Domesticated, compartmentalized, ignorant, ninnies...
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The notion that I don't read, can't understand what I'm reading, or believe and obey everything I read or view from a particular source is bogus. I see flaws in everyones logic, most definitely yours and the most of the forum dwellers here, but the folks at inforwars and Ron Paul are really spot on. There just isn't anyone with more precise and correct logic on the most important issues that effect everyone of us.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
You may agree with their viewpoints, but their arguments have been proven illogical, unsourced, and downright lies quite a few times on this forum. And every time that source is proven wrong, you simply ignore the evidence instead of questioning your information. You need to understand that no matter how much you like Alex Jones, he's not always right (In fact, many of us here would argue that he's VERY RARELY right, but that's another issue). Come on... Be an engineer... Be a scientist, even. Question everything. Your own viewpoints as much as those of the opposition. If you make a mistake, admit it, and expect others to do the same. But maybe I'm asking too much...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Hey, easy, Bob. I'm pretty sure josda and PWP aren't the same. I've had some long, drawn-out debates with josda, and some long, drawn-out insult-fests with PWP, and I see three possible conclusions. 1) He's an absolutely amazing actor, to sound so damn stupid when he's on his CSS login. 2) He's a skitzo, giving the same effect as #1. 3) Two completely different people. Seriously, though... I disagree with most of what josda says, but at least the guy can put up a decent argument, unlike the infamous CSS/PWP.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Thanks Ian, at least I have some credibility around here lol I mean, I have a fucking show. That you people can see me on. Why would I put my face on television if I haven't come to some conclusions that I think people should hear? That's my logic lol Hey Ian, how's it going? It's been awhile.
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Thanks Ian, at least I have some credibility around here lol I mean, I have a fucking show. That you people can see me on. Why would I put my face on television if I haven't come to some conclusions that I think people should hear? That's my logic lol Hey Ian, how's it going? It's been awhile.
Going well enough. Just finished the draft of my second novel (Direct sequel), so on track to publish this Spring/Summer... Apart from that, life just keeps on ticking along.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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The notion that I don't read, can't understand what I'm reading, or believe and obey everything I read or view from a particular source is bogus. I see flaws in everyones logic, most definitely yours and the most of the forum dwellers here, but the folks at inforwars and Ron Paul are really spot on. There just isn't anyone with more precise and correct logic on the most important issues that effect everyone of us.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
Just remember: it only took 3% of the population to fight the revolution. The minority may be exactly that, but the truth always reigns. It takes education, not more poor insults. You seriously can't stoop to the level that they're at. You must fight with logic, not inflammatory arguments. Ian and I had that long drawn out two-week argument... but it was clean and logical. If you can prove your point, you can show credibility. They won't write you off. What you did on Christmas was the most braindead and insanely written thing I'd ever seen by an engineer. If you have good intentions, learn the arguments. Learn how to back up your logic, not just write down 2 sentences on how everyone is stupid. I'm trying to continue reading your points, because I agree with your background. But the way you write what you write and the lack of elaboration seriously is a detriment to your cause. Fight the good fight... but fight with knowledge. Not ignorance.
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You may agree with their viewpoints, but their arguments have been proven illogical, unsourced, and downright lies quite a few times on this forum. And every time that source is proven wrong, you simply ignore the evidence instead of questioning your information. You need to understand that no matter how much you like Alex Jones, he's not always right (In fact, many of us here would argue that he's VERY RARELY right, but that's another issue). Come on... Be an engineer... Be a scientist, even. Question everything. Your own viewpoints as much as those of the opposition. If you make a mistake, admit it, and expect others to do the same. But maybe I'm asking too much...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Ian, you are one of the most closed minded people I've ever talked to. Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body, it doesn't mean that the federal reserve system isn't inherently corrupt and illegal, that doesn't mean that the most honest politician we have, Ron Paul, is bad. You don't care that you are live under a totally utterly corrupt, ignorant, sadistic, out of control, power hungry government that completely disregards humans. They believe people are cannon fodder, they only care about wielding power and living like gods.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
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Ian, you are one of the most closed minded people I've ever talked to. Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body, it doesn't mean that the federal reserve system isn't inherently corrupt and illegal, that doesn't mean that the most honest politician we have, Ron Paul, is bad. You don't care that you are live under a totally utterly corrupt, ignorant, sadistic, out of control, power hungry government that completely disregards humans. They believe people are cannon fodder, they only care about wielding power and living like gods.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
*sigh*... You know, I've tried in the past to bring out some common sense in you, but I suppose it just can't be done. Now I see why psychologists are paid so well.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Ian, you are one of the most closed minded people I've ever talked to. Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body, it doesn't mean that the federal reserve system isn't inherently corrupt and illegal, that doesn't mean that the most honest politician we have, Ron Paul, is bad. You don't care that you are live under a totally utterly corrupt, ignorant, sadistic, out of control, power hungry government that completely disregards humans. They believe people are cannon fodder, they only care about wielding power and living like gods.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
CSS: Look. Back up your points. You're not backing up ANY of this. I agree with only PART of this message. And now THAT is an amazing feat.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ian, you are one of the most closed minded people I've ever talked to.
100% disagreed. Plain and simple. That is a very ignorant thing to say, and again, you're destroying the cause that you supposedly back up. YOU are the closed-minded person in this argument.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate
Prove it. Back it up. Where's the stats?! Citation necessary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body
Prove it. Back it up. Newspaper article? Scientific record? Citation necessary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that doesn't mean that the most honest politician we have, Ron Paul, is bad
I don't think that anyone here thinks that Ron Paul is bad (except a select few), but they just don't agree with his stances. Stop taking things out of context. Citation is wholly necessary for this argument.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You don't care that you are live under a totally utterly corrupt, ignorant, sadistic, out of control, power hungry government that completely disregards humans.
If people really thought that this were happening (I do, but you're not helping the cause, as I've stated), then they NECESSARILY would care. It would be directly effecting them (as it does), yet you're not changing anyone's minds by your mindless rambling. BACK IT UP! And NOT JUST WITH ONE SOURCE, which in almost all cases is infowars. YOU need to wake up. Open your mind to ALL sources, not just the one source that says that mass media is corrupt (which it is). Why do I have a show? To spread the word, and explore all ideas in my own way. I'm independent. I'm going to look at all logical arguments.
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*sigh*... You know, I've tried in the past to bring out some common sense in you, but I suppose it just can't be done. Now I see why psychologists are paid so well.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Well, you have to have common sense yourself. Unfortunately common sense is something you lack.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
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CSS: Look. Back up your points. You're not backing up ANY of this. I agree with only PART of this message. And now THAT is an amazing feat.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ian, you are one of the most closed minded people I've ever talked to.
100% disagreed. Plain and simple. That is a very ignorant thing to say, and again, you're destroying the cause that you supposedly back up. YOU are the closed-minded person in this argument.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate
Prove it. Back it up. Where's the stats?! Citation necessary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body
Prove it. Back it up. Newspaper article? Scientific record? Citation necessary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that doesn't mean that the most honest politician we have, Ron Paul, is bad
I don't think that anyone here thinks that Ron Paul is bad (except a select few), but they just don't agree with his stances. Stop taking things out of context. Citation is wholly necessary for this argument.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You don't care that you are live under a totally utterly corrupt, ignorant, sadistic, out of control, power hungry government that completely disregards humans.
If people really thought that this were happening (I do, but you're not helping the cause, as I've stated), then they NECESSARILY would care. It would be directly effecting them (as it does), yet you're not changing anyone's minds by your mindless rambling. BACK IT UP! And NOT JUST WITH ONE SOURCE, which in almost all cases is infowars. YOU need to wake up. Open your mind to ALL sources, not just the one source that says that mass media is corrupt (which it is). Why do I have a show? To spread the word, and explore all ideas in my own way. I'm independent. I'm going to look at all logical arguments.
Oh go fuck yourself. Your show is a bunch of "uhs" and long pauses with no substance.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
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CSS: Look. Back up your points. You're not backing up ANY of this. I agree with only PART of this message. And now THAT is an amazing feat.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ian, you are one of the most closed minded people I've ever talked to.
100% disagreed. Plain and simple. That is a very ignorant thing to say, and again, you're destroying the cause that you supposedly back up. YOU are the closed-minded person in this argument.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate
Prove it. Back it up. Where's the stats?! Citation necessary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body
Prove it. Back it up. Newspaper article? Scientific record? Citation necessary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that doesn't mean that the most honest politician we have, Ron Paul, is bad
I don't think that anyone here thinks that Ron Paul is bad (except a select few), but they just don't agree with his stances. Stop taking things out of context. Citation is wholly necessary for this argument.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You don't care that you are live under a totally utterly corrupt, ignorant, sadistic, out of control, power hungry government that completely disregards humans.
If people really thought that this were happening (I do, but you're not helping the cause, as I've stated), then they NECESSARILY would care. It would be directly effecting them (as it does), yet you're not changing anyone's minds by your mindless rambling. BACK IT UP! And NOT JUST WITH ONE SOURCE, which in almost all cases is infowars. YOU need to wake up. Open your mind to ALL sources, not just the one source that says that mass media is corrupt (which it is). Why do I have a show? To spread the word, and explore all ideas in my own way. I'm independent. I'm going to look at all logical arguments.
josda1000 wrote:
100% disagreed. Plain and simple. That is a very ignorant thing to say, and again, you're destroying the cause that you supposedly back up. YOU are the closed-minded person in this argument.
This right here would be why people have found the black propaganda thing so funny. That, and his complete avoidance of the issue when his own link pretty much burned him.
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CSS: Look. Back up your points. You're not backing up ANY of this. I agree with only PART of this message. And now THAT is an amazing feat.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ian, you are one of the most closed minded people I've ever talked to.
100% disagreed. Plain and simple. That is a very ignorant thing to say, and again, you're destroying the cause that you supposedly back up. YOU are the closed-minded person in this argument.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate
Prove it. Back it up. Where's the stats?! Citation necessary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body
Prove it. Back it up. Newspaper article? Scientific record? Citation necessary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
that doesn't mean that the most honest politician we have, Ron Paul, is bad
I don't think that anyone here thinks that Ron Paul is bad (except a select few), but they just don't agree with his stances. Stop taking things out of context. Citation is wholly necessary for this argument.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You don't care that you are live under a totally utterly corrupt, ignorant, sadistic, out of control, power hungry government that completely disregards humans.
If people really thought that this were happening (I do, but you're not helping the cause, as I've stated), then they NECESSARILY would care. It would be directly effecting them (as it does), yet you're not changing anyone's minds by your mindless rambling. BACK IT UP! And NOT JUST WITH ONE SOURCE, which in almost all cases is infowars. YOU need to wake up. Open your mind to ALL sources, not just the one source that says that mass media is corrupt (which it is). Why do I have a show? To spread the word, and explore all ideas in my own way. I'm independent. I'm going to look at all logical arguments.
josda1000 wrote:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote: that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body Prove it. Back it up. Newspaper article? Scientific record? Citation necessary.
He can't Josh. In fact we pointed out that getting a color picture from something that is inherently not lit is impossible. Color requires light, clothes block light. The next thing shown is the fact that they used simulated pictures and were caught doing it. Heck I pointed out they are legally required to use a pat down if the person refuses to use the machines. At no point did he address this.
josda1000 wrote:
BACK IT UP! And NOT JUST WITH ONE SOURCE, which in almost all cases is infowars. YOU need to wake up. Open your mind to ALL sources, not just the one source that says that mass media is corrupt (which it is). Why do I have a show? To spread the word, and explore all ideas in my own way. I'm independent. I'm going to look at all logical arguments.
