Some people need to let it go.
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So it would seem. With his usual flair for hypocrisy, too.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Yea, I have noticed CPian's posts trying to be funny, and not to be a douche. He really is trying, sometimes a bit too hard, but he seems to want to change. Don't get me started on fat_bastard. I love how he keeps trying to ignore the ban in the lounge on obviously political posts. AGW is not going to be anything but a political post the way he goes about it.
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Yeah, sure, like you didnt create an entire thread about him in the Lounge and how bad his behaviour is. And that is why the Loungites vote him 1. You did it, and the loungeites, and wannabes, and suckers up to you and Chris and so on take it upon themselves to chastise him. Its actually quite a disturbing aspect of herd mentality. Find someone to occupy the postion of whipping dog and keep on whipping. Same thing happened with CSS in the SB. And, now to move on to your opinion about me, yes, quite probably self-righteous, most people unless imoral do think they are right, hypocritical, yes, I too feel the herd temptation to take up the whip on occasion, but I try to resist. As for moronic, no, I am not a moron. My IQ is to high to be classified as moronic.
Christian Graus wrote:
when what you're doing is making me YOUR whipping boy, as is your wont
Oh wow. I can see that the unpopularity you generated by insulting people in Oakmans forum has stung. If you put yourself in the potition of being a whipping boy then I cant do much about it. Perhaps drop the personal attacks, and intentional misunderstanding of what people write and you might be a little more popular. That is if you care about popularity.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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fat_boy wrote:
Yeah, sure, like you didnt create an entire thread about him in the Lounge and how bad his behaviour is.
Oh really?[^] This is the only article I can find dealing with a univote in the first 100 pages. I don't recall ANYTHING like that in the lounge by Crhistian prior to this one. Note he wasn't talking about CPian. Let's see how he did react to CPian, shall we? Cheek, turned...[^] He indicates he is willing to give the guy a chance, and it appears that he has. Heck, other folks were making jokes about 1 voting in a thread after that one I just linked. Yes, Christian has harped on him, no doubt. Christian being mean[^] But this is older than that other post. It was before CPian told everyone he would try and fix how he behaves. You know what pisses me off about the Republicans in the US? Their inability to understand that with the current level of tech, every one of their stupid, obnoxious, and transparent lies can not only be disproven, but it can be done in a matter of a few minutes, and with little to no doubt as to what was actually said. You attributed something to Christian that was false, attacked it and made your position seem stronger. You used a strawman. I hate them and everyone here knows I call them out. You do it again with the Oakman comment. I have yet to see Christian univoted by folks based on that event. I see his posts with 5 votes frequently. Acting like he is not well received while your posts are regularly in grey text or simply deleted is attempting to attribute your own situation on another person and then attacking it. I'm calling you out on this one too. The last line is pretty telling in that. You really feel the need to attack someone to be popular, go ahead, but pretty much everyone that read that line suddenly realised what your real beef is. Christian may be a jerk sometimes, destroy any piece of tech that
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I've noticed a certain person with negative reputation has been in the lounge a lot lately. And almost every post is grey. Thing is, he's been trying to change his posts. Very few are whining, very few are attacks, and in fact most of the recent ones have been jokes, jests, poking fun at himself, or in general trying to change to not be a complete douchebag. And they keep 1 voting him. I don't get that. Yes, he has a history of being a twit, I get and understand that, but if his post is not deserving of a 1, he is sincerely trying to change and he is behaving, why give him a 1? I realize people may be expecting him to get stupid later, but for now why not use positive reinforcement to encourage him to keep trying to not be a douche? I may be a post whore, but I try and have fun and hope others do too. If he can change so that people aren't pissed at the universe whenever they see a post from him, why are we not helping him see it is a good thing? anyway /end rant
It's like trusting a drug addict.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Yeah, sure, like you didnt create an entire thread about him in the Lounge and how bad his behaviour is. And that is why the Loungites vote him 1. You did it, and the loungeites, and wannabes, and suckers up to you and Chris and so on take it upon themselves to chastise him. Its actually quite a disturbing aspect of herd mentality. Find someone to occupy the postion of whipping dog and keep on whipping. Same thing happened with CSS in the SB. And, now to move on to your opinion about me, yes, quite probably self-righteous, most people unless imoral do think they are right, hypocritical, yes, I too feel the herd temptation to take up the whip on occasion, but I try to resist. As for moronic, no, I am not a moron. My IQ is to high to be classified as moronic.
Christian Graus wrote:
when what you're doing is making me YOUR whipping boy, as is your wont
Oh wow. I can see that the unpopularity you generated by insulting people in Oakmans forum has stung. If you put yourself in the potition of being a whipping boy then I cant do much about it. Perhaps drop the personal attacks, and intentional misunderstanding of what people write and you might be a little more popular. That is if you care about popularity.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
modified on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:58 AM
If nobody likes you, then whose fault is it?
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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It's like trusting a drug addict.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
With support and hard work, some folks manage to stop being addicts. He's trying to not be a complete jerk, and his posts should be judged on their merits. I don't go downvoting people just because it is them. I do when they post crap.
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With support and hard work, some folks manage to stop being addicts. He's trying to not be a complete jerk, and his posts should be judged on their merits. I don't go downvoting people just because it is them. I do when they post crap.
I don't know the story about this guy, as I've been preoccupied of late. It could be the case that he has been given "a second chance" before. Maybe a third, fourth, fifth, etc. At some point people won't just have it anymore. Such is the case with for instance CSS and fat_boy. They just don't know what social rules are. Even though people tell them they don't want to hear their endless rantings, they just can't stay away. CSS has more manners than fat_boy on this subject, and CSS is a drug head!
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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I've noticed a certain person with negative reputation has been in the lounge a lot lately. And almost every post is grey. Thing is, he's been trying to change his posts. Very few are whining, very few are attacks, and in fact most of the recent ones have been jokes, jests, poking fun at himself, or in general trying to change to not be a complete douchebag. And they keep 1 voting him. I don't get that. Yes, he has a history of being a twit, I get and understand that, but if his post is not deserving of a 1, he is sincerely trying to change and he is behaving, why give him a 1? I realize people may be expecting him to get stupid later, but for now why not use positive reinforcement to encourage him to keep trying to not be a douche? I may be a post whore, but I try and have fun and hope others do too. If he can change so that people aren't pissed at the universe whenever they see a post from him, why are we not helping him see it is a good thing? anyway /end rant
IMHO there are two things: 1. In, CP, you cannot swim upstream. See, I might sound offensive, but one thing that I have noticed is that people are stereotyped here. If I post 10 posts which are against the flow, I will be damned, always. Your user name dominates content of your posts (programming forums excluded). 2. Any post should be treated as an opinion. No matter what link you attach to it, it is an opinion (at least for me). Internet is no way a trustworthy source for controversial things. Be it CSS. Be it CPianism. If those guys are posting something, it is there opinion. You should not try to change it just because you think they are wrong. See, they might be posting crap for ages, but one decent post which just does not states anything stupid does not deserves to be univoted. Believe me if those guys post that "My username is XXX. What do you think? Is it cool?" this will be univoted. For sure. For me, what's wrong in this post?
"No matter how many fish in the sea; it will be so empty without me." - From song "Without me" by Eminem
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fat_boy wrote:
Yeah, sure, like you didnt create an entire thread about him in the Lounge and how bad his behaviour is.
Oh really?[^] This is the only article I can find dealing with a univote in the first 100 pages. I don't recall ANYTHING like that in the lounge by Crhistian prior to this one. Note he wasn't talking about CPian. Let's see how he did react to CPian, shall we? Cheek, turned...[^] He indicates he is willing to give the guy a chance, and it appears that he has. Heck, other folks were making jokes about 1 voting in a thread after that one I just linked. Yes, Christian has harped on him, no doubt. Christian being mean[^] But this is older than that other post. It was before CPian told everyone he would try and fix how he behaves. You know what pisses me off about the Republicans in the US? Their inability to understand that with the current level of tech, every one of their stupid, obnoxious, and transparent lies can not only be disproven, but it can be done in a matter of a few minutes, and with little to no doubt as to what was actually said. You attributed something to Christian that was false, attacked it and made your position seem stronger. You used a strawman. I hate them and everyone here knows I call them out. You do it again with the Oakman comment. I have yet to see Christian univoted by folks based on that event. I see his posts with 5 votes frequently. Acting like he is not well received while your posts are regularly in grey text or simply deleted is attempting to attribute your own situation on another person and then attacking it. I'm calling you out on this one too. The last line is pretty telling in that. You really feel the need to attack someone to be popular, go ahead, but pretty much everyone that read that line suddenly realised what your real beef is. Christian may be a jerk sometimes, destroy any piece of tech that
Actually I thought it was a pretty funny post of mine, and I am sure Christian can see the humour. I think the only person who actually understands my sense of humour is jew_boy. Oh well, such is life. Actually Christian is generally OK, He is boastfull, and he likes to label people, but apart form that he is OK.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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If nobody likes you, then whose fault is it?
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Yea, I have noticed CPian's posts trying to be funny, and not to be a douche. He really is trying, sometimes a bit too hard, but he seems to want to change. Don't get me started on fat_bastard. I love how he keeps trying to ignore the ban in the lounge on obviously political posts. AGW is not going to be anything but a political post the way he goes about it.
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You assume that unpopularity is a fault. It isnt. Desire for popularity is a fault.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
If every social rule are broken, then yes, it's a fault.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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IMHO there are two things: 1. In, CP, you cannot swim upstream. See, I might sound offensive, but one thing that I have noticed is that people are stereotyped here. If I post 10 posts which are against the flow, I will be damned, always. Your user name dominates content of your posts (programming forums excluded). 2. Any post should be treated as an opinion. No matter what link you attach to it, it is an opinion (at least for me). Internet is no way a trustworthy source for controversial things. Be it CSS. Be it CPianism. If those guys are posting something, it is there opinion. You should not try to change it just because you think they are wrong. See, they might be posting crap for ages, but one decent post which just does not states anything stupid does not deserves to be univoted. Believe me if those guys post that "My username is XXX. What do you think? Is it cool?" this will be univoted. For sure. For me, what's wrong in this post?
"No matter how many fish in the sea; it will be so empty without me." - From song "Without me" by Eminem
Yea, I can see those points as to why some people are doing it.
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I don't know the story about this guy, as I've been preoccupied of late. It could be the case that he has been given "a second chance" before. Maybe a third, fourth, fifth, etc. At some point people won't just have it anymore. Such is the case with for instance CSS and fat_boy. They just don't know what social rules are. Even though people tell them they don't want to hear their endless rantings, they just can't stay away. CSS has more manners than fat_boy on this subject, and CSS is a drug head!
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
not sure if he has or not. was wondering why people weren't giving him a chance even after he started trying. He's been doing okay though trying a bit too hard sometimes. The other two, well, I have been on the receiving end of CSS losing it because he can't win with anything aside from name calling, I understand.
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Oh go on, please start. I love a bit of banter! ;)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Sorry, not really in the mood.
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Yea, I have noticed CPian's posts trying to be funny, and not to be a douche. He really is trying, sometimes a bit too hard, but he seems to want to change. Don't get me started on fat_bastard. I love how he keeps trying to ignore the ban in the lounge on obviously political posts. AGW is not going to be anything but a political post the way he goes about it.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
He really is trying, sometimes a bit too hard, but he seems to want to change.
Yeah, and I"m all for that, no matter who it is. Which is why I was surprised by fat_boys accusations, although as he is stalking me, I'm sure he remembers my posts better than I do, but I as a rule certainly try to judge each posts on it's merits and not judge by the poster. How else is someone like CSS going to change, unless we let him ?
ragnaroknrol wrote:
I love how he keeps trying to ignore the ban in the lounge on obviously political posts.
Yes, he seems to be bleeding through the entire site now. Because some people in the soapbox 1.0 love in have told him he is a prophet who must make his message heard, or something.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I've noticed a certain person with negative reputation has been in the lounge a lot lately. And almost every post is grey. Thing is, he's been trying to change his posts. Very few are whining, very few are attacks, and in fact most of the recent ones have been jokes, jests, poking fun at himself, or in general trying to change to not be a complete douchebag. And they keep 1 voting him. I don't get that. Yes, he has a history of being a twit, I get and understand that, but if his post is not deserving of a 1, he is sincerely trying to change and he is behaving, why give him a 1? I realize people may be expecting him to get stupid later, but for now why not use positive reinforcement to encourage him to keep trying to not be a douche? I may be a post whore, but I try and have fun and hope others do too. If he can change so that people aren't pissed at the universe whenever they see a post from him, why are we not helping him see it is a good thing? anyway /end rant
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So many people here seem to take it far to seriously. We've all behaved like tools at one time or another.
I didn't! ;-)
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you need a laugh, check out my Vodafone World of Difference application | If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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I didn't! ;-)
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you need a laugh, check out my Vodafone World of Difference application | If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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I didn't! ;-)
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you need a laugh, check out my Vodafone World of Difference application | If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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If every social rule are broken, then yes, it's a fault.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit