Shadow Government
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Jeffrey reveals the biblical description of Satans global conquest and identifies the tools of technology that the Antichrist will use to rule the world.
Wow - so now you believe in the antichrist, and Satan. If you were remotely intelligent, I'd offer to prove that these ideas are based on a shallow and ignorant reading of the bible. As it stands, I want to know when you became part of the religious right ?
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It is none of that CG, there is rather more a simple answer ... he saw the advert for the film via Alex Jones's on-line store [^] now whether be bought a copy or not ... well, who cares how he squanders or wastes his money, or even how (or why) he wastes his entire joyless life.
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And yet, Grant Jeffrey tells all and lives. Tremble at the might of the NWO!
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
He is probably put on a watch list somewhere. Its an incremental process. They already have their surveillance police state.
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Of course you would say that evil does not exist, because you are evil.
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We all know that you revert to insulting me as a way from hiding from answering me. So pretend someone else asked it. A random stranger. How would you respond if someone other than me asked when you started to believe in the AntiChrist ? You do realise you're promoting the core doctrine of the mainstream religious right, right ? I mean, you do that when you go on about gun rights, too, but still, this is new for you.
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He is probably put on a watch list somewhere. Its an incremental process. They already have their surveillance police state.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its an incremental process
I told you long ago that your talk of a new world order was a step towards becoming part of the Christian Right Wing, and believing in the antichrist and the tribulation. You laughed at me. Now it seems I am proven right. Do you sit up at night reading the book of Daniel and shivering in fear ? Would you like me to explain it to you ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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He is probably put on a watch list somewhere. Its an incremental process. They already have their surveillance police state.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its an incremental process
I told you long ago that your talk of a new world order was a step towards becoming part of the Christian Right Wing, and believing in the antichrist and the tribulation. You laughed at me. Now it seems I am proven right. Do you sit up at night reading the book of Daniel and shivering in fear ? Would you like me to explain it to you ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I told you long ago that your talk of a new world order was a step towards becoming part of the Christian Right Wing, and believing in the antichrist and the tribulation. You laughed at me. Now it seems I am proven right.
I have always been Christian Right-Wing. Tell me what is wrong with that? The documentary is correct, conservative Christians and the like are being systematically demonized, prostituted, and persecuted. They got us to accept this type of religious persecution with 9/11. Now they are shifting the definition of a terrorist to right-wingers, pro-lifers, gun owners, and Christians. People have become so programmed using the word terrorist that it is like pushing a button on people to make this do what you want. Its a psychological operation. Nothing about those types should bring up images of toothless radicals or whatever the image implanted into everybody through years of propaganda.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I told you long ago that your talk of a new world order was a step towards becoming part of the Christian Right Wing, and believing in the antichrist and the tribulation. You laughed at me. Now it seems I am proven right.
I have always been Christian Right-Wing. Tell me what is wrong with that? The documentary is correct, conservative Christians and the like are being systematically demonized, prostituted, and persecuted. They got us to accept this type of religious persecution with 9/11. Now they are shifting the definition of a terrorist to right-wingers, pro-lifers, gun owners, and Christians. People have become so programmed using the word terrorist that it is like pushing a button on people to make this do what you want. Its a psychological operation. Nothing about those types should bring up images of toothless radicals or whatever the image implanted into everybody through years of propaganda.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I have always been Christian Right-Wing
Really ? You've not indicated that in the past.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The documentary is correct, conservative Christians and the like are being systematically demonized, prostituted, and persecuted.
Rubbish. Where ? In America ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They got us to accept this type of religious persecution with 9/11
Again, where is the correlation ? Do you mean the persecution of Muslims ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Now they are shifting the definition of a terrorist to right-wingers, pro-lifers, gun owners, and Christians
Who is ? Remember, I've been to much of the USA. I've seen no persecution of Christians, even illiterate ones ( that is, ones who believe in a coming great tribulation, world government and antiChrist ). In fact, in Texas, you wouldn't fit in at all if you made clear that you were NOT a Christian, at least in the places I've been. Megachurches on every corner, hard to drive at certain times on sundays and not get caught in traffic jams of people leaving church. They don't appear persecuted to me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People have become so programmed using the word terrorist that it is like pushing a button on people to make this do what you want. Its a psychological operation.
And it's in your head. What I'm interested in discussing, is your Christianity ( so called ). I'd never have guessed from the way that you treat people here, that you claim to follow Christ. How is it manifested in your life ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I have always been Christian Right-Wing
Really ? You've not indicated that in the past.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The documentary is correct, conservative Christians and the like are being systematically demonized, prostituted, and persecuted.
Rubbish. Where ? In America ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They got us to accept this type of religious persecution with 9/11
Again, where is the correlation ? Do you mean the persecution of Muslims ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Now they are shifting the definition of a terrorist to right-wingers, pro-lifers, gun owners, and Christians
Who is ? Remember, I've been to much of the USA. I've seen no persecution of Christians, even illiterate ones ( that is, ones who believe in a coming great tribulation, world government and antiChrist ). In fact, in Texas, you wouldn't fit in at all if you made clear that you were NOT a Christian, at least in the places I've been. Megachurches on every corner, hard to drive at certain times on sundays and not get caught in traffic jams of people leaving church. They don't appear persecuted to me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People have become so programmed using the word terrorist that it is like pushing a button on people to make this do what you want. Its a psychological operation.
And it's in your head. What I'm interested in discussing, is your Christianity ( so called ). I'd never have guessed from the way that you treat people here, that you claim to follow Christ. How is it manifested in your life ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Do you speak like this to your friends and family? Do you have empathy? Can you run a simulation of a scenario and test it? Do your thoughts branch out like a tree and fill in details? Do you think about details at all? It sure doesn't seem like it. What I don't understand is how you can consciously try to maliciously manipulate perspective in a way that is obviously not accounting for 90% of logical thought. You are a manipulator, a deceiver that is knowingly deceives. Perhaps you have no empathy and do not understand human behavior, you believe government to be a computer and life a dream. Modern society is extremely empty, so Government becomes everyone's God. If government says up is down and hot is cold, then people will believe it.
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Do you speak like this to your friends and family? Do you have empathy? Can you run a simulation of a scenario and test it? Do your thoughts branch out like a tree and fill in details? Do you think about details at all? It sure doesn't seem like it. What I don't understand is how you can consciously try to maliciously manipulate perspective in a way that is obviously not accounting for 90% of logical thought. You are a manipulator, a deceiver that is knowingly deceives. Perhaps you have no empathy and do not understand human behavior, you believe government to be a computer and life a dream. Modern society is extremely empty, so Government becomes everyone's God. If government says up is down and hot is cold, then people will believe it.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
Thanks for not answering me. I think it says a lot. My other question is, if there's a Christian right wing, that implies that to be a Christian, one must think everyone deserves a gun. How does that gel with 'turn the other cheek' ?
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Thanks for not answering me. I think it says a lot. My other question is, if there's a Christian right wing, that implies that to be a Christian, one must think everyone deserves a gun. How does that gel with 'turn the other cheek' ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
Thanks for not answering me.
Well, you didn't answer my question.
Christian Graus wrote:
if there's a Christian right wing, that implies that to be a Christian, one must think everyone deserves a gun.
You only deserve a gun if you can build it or earn money to buy it. You have the right to own a gun, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Thanks for not answering me.
Well, you didn't answer my question.
Christian Graus wrote:
if there's a Christian right wing, that implies that to be a Christian, one must think everyone deserves a gun.
You only deserve a gun if you can build it or earn money to buy it. You have the right to own a gun, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, you didn't answer my question.
ROTFL !!! You did what you always do when cornered, you called me names and tried to distract everyone from your unwillingness to answer.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You only deserve a gun if you can build it or earn money to buy it. You have the right to own a gun, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property.
This does not answer me, either. Does this mean that a Christian, by definition, thinks people should have guns ? Am I, in your eyes, plainly not a Christian because I believe in a less confrontational lifestyle than arming myself and blowing away people who get in my way ? Where did Jesus endorse this view ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, you didn't answer my question.
ROTFL !!! You did what you always do when cornered, you called me names and tried to distract everyone from your unwillingness to answer.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You only deserve a gun if you can build it or earn money to buy it. You have the right to own a gun, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property.
This does not answer me, either. Does this mean that a Christian, by definition, thinks people should have guns ? Am I, in your eyes, plainly not a Christian because I believe in a less confrontational lifestyle than arming myself and blowing away people who get in my way ? Where did Jesus endorse this view ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
I believe in a less confrontational lifestyle than arming myself and blowing away people who get in my way
You seem to forget that the police and military use their guns to enforce upon you the will of corrupt politicians. You think that you live in a utopia, just like N. Koreans are forced to believe, just as Stalin and Hitler forced their constituents and dissenters to believe. They use weapons to forcibly dominate you and terminate you existence if their propaganda (mind control) fails to neutralize you.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, you didn't answer my question.
ROTFL !!! You did what you always do when cornered, you called me names and tried to distract everyone from your unwillingness to answer.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You only deserve a gun if you can build it or earn money to buy it. You have the right to own a gun, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property.
This does not answer me, either. Does this mean that a Christian, by definition, thinks people should have guns ? Am I, in your eyes, plainly not a Christian because I believe in a less confrontational lifestyle than arming myself and blowing away people who get in my way ? Where did Jesus endorse this view ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Here is an example of why you are bad. You say that baby credits should be traded on the market, allowing bankers and elite to buy up babies before they are born so they have control over human reproduction in a commercial way and, that allows them to centrally plan the direction of genetics. If you want money and are a women, she can sell her single baby credit. Then she will be sterilized, not able to have a baby. Her right to have a child will be bought by another person who can trade it with sellers Sick, you are lucifarian.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I believe in a less confrontational lifestyle than arming myself and blowing away people who get in my way
You seem to forget that the police and military use their guns to enforce upon you the will of corrupt politicians. You think that you live in a utopia, just like N. Koreans are forced to believe, just as Stalin and Hitler forced their constituents and dissenters to believe. They use weapons to forcibly dominate you and terminate you existence if their propaganda (mind control) fails to neutralize you.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You seem to forget that the police and military use their guns to enforce upon you the will of corrupt politicians.
Only in your dream world. You're moving well past the questions I asked that you've chosen not to answer, but, while our politicians are corrupt, I don't recall the police or military EVER mistreating me or waving a gun in my face, here OR in the USA.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You think that you live in a utopia, just like N. Koreans are forced to believe, just as Stalin and Hitler forced their constituents and dissenters to believe.
You invoke Godwin's law more than anyone I know.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They use weapons to forcibly dominate you and terminate you existence if their propaganda (mind control) fails to neutralize you.
This is yet another sick fantasy, and brings me back to my core question - how is this a Christian world view ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Here is an example of why you are bad. You say that baby credits should be traded on the market, allowing bankers and elite to buy up babies before they are born so they have control over human reproduction in a commercial way and, that allows them to centrally plan the direction of genetics. If you want money and are a women, she can sell her single baby credit. Then she will be sterilized, not able to have a baby. Her right to have a child will be bought by another person who can trade it with sellers Sick, you are lucifarian.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You say that baby credits should be traded on the market, allowing bankers and elite to buy up babies before they are born so they have control over human reproduction in a commercial way and, that allows them to centrally plan the direction of genetics.
Liar.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
hen she will be sterilized, not able to have a baby
Liar
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Sick, you are lucifarian.
And you, sir, are a liar. How does being a compulsive liar reflect the teachings of Christ ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You say that baby credits should be traded on the market, allowing bankers and elite to buy up babies before they are born so they have control over human reproduction in a commercial way and, that allows them to centrally plan the direction of genetics.
Liar.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
hen she will be sterilized, not able to have a baby
Liar
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Sick, you are lucifarian.
And you, sir, are a liar. How does being a compulsive liar reflect the teachings of Christ ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
You are a counterfeit christian who goes around twisting and gnawing on innocence, lusting to make suffer as many as you possibly can for your satisfaction.
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You are a counterfeit christian who goes around twisting and gnawing on innocence, lusting to make suffer as many as you possibly can for your satisfaction.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
Yes, I see the pattern here. You tell lies, and invent a version of me that's easy to cut down, while ignoring me. That's what a straw man is BTW. The fact remains, you are a liar, you just accused me of a number of things that I have never said, and you have no defence but more lies. I don't recall Jesus thinking too much of liars, which sort of comes back to my original question. Bet you don't answer it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Yes, I see the pattern here. You tell lies, and invent a version of me that's easy to cut down, while ignoring me. That's what a straw man is BTW. The fact remains, you are a liar, you just accused me of a number of things that I have never said, and you have no defence but more lies. I don't recall Jesus thinking too much of liars, which sort of comes back to my original question. Bet you don't answer it.
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Christian Graus wrote:
You tell lies, and invent a version of me that's easy to cut down, while ignoring me.
I don't tell lies, I tell you what you have told me about you. You have been on this forum for longer than me, your trail is there for all to see.
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Christian Graus wrote:
You tell lies, and invent a version of me that's easy to cut down, while ignoring me.
I don't tell lies, I tell you what you have told me about you. You have been on this forum for longer than me, your trail is there for all to see.
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Well, I can see how your mental disease has caused you to take what I said, and morph it into what you said, but I never said those things. For the record, while discussing the fact that humans today use 40% of the suns energy ( our only external energy source ) to maintain our current population and way of life, and that, despite your elaborate fantasies, the fact is that the earths resources are finite, and therefore some measures to stop people breeding like rabbits will help to ensure our future survival, I have participated in a thought experiment about the ways that population may be controlled. I stated from the outset that I didn't see my suggestion ever being workable, but that I suggested that all people are given the right to one child, a right that some people could choose to sell directly to people willing to pay to have more than one. I never suggested any bankers get involved, any people be sterilised, or anything remotely related to eugenics. Those are all lies, and you are a liar. Pants on fire. It's a good way to change the subject when I ask questions you're scared to answer, I'll accept that much.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Of course you would say that evil does not exist, because you are evil.
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There's a difference between evil and cartoonish supervillainy. The bible doesn't contain much of the later, at least that's framed as being done by the bad people(though random natives seem to be perfectly fine targets for horrific acts and no one seems to blink an eye). Yet, people ascribe all kinds of such things to the text which aren't actually supported.