I may not agree with you, but I wore a uniform to protect your right to think and say these things. (And this statement I agree with anyway.) Keep doing what you are doing. If you truly do look at stuff from a bunch of views, research and get good data along with using logic, you are doing everyone a favor. I feel like it is unlikely CSS will listen, he never does. In fact when we do hit home with something he can't refute he tends to switch to name calling. His response to you shows this.
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Oh go fuck yourself. Your show is a bunch of "uhs" and long pauses with no substance.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
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I don't know how many times I've been told that I'm CSS. I'm open. I don't make statements that I can't back up. Obviously I'm a programmer, I don't know how naive you have to be to think I'm anything but a programmer or developer or something to this effect. I talk differently than him. I have a damned TELEVISION SHOW. How pathetic do you people really have to be? Look, watch my show and see what you think. http://www.danverstv.org go to Video On Demand at the top. A popup comes up with a video player. Go to Danvers Access Shows, and then find The Currency of Democracy. My name is Josh Davis. I'm not hiding anything, as my "alter ego" does a lot. I don't call anyone names, I just present facts or my personal true opinion. Watch.
josda1000 wrote:
I don't know how many times I've been told that I'm CSS.
If you have been told it three times, it is true[^] (1st 2 verses).
josda1000 wrote:
I don't know how naive you have to be to think I'm anything but a programmer or developer or something to this effect.
Less naive than if I accepted that you were a programmer on your say so.
josda1000 wrote:
I talk differently than him. I have a damned TELEVISION SHOW. How pathetic do you people really have to be? Look, watch my show and see what you think. http://www.danverstv.org go to Video On Demand at the top. A popup comes up with a video player. Go to Danvers Access Shows, and then find The Currency of Democracy. My name is Josh Davis. I'm not hiding anything, as my "alter ego" does a lot. I don't call anyone names, I just present facts or my personal true opinion. Watch.
But none of this proves that you and Private Wee Parts are not the same person. If you are, then you are either: * Giggling at us arguing with your Ali G[^]-like creation, or * Severely deranged.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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josda1000 wrote:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote: that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body Prove it. Back it up. Newspaper article? Scientific record? Citation necessary.
He can't Josh. In fact we pointed out that getting a color picture from something that is inherently not lit is impossible. Color requires light, clothes block light. The next thing shown is the fact that they used simulated pictures and were caught doing it. Heck I pointed out they are legally required to use a pat down if the person refuses to use the machines. At no point did he address this.
josda1000 wrote:
BACK IT UP! And NOT JUST WITH ONE SOURCE, which in almost all cases is infowars. YOU need to wake up. Open your mind to ALL sources, not just the one source that says that mass media is corrupt (which it is). Why do I have a show? To spread the word, and explore all ideas in my own way. I'm independent. I'm going to look at all logical arguments.
I may not agree with you, but I wore a uniform to protect your right to think and say these things. (And this statement I agree with anyway.) Keep doing what you are doing. If you truly do look at stuff from a bunch of views, research and get good data along with using logic, you are doing everyone a favor. I feel like it is unlikely CSS will listen, he never does. In fact when we do hit home with something he can't refute he tends to switch to name calling. His response to you shows this.
Yeah it's quite amazing really. I agree with him, but he's an asshole. He calls me names, says all I do is "uhhh"... well it's better than being a fearmonger. Being too excited about something makes you lose perspective. Cases in point: Jones, Beck, CNN... It's all ridiculous. I may be boring, but at least I have a point. lol So thanks for backing me up, even if you disagree.
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josda1000 wrote:
I don't know how many times I've been told that I'm CSS.
If you have been told it three times, it is true[^] (1st 2 verses).
josda1000 wrote:
I don't know how naive you have to be to think I'm anything but a programmer or developer or something to this effect.
Less naive than if I accepted that you were a programmer on your say so.
josda1000 wrote:
I talk differently than him. I have a damned TELEVISION SHOW. How pathetic do you people really have to be? Look, watch my show and see what you think. http://www.danverstv.org go to Video On Demand at the top. A popup comes up with a video player. Go to Danvers Access Shows, and then find The Currency of Democracy. My name is Josh Davis. I'm not hiding anything, as my "alter ego" does a lot. I don't call anyone names, I just present facts or my personal true opinion. Watch.
But none of this proves that you and Private Wee Parts are not the same person. If you are, then you are either: * Giggling at us arguing with your Ali G[^]-like creation, or * Severely deranged.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
OK now this is just ridiculous. How am I supposed to prove that I'm not him, except for the fact that I'M ARGUING WITH HIM ON THIS VERY THREAD! You've got to be kidding. I don't have time to play your silly games... I've got research to do for the show. I'm on in three hours.
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Yeah it's quite amazing really. I agree with him, but he's an asshole. He calls me names, says all I do is "uhhh"... well it's better than being a fearmonger. Being too excited about something makes you lose perspective. Cases in point: Jones, Beck, CNN... It's all ridiculous. I may be boring, but at least I have a point. lol So thanks for backing me up, even if you disagree.
josda1000 wrote:
So thanks for backing me up, even if you disagree.
Just because I don't agree doesn't mean I won't take away something from a well reasoned argument. Problem with CSS is he debates like one of the jocks in my high school did, he resorts to pretty standard attack methods and practices, can't back up his attacks, nor can he handle losing when you shut him down. The guy actually ended a debate in much the same way as CSS. "Well at least I can get a date for the Prom, loser." Much like CSS the guy didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
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That is what all of you are. You are not men, you are sheep to be herded and slaughtered.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
This from the guy who believes everything he is told by his preferred media, like the full body scanners, and the increase in gun crime in Australia. You are the meekest of sheep, blindly believing, blindly defending anything you are told, so long as the right people say it to you. No matter how utterly you are proven wrong, you continue to fight and argue. You believe that just because something comes from an alternative news source, it MUST be true, and that believing a different lie to most people, makes you an arbiter of hidden truth. In other words, you are insecure, sad and pathetic. That you get your validation from insulting a room full of people who talk to you because we find it funny that you are so pathetic, only proves this point.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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josda1000 wrote:
So thanks for backing me up, even if you disagree.
Just because I don't agree doesn't mean I won't take away something from a well reasoned argument. Problem with CSS is he debates like one of the jocks in my high school did, he resorts to pretty standard attack methods and practices, can't back up his attacks, nor can he handle losing when you shut him down. The guy actually ended a debate in much the same way as CSS. "Well at least I can get a date for the Prom, loser." Much like CSS the guy didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
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OK now this is just ridiculous. How am I supposed to prove that I'm not him, except for the fact that I'M ARGUING WITH HIM ON THIS VERY THREAD! You've got to be kidding. I don't have time to play your silly games... I've got research to do for the show. I'm on in three hours.
'Spot the CSS' is a game on code project because he has posted as so many different people. I suspect he still does it at times. I'm happy to accept that you are probably not CSS, but if people accuse you of being him, it's because of how he has behaved in the past. Fool me once, etc.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Ian, you are one of the most closed minded people I've ever talked to. Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body, it doesn't mean that the federal reserve system isn't inherently corrupt and illegal, that doesn't mean that the most honest politician we have, Ron Paul, is bad. You don't care that you are live under a totally utterly corrupt, ignorant, sadistic, out of control, power hungry government that completely disregards humans. They believe people are cannon fodder, they only care about wielding power and living like gods.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Just because infowars track record is only around 90% accurate that doesn't mean that naked body scanners don't record your naked body,
No, the fact that it's been established that they don't, means they don't. Can you explain the science used to take a body that's covered in clothing, and therefore not exposed to any light, and how one can take a full colour picture of that body under those circumstances ? Can you explain why the extra money would be spent to make that possible, as opposed to a photo that gives an outline and would show objects hidden under your clothing ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.