Climategate scientists above the law.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246661/New-scandal-Climate-Gate-scientists-accused-hiding-data-global-warming-sceptics.html[^] Scientist at the heart of the 'Climategate' email scandal broke the law when they refused to give raw data to the public, the privacy watchdog has ruled. The Information Commissioner's office said University of East Anglia researchers breached the Freedom of Information Act when handling requests from climate change sceptics. But the scientists will escape prosecution because the offences took place more than six months ago. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246661/New-scandal-Climate-Gate-scientists-accused-hiding-data-global-warming-sceptics.html#ixzz0e1bueXGH THIS MAKES ME SICK!!!:mad::mad: THAT LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
THIS MAKES ME SICK!!! THAT LITTLE PIECE OF sh*t NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
And these rational responses are what make you so special private. But really, from the emails they were sending around it was mostly a 'oh, you call me an ass and want my research, how about no?' reaction from the scientists. Funny how people misplace such requests when you call for them to be horribly beaten and raped.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
THIS MAKES ME SICK!!! THAT LITTLE PIECE OF sh*t NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
And these rational responses are what make you so special private. But really, from the emails they were sending around it was mostly a 'oh, you call me an ass and want my research, how about no?' reaction from the scientists. Funny how people misplace such requests when you call for them to be horribly beaten and raped.
They are criminals who engaged in mass fraud. They need to be prosecuted.
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They are criminals who engaged in mass fraud. They need to be prosecuted.
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Mass fraud, by not releasing a small amount of information directly to people who make a habit of screaming at them, when they generally release it elsewhere that the screaming idiots could have found it if they looked?
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Please, detail this mass fraud, of which you take petty personal vendettas as absolute proof of.
Scientists, UN, government "OH MY GOD THE EARTH IS WARMING WE MUST CRACK DOWN WITH TAXES AND INTERNATIONAL GOVERNANCE, BE SCARED, VERY SCARED, YOU CHILDREN WILL DIE, GIVE US MORE POWER TO TAKE THESE EXTREMIST STEPS TO SAVE YOU!!! HERE IS THE FAKE DATA WE MADE UP THAT PROVES THAT WE NEED TO DEPOPULATE THE PLANET TO SAVE MOTHER EARTH"
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Please, detail this mass fraud, of which you take petty personal vendettas as absolute proof of.
Que post from some website that never bothered to actually read all the e-mails. The websites that did read it point out that these guys "talked about doing it and were pretty pissed at the people" but eventually the data was released. But oh darn, some scientists constantly bombarded with FOIA requests designed to make them not be able to do their work got mad about being attacked.
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Que post from some website that never bothered to actually read all the e-mails. The websites that did read it point out that these guys "talked about doing it and were pretty pissed at the people" but eventually the data was released. But oh darn, some scientists constantly bombarded with FOIA requests designed to make them not be able to do their work got mad about being attacked.
I always laugh at that... It's like some script kiddies DoS'ing a web server, then complaining that it's running slowly.
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Scientists, UN, government "OH MY GOD THE EARTH IS WARMING WE MUST CRACK DOWN WITH TAXES AND INTERNATIONAL GOVERNANCE, BE SCARED, VERY SCARED, YOU CHILDREN WILL DIE, GIVE US MORE POWER TO TAKE THESE EXTREMIST STEPS TO SAVE YOU!!! HERE IS THE FAKE DATA WE MADE UP THAT PROVES THAT WE NEED TO DEPOPULATE THE PLANET TO SAVE MOTHER EARTH"
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Ahuh, Which is why I'm so terrified that the day after tomorrow we'll all die horribly, and how I totally love Al Gore and want to have his kids, and how on top of that I never once questioned or investigated the scientific principles and data behind the claims. Or you could be a complete fucking idiot with no applicable knowledge, or ability to reason.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246661/New-scandal-Climate-Gate-scientists-accused-hiding-data-global-warming-sceptics.html[^] Scientist at the heart of the 'Climategate' email scandal broke the law when they refused to give raw data to the public, the privacy watchdog has ruled. The Information Commissioner's office said University of East Anglia researchers breached the Freedom of Information Act when handling requests from climate change sceptics. But the scientists will escape prosecution because the offences took place more than six months ago. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246661/New-scandal-Climate-Gate-scientists-accused-hiding-data-global-warming-sceptics.html#ixzz0e1bueXGH THIS MAKES ME SICK!!!:mad::mad: THAT LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
THAT LITTLE PIECE OF sh*t NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
withholding data from people who are making it their goal to undermine and destroy your lifes work. Certainly a crime that deserves the most brutal of punishments......
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
THAT LITTLE PIECE OF sh*t NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
withholding data from people who are making it their goal to undermine and destroy your lifes work. Certainly a crime that deserves the most brutal of punishments......
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
He broke the law, he engaged in fraud, and his life's work is pure evil.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
THAT LITTLE PIECE OF sh*t NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
withholding data from people who are making it their goal to undermine and destroy your lifes work. Certainly a crime that deserves the most brutal of punishments......
