form is a object. Learn a little.

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            modified on Monday, December 7, 2009 3:14 PM

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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            Just as a System.Windows.Form is a object. Learn a little.

            System.Windows.Forms.Form

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              Yeah, they are pretending to be on the side of humanity, while making humans out to be the enemy.

              Read the definition again. You're still not getting it. If I pretended to be a Ron Paul supporter, and went out preaching that everyone should obey the word of Ron, bow before him, and worship him as a deity, THAT would be "Black Propaganda." On the surface, I would appear to be a Ron Paul supporter, but I would also look like a complete nutjob, hence discrediting the real Ron Paul supporters. In this instance... If this were Black Propaganda, that would mean that the anti-AGW people are pretending to be human-assisted global warming advocates, and are doing this to intentionally make them look foolish. That would mean that this conference was made by the anti-AGW people. Understand yet? I'm not bothering to debate the issue, but "Black Propaganda" is entirely the wrong term. Admit your mistake and move on.

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              Regardless of how you interpret it, its a PSYOP. After that they go bang some prostitutes and feel like conquerors.

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                Just as a System.Windows.Form is a object. Learn a little.

                System.Windows.Forms.Form

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                See, your getting it. I like it when things run on auto.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  Regardless of how you interpret it, its a PSYOP. After that they go bang some prostitutes and feel like conquerors.

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                  You're changing the subject. I want you to acknowledge that the term "Black Propaganda" does not apply here.

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                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                    See, your getting it. I like it when things run on auto.

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                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    See, your getting it. I like it when things run on auto.

                    "you're"

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                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                      Regardless of how you interpret it, its a PSYOP. After that they go bang some prostitutes and feel like conquerors.

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                      It's a word, with a meaning, not an interpretation. Your delusions which vilify everyone who disagrees with you aren't really enough proof to call the makers of it not human, or that they consider humans to be the enemy. Given that most of the supporters do it to help people, to avoid the worst case scenario, it's fairly obvious showing it will get their support. This is, straight forward, basic, typical, propaganda. Check out some of the cases of black propaganda off the wiki article, I'm going to go snag a few books after work because the topic sounds remarkably interesting. So, in an odd way, thanks, seems like a rich subject from history I hadn't previously encountered. Or at least hadn't realized people had documented as much as they appear to have.

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                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                        Distind wrote:

                        Propaganda is propaganda

                        Just as a System.Windows.Forms.Form is a object. Learn a little.

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                        modified on Monday, December 7, 2009 3:14 PM

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                        No see, what I'm saying is this is plain vanilla propaganda, nothing terribly special here. Now, if they said global warming deniers where out to end the world by creating this scenario, and posed it to be Alex Jones saying it. THEN you would be correct, but it isn't.

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                        • I Ian Shlasko

                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          See, your getting it. I like it when things run on auto.

                          "you're"

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                          Yes, my slave. My spare brain. Churn this for a bit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                            Yes, my slave. My spare brain. Churn this for a bit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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            Yes, my slave. My spare brain.

                            Stop chewing on that.

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            Churn this for a bit... 07 02 00 00 00 24 00 00 52 53 41 32 00 04 00 00 ...

                            Nah.

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                            • I Ian Shlasko

                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              Just as a System.Windows.Form is a object. Learn a little.

                              System.Windows.Forms.Form

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                              His programming has got to be just as addle as his logic.

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                              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                Distind wrote:

                                Propaganda is propaganda

                                Just as a System.Windows.Forms.Form is a object. Learn a little.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                Just as a System.Windows.Forms.Form is an object. Learn a little.

                                In the English language we use the indefinite article 'an' before a vowel sound. It prevents the glottal stop, which is still annoying even when not sounded out. Hopefully you've learned something today, if not the meaning of 'Black-propaganda'.

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                                  Yes, my slave. My spare brain. Churn this for a bit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                                  Okay, I'll bite. It's not plaintext, not a hexdump of any executable format I know, it's not even an exotic encoding. However, it seems to have a magic number of RSA2. According to Google, that makes it a private key. Am I correct? [edit] Actually, it just looks like you've copied and pasted it from this[^] site

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                                    Okay, I'll bite. It's not plaintext, not a hexdump of any executable format I know, it's not even an exotic encoding. However, it seems to have a magic number of RSA2. According to Google, that makes it a private key. Am I correct? [edit] Actually, it just looks like you've copied and pasted it from this[^] site

                                    OSDev :)

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                                    0x3c0 wrote:

                                    Actually, it just looks like you've copied and pasted it from this site

                                    Well you didn't really believe he would come up with anything original!

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                                    • I Ian Shlasko

                                      black = Anything that CSS disagrees with

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                                      You are a race baiter, you are lower than a racist.

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                                        You are a race baiter, you are lower than a racist.

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                                        Oh hey, you going to admit to not really knowing what black-propaganda is? Even after you linked to a Wiki page about it? How does him pointing out how you keep using that color to describe something you think is bad (anything you disagree with is bad, obviously) is him race baiting? Oh, you going to admit not knowing what the heck the term was when you named this little thread?

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                                          Oh hey, you going to admit to not really knowing what black-propaganda is? Even after you linked to a Wiki page about it? How does him pointing out how you keep using that color to describe something you think is bad (anything you disagree with is bad, obviously) is him race baiting? Oh, you going to admit not knowing what the heck the term was when you named this little thread?

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                                          ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                          anything you disagree with is bad, obviously

                                          I disagree with anything that is bad.

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