Charleston Firefighters FORCED to take down a Nativity Scene on public property
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Wasn't always illegal .. Once it was they did NOT use public property. No loop holes, just their constitutional right to free speech. Interesting other Christmas symbols on public property was not disputed.
Were the fire fighters putting it up on company time? Did the city pay for any of it? Not just setting it up but the materials used. There are a lot of "loop holes" but that doesn't make it legal. One of the big holes they usually try to exploit on using public property for religious displays is to sell the land, usually for a song, to some private party and the land is still surrounded by other public property. Very clever. X|
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Were the fire fighters putting it up on company time? Did the city pay for any of it? Not just setting it up but the materials used. There are a lot of "loop holes" but that doesn't make it legal. One of the big holes they usually try to exploit on using public property for religious displays is to sell the land, usually for a song, to some private party and the land is still surrounded by other public property. Very clever. X|
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
Who gives a fuck. They should have kept it up. Shit on those who don't like it.
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Who gives a fuck. They should have kept it up. Shit on those who don't like it.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
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No, they should take it down and obey the law. Fuck you and assholes like you who don't like it.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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No, they should take it down and obey the law. Fuck you and assholes like you who don't like it.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
Actually turns out there was also a Jewish menorah, and Kwanzan kinara, as well as secular decorations like Santa and elves and reindeer. But only the nativity scene was protested. There was no sneaky deal to sell or buy land. And the City has been doing the same decorations for over 40 years. Firemen put up on their own time. A sole person complained every year. The Mayors office has not had one person support the removal, but 100's of protests. They sought legal advice. As long as it was not solely a Christian display, and those other symbols were involved, then they determined having it up was compliant with Supreme Court guidelines. It's back up!
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Actually turns out there was also a Jewish menorah, and Kwanzan kinara, as well as secular decorations like Santa and elves and reindeer. But only the nativity scene was protested. There was no sneaky deal to sell or buy land. And the City has been doing the same decorations for over 40 years. Firemen put up on their own time. A sole person complained every year. The Mayors office has not had one person support the removal, but 100's of protests. They sought legal advice. As long as it was not solely a Christian display, and those other symbols were involved, then they determined having it up was compliant with Supreme Court guidelines. It's back up!
So, since we're apparently getting the entire story finally: The firemen put up a display of cross cultural symbols associated with this time of year, numerous religions, on their own time, on private property? Yea, whoever complained is a putz, but if the department itself(rather than the men behind it) backed it, he'd have a case.