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
So you're saying that "ignorance is bliss"? "Information is the currency of democracy." -- Thomas Jefferson It's the name of my show for a reason. There are regulations on the government to keep records and lists and files for whatever they do, no matter what. If any information is held, it as, at the very least, dishonest, and it should be researched and investigated. Because there's no telling what that information could be. I think you'd agree with this.
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So you're saying that "ignorance is bliss"? "Information is the currency of democracy." -- Thomas Jefferson It's the name of my show for a reason. There are regulations on the government to keep records and lists and files for whatever they do, no matter what. If any information is held, it as, at the very least, dishonest, and it should be researched and investigated. Because there's no telling what that information could be. I think you'd agree with this.
If they actually withheld it, I agree... But look at ragnaroknrol's post above: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3349742/Re-Climategate-scientists-above-the-law.aspx[^] If that's true, and they actually DID release it (While complaining privately - Or what was supposed to be privately until they were hacked) within the FOIA-mandated time limit, whatever that may be, then I see no issue.
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So you're saying that "ignorance is bliss"? "Information is the currency of democracy." -- Thomas Jefferson It's the name of my show for a reason. There are regulations on the government to keep records and lists and files for whatever they do, no matter what. If any information is held, it as, at the very least, dishonest, and it should be researched and investigated. Because there's no telling what that information could be. I think you'd agree with this.
josda1000 wrote:
So you're saying that "ignorance is bliss"?
Yes, he is very good at doublethink. He is the doublethinker's doublethinker.
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He broke the law, he engaged in fraud, and his life's work is pure evil.
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I am sorry I missed this reply at the time, but take comfort in the fact that you said nothing intelligent or worth responding to, anyhow. Science is pure evil ? Do you burn books, too ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So you're saying that "ignorance is bliss"? "Information is the currency of democracy." -- Thomas Jefferson It's the name of my show for a reason. There are regulations on the government to keep records and lists and files for whatever they do, no matter what. If any information is held, it as, at the very least, dishonest, and it should be researched and investigated. Because there's no telling what that information could be. I think you'd agree with this.
The issue is entirely that CSS is reading people who are lying about what happened.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246661/New-scandal-Climate-Gate-scientists-accused-hiding-data-global-warming-sceptics.html[^] Scientist at the heart of the 'Climategate' email scandal broke the law when they refused to give raw data to the public, the privacy watchdog has ruled. The Information Commissioner's office said University of East Anglia researchers breached the Freedom of Information Act when handling requests from climate change sceptics. But the scientists will escape prosecution because the offences took place more than six months ago. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246661/New-scandal-Climate-Gate-scientists-accused-hiding-data-global-warming-sceptics.html#ixzz0e1bueXGH THIS MAKES ME SICK!!!:mad::mad: THAT LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
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Climategate scientists above the law. No, they are not. They are merely beyond the law because of the six month limitation. Only Lizzie Windsor is above the law.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
THIS MAKES ME SICK!!! THAT LITTLE PIECE OF sh*t NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
"À bas les aristos!" The mob has spoken. You have Mann. Go get him.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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They are criminals who engaged in mass fraud. They need to be prosecuted.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They are criminals who engaged in mass fraud. They need to be prosecuted.
They will only be criminals when they have been found guilty of a crime. You must press the relevant authorities to prosecute. Do something! Posting here will not change anything.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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Mass fraud, by not releasing a small amount of information directly to people who make a habit of screaming at them, when they generally release it elsewhere that the screaming idiots could have found it if they looked?
The UEA data was not "a small amount of information". Data did make a brief, accidental, appearance on the Real Climate site, and was duly downloaded and used by the 'sceptics'. However, they had no way of knowing whether this data was kosher, and UEA were not forthcoming. And, although following the methodology published by Jones, et al, the sceptics could not reproduce their results. Hence the reasonable request for the actual data set used in the paper, together with the programs used to process that data. (My opinion is that version control was unknown to climatologists, and that the data set and programs had 'moved on' since publication. Hence the panic.) Characterising all those who wish to check the working as "screaming idiots" is unfair, there are serious scientists among them.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
THAT LITTLE PIECE OF sh*t NEEDS TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON WHERE HE WILL GET RAPED AND BRUTALLY BEATEN LIKE A BITCH
withholding data from people who are making it their goal to undermine and destroy your lifes work. Certainly a crime that deserves the most brutal of punishments......
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
withholding data
Illegally withholding data.
Christian Graus wrote:
from people who are making it their goal to undermine and destroy your lifes work
And if your data and processing are valid, how can they undermine and destroy your life's work? And if your life's work is based on a misconception? Is it not best undermined and destroyed? Anyway, my life's work has been destroyed over time. Dear dead systems, with such flair, too. What's become of all the code, Used to hang and cause disruption? I feel chilly and grown old. as Browning might have written.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos