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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    Liar.

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    Christian Graus
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    You'd think so, but in fact, he's just an ignorant sheep who believes whatever he is told to. I have no doubt that in his mind, it's not a lie, because he's not smart enough to understand what he said. That's why he posts long text pieces pasted from websites, and attacks anyone who tries to discuss them.

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      Jorgen, did you actually watch it? I'm sure I could shove this right back in his face with ACTUAL quotes, but I'm firewalled :)

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      Yes, I did watch it some time ago. I think it's been up on the TED site for about 3 weeks now. Nowhere does he mention killing off population. Rather the opposite. If I recall correctly, he takes a growing population into account, rather than letting people die. He also talks about lowering CO2 by means of nuclear energy, and how nuclear waste could be reused to produce non lethal waste. What idiots like fat_boy and CSS forget, is that carbon is a pretty useless power source, as the most potent source for it (oil) is a finite resource. That problem needs to be solved, and from what I can tell, Bill Gates and his foundation is on it. I do sense dishonesty in Gates though. Not that he's an elite skull & bones member that wants to eat our children. No, he's in it for the money. If you solve the problem of ridding ourselves of the dependency on carbon as a power source, then you are going to become really rich. There's big money to be made in that! As always, new tech will not be available to the third world until... well, until someone pays for it. Regardless, it will be interesting to see what Bill & friends come up with. :)

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        I listened to it. It was extremely boring, same ol' global warming is going to kill us all so we must kill ourselves first BS.

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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        I listened to it. It was extremely boring, same ol' global warming is going to kill us all so we must kill ourselves first BS.

        No you didn't listen to it. You may have heard it, but with your brain being so conditioned by Uncle Al and his ilk, you totally misunderstood it. You are an addlepated buffoon if you believed that Bill Gates, whose fortune rests on an increase in information services, wishes to return to an agrarian age.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          Ian Shlasko wrote:

          Did you listen specifically to the part where he SUPPOSEDLY advocates population control? What did he say exactly?

          Yes, he said that sterilizations are one of the main solutions to carbon emissions.

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          Yes, he said that sterilizations are one of the main solutions to carbon emissions.

          No, Reproductive Health Services to reduce the increase in population. You didn't watch it at all, did you?

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          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

            Yes, I did watch it some time ago. I think it's been up on the TED site for about 3 weeks now. Nowhere does he mention killing off population. Rather the opposite. If I recall correctly, he takes a growing population into account, rather than letting people die. He also talks about lowering CO2 by means of nuclear energy, and how nuclear waste could be reused to produce non lethal waste. What idiots like fat_boy and CSS forget, is that carbon is a pretty useless power source, as the most potent source for it (oil) is a finite resource. That problem needs to be solved, and from what I can tell, Bill Gates and his foundation is on it. I do sense dishonesty in Gates though. Not that he's an elite skull & bones member that wants to eat our children. No, he's in it for the money. If you solve the problem of ridding ourselves of the dependency on carbon as a power source, then you are going to become really rich. There's big money to be made in that! As always, new tech will not be available to the third world until... well, until someone pays for it. Regardless, it will be interesting to see what Bill & friends come up with. :)

            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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            Ian Shlasko
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            Oh, I got most of that from the articles on CNN, CNBC, etc etc... Makes total sense, and I agree with it. But I'm curious as to the exact quote they're warping to paint him as a supporter of depopulation.

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              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              Yes, he said that sterilizations are one of the main solutions to carbon emissions.

              No, Reproductive Health Services to reduce the increase in population. You didn't watch it at all, did you?

              Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos

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              Ian Shlasko
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              So my guess was right? Abortion clinics? EDIT: Nevermind - Read your reply to the original post

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                Found a link with what seems to be an actual quotation: “if we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent.” Sounds like he used some really stupid wording... "reproductive health services" = Codename for abortion clinics Either that, or it's an incomplete quote, taken out of context, and I'm not seeing the real point.

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                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                "reproductive health services" = Codename for abortion clinics

                You've got Private Wee Parts Syndrome. :) Codename = Family Planning? Advice. Distribution of the Pill and Condoms. And, yes, Abortion on request.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  Ian Shlasko wrote:

                  Did you listen specifically to the part where he SUPPOSEDLY advocates population control? What did he say exactly?

                  Yes, he said that sterilizations are one of the main solutions to carbon emissions.

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                  Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                  This is a LIE, having just listened to the speach he only mentions vaccines in passing and make no reference to as to any use of vaccines at all. his point is that he and others belive in GW and in his opinion the world requires to do xy and z, and proposes a possible solution, one that given the R&D work could provide cheap non Co2 producing energy (and as a byproduct remove the current nuclear waste stockpile) - and he specific mentions that even if they are wrong about GW then this source of cheap power is still a good idea. This shows that a) you believe everything Uncle Alex tells you like a nice little drone b) you Dont check your facts and will even lie to cover up that you dont c) you havent an orginial idea - well maybe you do but are too stupid to see it when it happens d) you need help ps can i have a nickname too a nice cool one like chris's oh an hows giving porn to kids working out for you?

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    So my guess was right? Abortion clinics? EDIT: Nevermind - Read your reply to the original post

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                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                    Abortion clinics?

                    Is this an obsession? :)

                    Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos

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                    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                      This is a LIE, having just listened to the speach he only mentions vaccines in passing and make no reference to as to any use of vaccines at all. his point is that he and others belive in GW and in his opinion the world requires to do xy and z, and proposes a possible solution, one that given the R&D work could provide cheap non Co2 producing energy (and as a byproduct remove the current nuclear waste stockpile) - and he specific mentions that even if they are wrong about GW then this source of cheap power is still a good idea. This shows that a) you believe everything Uncle Alex tells you like a nice little drone b) you Dont check your facts and will even lie to cover up that you dont c) you havent an orginial idea - well maybe you do but are too stupid to see it when it happens d) you need help ps can i have a nickname too a nice cool one like chris's oh an hows giving porn to kids working out for you?

                      Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Well, I, for one, was surprised by this..... :P

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        "reproductive health services" = Codename for abortion clinics

                        You've got Private Wee Parts Syndrome. :) Codename = Family Planning? Advice. Distribution of the Pill and Condoms. And, yes, Abortion on request.

                        Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos

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                        Ian Shlasko
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                        Ok, so it's a buzzword for "birth control" :)

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Well, I, for one, was surprised by this..... :P

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                          ok preaching to the choir i know

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                          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                            Liar.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp
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                            Check your facts scumbag, Bill Gates is all about population control, moron.

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                              Check your facts scumbag, Bill Gates is all about population control, moron.

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                              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                              Link? because nothing you have posted supports this then again that statement covers every post you make and i am sure Bill gates worries about the opinion of a dope adeled moron who gives porn to kiddies

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                              • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                                Link? because nothing you have posted supports this then again that statement covers every post you make and i am sure Bill gates worries about the opinion of a dope adeled moron who gives porn to kiddies

                                Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=bill+gates+depopulation&aq=3&aqi=g4g-m1&aql=&oq=bill+gates+dep[^]

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                                  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=bill+gates+depopulation&aq=3&aqi=g4g-m1&aql=&oq=bill+gates+dep[^]

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                                  Ian Shlasko
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                                  Second result from your google search, courtesy of Timesonline.co.uk: "Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation."

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                                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=bill+gates+depopulation&aq=3&aqi=g4g-m1&aql=&oq=bill+gates+dep[^]

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                                    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                    well discounting the nutty sites non of the first page actual accuses gates of advocating anything but birth control - no depopulation

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      You are an idiot. People who have a better guarentee of infant survival, tend to breed less. People in the 3rd world who breed to excess, tend to do so for insurance, because they know at least some of their kids will die.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      wolfbinary
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                                      Now now don't you go using that pesky logic and reason. He get's all crazy about its application to his own life. Edited for spelling.

                                      modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:03 PM

                                      modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:03 PM

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                                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                        Check your facts scumbag, Bill Gates is all about population control, moron.

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        ROTFL - you are such a retard.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=bill+gates+depopulation&aq=3&aqi=g4g-m1&aql=&oq=bill+gates+dep[^]

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                                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                          Great facts, dip shit. How much drugs have you used? Are your brain so shrunk inside that thick skull of yours that you can't even discern between facts and very poor fiction?

                                          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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