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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Ok... Writing this as I watch Obama speaking... A few surprises so far (Not entirely in order, as I started this post 15 minutes into the speech)... Note: This is becoming a long post... So might not want to try to debate everything in the same post :) 1) He's pushing more tax cuts on small businesses 2) He's going to attack outsourcing, removing tax breaks on it 3) He's pushing for more nuclear plants, more offshore drilling, and more incentives for clean energy 4) He indirectly called the global warming skeptics a bunch of idiots. (I love that one :) ) 5) Government work program... Building infrastructure 6) Going to try to collect fees from Wall Street to pay back the rest of the bailout, but did not mention the plan to split commercial and investment banks. (Paraphrased: "If they can afford to pay out record bonuses, they can afford to pay back the taxpayers") 7) Pushing for more education... Primary, secondary, and community colleges. Plans to pay for that by completely revamping student loans 8) He pushed the health care bill, of course... Nothing new there, but he's preaching compromise instead of "Just shut up and pass it" 9) He blamed most of the deficit on Dubya, but took responsibility for increasing instead of decreasing it. He promised to cut federal spending (Excluding military, social security, medicare/medicaid, welfare)... But not starting until 2011. 10) He will NOT extend the Bush tax cuts on oil companies, big wall street firms, and upper class ($250k+ income) 11) He's going to override a recent senate downvote with an executive order... I missed the details (Was typing), but it had something to do with a commission to find ways to reduce spending. 12) Pushing for more transparency, less power to lobbyists. Plans to limit political contributions from lobbyists, disclose their clients, etc. Encouraging more campaign funding from individuals and less from corporations. 13) Insulted the partisan politics... Yelled at both parties for the typical "I'll vote for this if you do X for me" tactics. Called out the republicans directly for filibustering everything. 14) Talked about defending the nation (From terrorism)... More security, more security cooperation between governments... More troops in Afghanistan, but said we're pulling out starting in July 2011. Said we're getting the hell out of Iraq by the end of this August (100% withdrawal). 15) More support for returning combat veterans and their families 16) "Invoked" Kennedy and Reagan in tal

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    Here weak minded Ian. Since you are so dazzled by obama, I thought I will like to break your chains by showing you this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX7wa4mzyo#t=2m47s[^] What he means is that he wants the federal reserve to be as powerful and inflationary as it needs to be. Understand? When he says easy credit bu channeling people's savings to invest will create jobs and raise income, he means he wants to print/create tons of new money (stealing people's savings) to spend how he wants, expanding government, and debasing of the currency. Capeesh you brainwashed sheep? Oh, and he did a little shoveling hand gester toward himself when he said "channeling people's savings". The average yuppie will be giggling and and thinking how great government is by his bologna. Its like magic to them. Oh, and Ian, when he spoke about the "climate bill", nobody could keep a strait face we he said the evidence of climate change is overwhelming. The whole crowd laughed, and obama did a little snort. They can't even keep a strait face with that lie.

    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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      Here weak minded Ian. Since you are so dazzled by obama, I thought I will like to break your chains by showing you this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX7wa4mzyo#t=2m47s[^] What he means is that he wants the federal reserve to be as powerful and inflationary as it needs to be. Understand? When he says easy credit bu channeling people's savings to invest will create jobs and raise income, he means he wants to print/create tons of new money (stealing people's savings) to spend how he wants, expanding government, and debasing of the currency. Capeesh you brainwashed sheep? Oh, and he did a little shoveling hand gester toward himself when he said "channeling people's savings". The average yuppie will be giggling and and thinking how great government is by his bologna. Its like magic to them. Oh, and Ian, when he spoke about the "climate bill", nobody could keep a strait face we he said the evidence of climate change is overwhelming. The whole crowd laughed, and obama did a little snort. They can't even keep a strait face with that lie.

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

      modified on Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:10 AM

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      Corporal Agarn
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      I think Ian stated what was said without too many comments. President Obama is a politician so of course he lies. The interesting thing in the list Ian gave us is that he is now for things Demarcates are against. If only politics could be taken out of politics.

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        Here weak minded Ian. Since you are so dazzled by obama, I thought I will like to break your chains by showing you this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX7wa4mzyo#t=2m47s[^] What he means is that he wants the federal reserve to be as powerful and inflationary as it needs to be. Understand? When he says easy credit bu channeling people's savings to invest will create jobs and raise income, he means he wants to print/create tons of new money (stealing people's savings) to spend how he wants, expanding government, and debasing of the currency. Capeesh you brainwashed sheep? Oh, and he did a little shoveling hand gester toward himself when he said "channeling people's savings". The average yuppie will be giggling and and thinking how great government is by his bologna. Its like magic to them. Oh, and Ian, when he spoke about the "climate bill", nobody could keep a strait face we he said the evidence of climate change is overwhelming. The whole crowd laughed, and obama did a little snort. They can't even keep a strait face with that lie.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

        modified on Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:10 AM

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        Wee Parts, you have successfully brought me down to your level. Here goes; You are an idiot. Not the normal kind, mind you. Not the ones that either by nature or nurture find themselves in a posision of intellectual inferiority, oh no. You are a deliberate idiot. You are confrontational and, oddly enough for someone without a single opinion of their own, argumentative. You are, in the words of the Dice Man, a load that should have been swallowed. Your idea of what forming an opinion comprises of seems to follow a rather stringent formulae: 1) Find clip of sheepman with agenda on youtube, 2) Create post on CodeProject containing an inflammatory headline, a link to the youtube clip, and my signature, 3) Make personal attacks at anyone that proves me wrong (read: EVERYONE). You have always come off as one of those "Yes to No, Away with Gone, and the President be Doomed" kind of characters. I have met people like you before, and I usually make them cry before the conversation is over. DOesn't take too much effort on my part, as you guys generally are weak in both mind and spirit. That's usually what makes you so easy to brainwash to begin with; your brains are virtually virgin to begin with. You feeble minded dipshit, why don't you just crawl back under whatever rock you came out from. //L

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          Here weak minded Ian. Since you are so dazzled by obama, I thought I will like to break your chains by showing you this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX7wa4mzyo#t=2m47s[^] What he means is that he wants the federal reserve to be as powerful and inflationary as it needs to be. Understand? When he says easy credit bu channeling people's savings to invest will create jobs and raise income, he means he wants to print/create tons of new money (stealing people's savings) to spend how he wants, expanding government, and debasing of the currency. Capeesh you brainwashed sheep? Oh, and he did a little shoveling hand gester toward himself when he said "channeling people's savings". The average yuppie will be giggling and and thinking how great government is by his bologna. Its like magic to them. Oh, and Ian, when he spoke about the "climate bill", nobody could keep a strait face we he said the evidence of climate change is overwhelming. The whole crowd laughed, and obama did a little snort. They can't even keep a strait face with that lie.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

          modified on Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:10 AM

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          I find your post amusing... Particularly since I wasn't posting in support of Obama, or in opposition to him. I'm merely reporting on what he discussed in the speech, to provoke some discussion on the various points. Whether you like him or not, he's the President, which means what he says in his State of the Union affects the country, positively or negatively. That makes the speech significant. If you want to discuss the points logically, feel free to do so, but your insults are a real waste. Back in your cage, kiddo.

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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            Here weak minded Ian. Since you are so dazzled by obama, I thought I will like to break your chains by showing you this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX7wa4mzyo#t=2m47s[^] What he means is that he wants the federal reserve to be as powerful and inflationary as it needs to be. Understand? When he says easy credit bu channeling people's savings to invest will create jobs and raise income, he means he wants to print/create tons of new money (stealing people's savings) to spend how he wants, expanding government, and debasing of the currency. Capeesh you brainwashed sheep? Oh, and he did a little shoveling hand gester toward himself when he said "channeling people's savings". The average yuppie will be giggling and and thinking how great government is by his bologna. Its like magic to them. Oh, and Ian, when he spoke about the "climate bill", nobody could keep a strait face we he said the evidence of climate change is overwhelming. The whole crowd laughed, and obama did a little snort. They can't even keep a strait face with that lie.

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

            modified on Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:10 AM

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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            Since you are so dazzled by obama, I thought I will like to break your chains by showing you this.

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That was funny. The mighty CSS breaking the chains of oppression with a youtube link! Uncle Alex did a better job brainwashing you than anyone did on Ian.

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              Wee Parts, you have successfully brought me down to your level. Here goes; You are an idiot. Not the normal kind, mind you. Not the ones that either by nature or nurture find themselves in a posision of intellectual inferiority, oh no. You are a deliberate idiot. You are confrontational and, oddly enough for someone without a single opinion of their own, argumentative. You are, in the words of the Dice Man, a load that should have been swallowed. Your idea of what forming an opinion comprises of seems to follow a rather stringent formulae: 1) Find clip of sheepman with agenda on youtube, 2) Create post on CodeProject containing an inflammatory headline, a link to the youtube clip, and my signature, 3) Make personal attacks at anyone that proves me wrong (read: EVERYONE). You have always come off as one of those "Yes to No, Away with Gone, and the President be Doomed" kind of characters. I have met people like you before, and I usually make them cry before the conversation is over. DOesn't take too much effort on my part, as you guys generally are weak in both mind and spirit. That's usually what makes you so easy to brainwash to begin with; your brains are virtually virgin to begin with. You feeble minded dipshit, why don't you just crawl back under whatever rock you came out from. //L

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              Meh, you are one of those dipshit obama yuppies. That is why you were so greatly offended by me disassembling Obama's word tricks that make you smile and drool at the mouth.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                Wee Parts, you have successfully brought me down to your level. Here goes; You are an idiot. Not the normal kind, mind you. Not the ones that either by nature or nurture find themselves in a posision of intellectual inferiority, oh no. You are a deliberate idiot. You are confrontational and, oddly enough for someone without a single opinion of their own, argumentative. You are, in the words of the Dice Man, a load that should have been swallowed. Your idea of what forming an opinion comprises of seems to follow a rather stringent formulae: 1) Find clip of sheepman with agenda on youtube, 2) Create post on CodeProject containing an inflammatory headline, a link to the youtube clip, and my signature, 3) Make personal attacks at anyone that proves me wrong (read: EVERYONE). You have always come off as one of those "Yes to No, Away with Gone, and the President be Doomed" kind of characters. I have met people like you before, and I usually make them cry before the conversation is over. DOesn't take too much effort on my part, as you guys generally are weak in both mind and spirit. That's usually what makes you so easy to brainwash to begin with; your brains are virtually virgin to begin with. You feeble minded dipshit, why don't you just crawl back under whatever rock you came out from. //L

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                Christian Graus
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                Oh, please, SOMEONE give me a five, or three.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Meh, you are one of those dipshit obama yuppies. That is why you were so greatly offended by me disassembling Obama's word tricks that make you smile and drool at the mouth.

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  CSS, we know you hate everyone who isn't a Libertarian. We get it. We just don't care.

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    CSS, we know you hate everyone who isn't a Libertarian. We get it. We just don't care.

                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                    I'm afraid its a bit more complex than that. You and your types are brainwashed sheep. You are a yuppie. Your type is dangerous to this country, because you are so easily influenced by magic words of a politician. You are indoctrinated into a cult of personality, you feel powerful because the government is powerful, your leader is powerful and the emperor has no cloths.

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                      I'm afraid its a bit more complex than that. You and your types are brainwashed sheep. You are a yuppie. Your type is dangerous to this country, because you are so easily influenced by magic words of a politician. You are indoctrinated into a cult of personality, you feel powerful because the government is powerful, your leader is powerful and the emperor has no cloths.

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      You and your types are brainwashed sheep

                      Listening to political statements, analyzing them for correctness, and making my own decision about them... Makes me a brainwashed sheep? Wow. I guess I should do the opposite and just believe everything Alex Jones says, huh?

                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      You are a yuppie.

                      Wikipedia: Yuppie (short for "young urban professional" or "young upwardly-mobile professional")[1] is a 1980s and early 1990s term for financially secure, upper-middle class young people in their 20s and early 30s.[2] Correct.

                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      Your type is dangerous to this country, because you are so easily influenced by magic words of a politician.

                      Listening to a speech doesn't mean I agree with it, any more than reading an article on InfoWars would make me agree with that. My original post was a summary of what Obama talked about, not an analysis (Was too busy watching the speech to write out an analysis).

                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      You are indoctrinated into a cult of personality, you feel powerful because the government is powerful, your leader is powerful

                      I feel powerful because I consider myself to be a capable, free-thinking individual, living in a country that gives me the opportunity to succeed (Though not the promise of success). Obama may be a leader, but he's also our employee. We hired him to do the job for four years, and I think he's doing an acceptable (Not an excellent) job of coping with a tough situation. Granted, he's going to have to work harder if he wants to earn a year-end bonus, but I think we can invite him to the holiday party.

                      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        You and your types are brainwashed sheep

                        Listening to political statements, analyzing them for correctness, and making my own decision about them... Makes me a brainwashed sheep? Wow. I guess I should do the opposite and just believe everything Alex Jones says, huh?

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        You are a yuppie.

                        Wikipedia: Yuppie (short for "young urban professional" or "young upwardly-mobile professional")[1] is a 1980s and early 1990s term for financially secure, upper-middle class young people in their 20s and early 30s.[2] Correct.

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        Your type is dangerous to this country, because you are so easily influenced by magic words of a politician.

                        Listening to a speech doesn't mean I agree with it, any more than reading an article on InfoWars would make me agree with that. My original post was a summary of what Obama talked about, not an analysis (Was too busy watching the speech to write out an analysis).

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        You are indoctrinated into a cult of personality, you feel powerful because the government is powerful, your leader is powerful

                        I feel powerful because I consider myself to be a capable, free-thinking individual, living in a country that gives me the opportunity to succeed (Though not the promise of success). Obama may be a leader, but he's also our employee. We hired him to do the job for four years, and I think he's doing an acceptable (Not an excellent) job of coping with a tough situation. Granted, he's going to have to work harder if he wants to earn a year-end bonus, but I think we can invite him to the holiday party.

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        We hired him to do the job for four years, and I think he's doing an acceptable (Not an excellent) job of coping with a tough situation

                        Only because you get quick cash at the expense of American taxpayers, and the future generations.

                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          We hired him to do the job for four years, and I think he's doing an acceptable (Not an excellent) job of coping with a tough situation

                          Only because you get quick cash at the expense of American taxpayers, and the future generations.

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          Do I? My company didn't receive a bailout. Not a single penny. I didn't get any tax breaks, and I'm paying a higher tax rate than probably 95% of the country, living in the heart of New York City. No, I didn't get any "quick cash." If that's the best insult you can manage, I'm not impressed.

                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                            You are an idiot.   I am not a blind Obama fan, but it's clear that it's irrelevant what he does, you will be against it.   So you think that poor people are better off with no access to education ? Really ? How has it worked out for you ?

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            My 7 year-old daughter has the same problem. What-ever she is told is obviously wrong. We have dealt with her by saying 'Do not eat your supper', 'stay up all night', 'leave your room in a mess', etc. And because she has no real experience to comprehend what is being said, she just blindly disagrees and eats her supper, goes to bed and tidies her room. Now all we need to do is get the President to say the opposite of what he wants and he'll get the whole CSS team on board.


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                              Do I? My company didn't receive a bailout. Not a single penny. I didn't get any tax breaks, and I'm paying a higher tax rate than probably 95% of the country, living in the heart of New York City. No, I didn't get any "quick cash." If that's the best insult you can manage, I'm not impressed.

                              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                              Ian, we should just surrender our weapons. This child will always think he's correct, no matter how overwhelming the proof to the contrary. I must admit though, he's gotten under my skin. He irks me royally, if nothing else because of his relentless insistence when it comes to spewing out crap like he does trying to pass it off as Truth. I wish him a traffic accident. //L

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                                Oh, please, SOMEONE give me a five, or three.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                I thank you humbly, the sentiment is well appreciated. :) //L

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