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    Cass Sunstein’s white paper, entitled “Conspiracy Theories,” is an exclamation point in the latest chapter of a long history of government tyranny against citizens who organize in opposition to the government. Sunstein argues that individuals and groups deviating from the official government narrative on a number of political issues and events are a national security threat. The administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs formulates “a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy,” writes Paul Joseph Watson. Sunstein’s plan is a reformulation of a long-standing effort to subvert the First Amendment and the Bill of Rights. Concerted government attacks against organized political opposition began soon after the founding of the republic — specifically with the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts in 1798 by the Federalists — but have gained critical momentum in the modern era. During the First World War, the government created the Bureau of Investigation, predecessor to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and appointed J. Edgar Hoover as its head. Hoover’s Bureau of Investigation, with the assistance of police and the military — described as a “citizens auxiliary” — conducted mass raids against the anti-war movement of the time, according to documents released by the Church Committee in the 1970s. The Bureau, specifically designed as a national political police force, “rounded up some 50,000 men without warrants of sufficient probable cause for arrest” for the crime of opposing the First World War. In 1920, Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer conducted a massive program in 33 cities and rounded up over 10,000 people. The Church Committee report (p.384) talks of “the abuses of due process of law incident to the raids.” According to Robert Preston (Aliens And Dissenters), the Palmer Raids involved “indiscriminate arrests of the innocent with the guilty, unlawful seizures by federal detectives” and other violations of constitutional rights. The Church Committee (p.385) “found federal agents guilty of using third-degree tortures, making illegal searches and arrests, using agents provocateurs.” Palmer and Hoover found no evidence of a proposed Bolshevik revolution as they claimed but a large number of the rounded up suspects continued to be held without trial. The Seco

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      Cass Sunstein’s white paper, entitled “Conspiracy Theories,” is an exclamation point in the latest chapter of a long history of government tyranny against citizens who organize in opposition to the government. Sunstein argues that individuals and groups deviating from the official government narrative on a number of political issues and events are a national security threat. The administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs formulates “a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy,” writes Paul Joseph Watson. Sunstein’s plan is a reformulation of a long-standing effort to subvert the First Amendment and the Bill of Rights. Concerted government attacks against organized political opposition began soon after the founding of the republic — specifically with the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts in 1798 by the Federalists — but have gained critical momentum in the modern era. During the First World War, the government created the Bureau of Investigation, predecessor to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and appointed J. Edgar Hoover as its head. Hoover’s Bureau of Investigation, with the assistance of police and the military — described as a “citizens auxiliary” — conducted mass raids against the anti-war movement of the time, according to documents released by the Church Committee in the 1970s. The Bureau, specifically designed as a national political police force, “rounded up some 50,000 men without warrants of sufficient probable cause for arrest” for the crime of opposing the First World War. In 1920, Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer conducted a massive program in 33 cities and rounded up over 10,000 people. The Church Committee report (p.384) talks of “the abuses of due process of law incident to the raids.” According to Robert Preston (Aliens And Dissenters), the Palmer Raids involved “indiscriminate arrests of the innocent with the guilty, unlawful seizures by federal detectives” and other violations of constitutional rights. The Church Committee (p.385) “found federal agents guilty of using third-degree tortures, making illegal searches and arrests, using agents provocateurs.” Palmer and Hoover found no evidence of a proposed Bolshevik revolution as they claimed but a large number of the rounded up suspects continued to be held without trial. The Seco

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        Cass Sunstein’s white paper, entitled “Conspiracy Theories,” is an exclamation point in the latest chapter of a long history of government tyranny against citizens who organize in opposition to the government. Sunstein argues that individuals and groups deviating from the official government narrative on a number of political issues and events are a national security threat. The administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs formulates “a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy,” writes Paul Joseph Watson. Sunstein’s plan is a reformulation of a long-standing effort to subvert the First Amendment and the Bill of Rights. Concerted government attacks against organized political opposition began soon after the founding of the republic — specifically with the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts in 1798 by the Federalists — but have gained critical momentum in the modern era. During the First World War, the government created the Bureau of Investigation, predecessor to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and appointed J. Edgar Hoover as its head. Hoover’s Bureau of Investigation, with the assistance of police and the military — described as a “citizens auxiliary” — conducted mass raids against the anti-war movement of the time, according to documents released by the Church Committee in the 1970s. The Bureau, specifically designed as a national political police force, “rounded up some 50,000 men without warrants of sufficient probable cause for arrest” for the crime of opposing the First World War. In 1920, Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer conducted a massive program in 33 cities and rounded up over 10,000 people. The Church Committee report (p.384) talks of “the abuses of due process of law incident to the raids.” According to Robert Preston (Aliens And Dissenters), the Palmer Raids involved “indiscriminate arrests of the innocent with the guilty, unlawful seizures by federal detectives” and other violations of constitutional rights. The Church Committee (p.385) “found federal agents guilty of using third-degree tortures, making illegal searches and arrests, using agents provocateurs.” Palmer and Hoover found no evidence of a proposed Bolshevik revolution as they claimed but a large number of the rounded up suspects continued to be held without trial. The Seco

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          Why are you back? You said you where leaving?!

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              Cass Sunstein’s white paper, entitled “Conspiracy Theories,” is an exclamation point in the latest chapter of a long history of government tyranny against citizens who organize in opposition to the government. Sunstein argues that individuals and groups deviating from the official government narrative on a number of political issues and events are a national security threat. The administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs formulates “a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy,” writes Paul Joseph Watson. Sunstein’s plan is a reformulation of a long-standing effort to subvert the First Amendment and the Bill of Rights. Concerted government attacks against organized political opposition began soon after the founding of the republic — specifically with the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts in 1798 by the Federalists — but have gained critical momentum in the modern era. During the First World War, the government created the Bureau of Investigation, predecessor to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and appointed J. Edgar Hoover as its head. Hoover’s Bureau of Investigation, with the assistance of police and the military — described as a “citizens auxiliary” — conducted mass raids against the anti-war movement of the time, according to documents released by the Church Committee in the 1970s. The Bureau, specifically designed as a national political police force, “rounded up some 50,000 men without warrants of sufficient probable cause for arrest” for the crime of opposing the First World War. In 1920, Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer conducted a massive program in 33 cities and rounded up over 10,000 people. The Church Committee report (p.384) talks of “the abuses of due process of law incident to the raids.” According to Robert Preston (Aliens And Dissenters), the Palmer Raids involved “indiscriminate arrests of the innocent with the guilty, unlawful seizures by federal detectives” and other violations of constitutional rights. The Church Committee (p.385) “found federal agents guilty of using third-degree tortures, making illegal searches and arrests, using agents provocateurs.” Palmer and Hoover found no evidence of a proposed Bolshevik revolution as they claimed but a large number of the rounded up suspects continued to be held without trial. The Seco

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              You haven't read this white paper have you? Read the whole thing and then talk about it. I wouldn't be surprised if this crap comes up on Glenn Beck's show some time soon. He's a bit of a conspiracy theorist too and they both promote buying gold.

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                You haven't read this white paper have you? Read the whole thing and then talk about it. I wouldn't be surprised if this crap comes up on Glenn Beck's show some time soon. He's a bit of a conspiracy theorist too and they both promote buying gold.

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                You are an absolute idiot if you have most of your savings in paper, particularly dollar paper. But the good thing is that the idiots like you will suffer, and I will derive much satisfaction from it.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                  You are an absolute idiot if you have most of your savings in paper, particularly dollar paper. But the good thing is that the idiots like you will suffer, and I will derive much satisfaction from it.

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                  Oh please, it isn't as if you have a bunch of gold sitting in your closet. Everyone uses that paper system because buying up gold is impractical as hell. The government even figured it out...

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                    You are an absolute idiot if you have most of your savings in paper, particularly dollar paper. But the good thing is that the idiots like you will suffer, and I will derive much satisfaction from it.

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                    Thanks for proving my point and not answering my question. I work for living, and thus eat because of it. By the way I'd like a large meat lover's pizza and a 2 liter bottle of Dr. Pepper; oh wait, I'd have to give you my address for that delivery. Never mind.

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                      Oh please, it isn't as if you have a bunch of gold sitting in your closet. Everyone uses that paper system because buying up gold is impractical as hell. The government even figured it out...

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                      It could very well be the next bubble to pop and if idiots like him are buying it up, well they're going to get their come up ins. Supposedly China's been stocking up on it. I prefer real wealth like skills, ideas and real work.

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                        Thanks for proving my point and not answering my question. I work for living, and thus eat because of it. By the way I'd like a large meat lover's pizza and a 2 liter bottle of Dr. Pepper; oh wait, I'd have to give you my address for that delivery. Never mind.

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                        wolfbinary wrote:

                        oh wait, I'd have to give you my address for that delivery. Never mind.

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                          It could very well be the next bubble to pop and if idiots like him are buying it up, well they're going to get their come up ins. Supposedly China's been stocking up on it. I prefer real wealth like skills, ideas and real work.

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                          wolfbinary wrote:

                          I prefer real wealth like skills, ideas and real work.

                          How are you going to buy anything with those skills and ideas and willing to work if there is no stable currency to trade with and without a working economy? Real skills are growing your own food and providing your own defense. I suggest you stop being a ninny and actually look at reality. Gold and silver are the only currency that are recognized and accepted anywhere in the world at any time.

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                            wolfbinary wrote:

                            I prefer real wealth like skills, ideas and real work.

                            How are you going to buy anything with those skills and ideas and willing to work if there is no stable currency to trade with and without a working economy? Real skills are growing your own food and providing your own defense. I suggest you stop being a ninny and actually look at reality. Gold and silver are the only currency that are recognized and accepted anywhere in the world at any time.

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            How are you going to buy anything with those skills and ideas and willing to work if there is no stable currency to trade with and without a working economy?

                            You're working under the assumption that we're headed to a Mad Max sort of world. Where do you get that idea from, Pat Robertson and the coming rapture? Can you see the mark of the beast on Obama or something? The world isn't coming to an end economically or otherwise. Calm down, take a breath of your inhaler. You still haven't answered my question about having read the white paper.

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                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              How are you going to buy anything with those skills and ideas and willing to work if there is no stable currency to trade with and without a working economy?

                              You're working under the assumption that we're headed to a Mad Max sort of world. Where do you get that idea from, Pat Robertson and the coming rapture? Can you see the mark of the beast on Obama or something? The world isn't coming to an end economically or otherwise. Calm down, take a breath of your inhaler. You still haven't answered my question about having read the white paper.

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                              History repeats itself. We will see rapid inflation, catastrophic loss of jobs and living standards across the board. Life savings will be lost, social breakdown, tyranny.

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                                History repeats itself. We will see rapid inflation, catastrophic loss of jobs and living standards across the board. Life savings will be lost, social breakdown, tyranny.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                                Over what breadth of history are we talking about here 100 years, 1000 years. So have you read the white paper then?

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                                  Over what breadth of history are we talking about here 100 years, 1000 years. So have you read the white paper then?

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                                    So you don't see things ever getting better, economically speaking that is? Wow, you certainly have a downward look on life. It's a good thing people like you aren't in charge or the world could have very well been in dire straights. Geeez. So have you read that white paper then?

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                                      So you don't see things ever getting better, economically speaking that is? Wow, you certainly have a downward look on life. It's a good thing people like you aren't in charge or the world could have very well been in dire straights. Geeez. So have you read that white paper then?

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                                      wolfbinary wrote:

                                      So you don't see things ever getting better, economically speaking that is?

                                      Not until we extinguish the inherently corrupt power to print money backed by nothing.

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                                        Wait, there was a complete collapse of the market 100 years ago? While we were on the gold standard? Or just after? Oh hey, there wasn't so it doesn't matter. Let me guess, the Great Depression. You know part of that was caused by Britain going BACK to the gold standard, right? The free market system pretty much hosed itself, and Britain decided to be protectionist and went back to gold, kicking other markets in the teeth, add a bad crop situation, and you have a pretty major issue. The fact that bankers hurt the system (sound familiar) and weren't regulated enough (hey, don't you guys hate that word?) meant the economy was being sheparded by the wolves. Market bubbles are soemthing the fed didn't cause and so you can't blame the current problem or Great Depression on them. Even if you blame the Fed for shrinking the money supply during the Great Depression it isn't being done this time. So exactly where are you getting this history lesson?

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                                          Wait, there was a complete collapse of the market 100 years ago? While we were on the gold standard? Or just after? Oh hey, there wasn't so it doesn't matter. Let me guess, the Great Depression. You know part of that was caused by Britain going BACK to the gold standard, right? The free market system pretty much hosed itself, and Britain decided to be protectionist and went back to gold, kicking other markets in the teeth, add a bad crop situation, and you have a pretty major issue. The fact that bankers hurt the system (sound familiar) and weren't regulated enough (hey, don't you guys hate that word?) meant the economy was being sheparded by the wolves. Market bubbles are soemthing the fed didn't cause and so you can't blame the current problem or Great Depression on them. Even if you blame the Fed for shrinking the money supply during the Great Depression it isn't being done this time. So exactly where are you getting this history lesson?

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                                          ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                          Wait, there was a complete collapse of the market 100 years ago?

                                          Yes, in several countries around the world caused by the same style of corruption we face.

                                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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