Bill Gates: Use Vaccines To Lower Population [modified] (added new source)
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Jorgen, did you actually watch it? I'm sure I could shove this right back in his face with ACTUAL quotes, but I'm firewalled :)
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Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)Yes, I did watch it some time ago. I think it's been up on the TED site for about 3 weeks now. Nowhere does he mention killing off population. Rather the opposite. If I recall correctly, he takes a growing population into account, rather than letting people die. He also talks about lowering CO2 by means of nuclear energy, and how nuclear waste could be reused to produce non lethal waste. What idiots like fat_boy and CSS forget, is that carbon is a pretty useless power source, as the most potent source for it (oil) is a finite resource. That problem needs to be solved, and from what I can tell, Bill Gates and his foundation is on it. I do sense dishonesty in Gates though. Not that he's an elite skull & bones member that wants to eat our children. No, he's in it for the money. If you solve the problem of ridding ourselves of the dependency on carbon as a power source, then you are going to become really rich. There's big money to be made in that! As always, new tech will not be available to the third world until... well, until someone pays for it. Regardless, it will be interesting to see what Bill & friends come up with. :)
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I listened to it. It was extremely boring, same ol' global warming is going to kill us all so we must kill ourselves first BS.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I listened to it. It was extremely boring, same ol' global warming is going to kill us all so we must kill ourselves first BS.
No you didn't listen to it. You may have heard it, but with your brain being so conditioned by Uncle Al and his ilk, you totally misunderstood it. You are an addlepated buffoon if you believed that Bill Gates, whose fortune rests on an increase in information services, wishes to return to an agrarian age.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Did you listen specifically to the part where he SUPPOSEDLY advocates population control? What did he say exactly?
Yes, he said that sterilizations are one of the main solutions to carbon emissions.
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Yes, I did watch it some time ago. I think it's been up on the TED site for about 3 weeks now. Nowhere does he mention killing off population. Rather the opposite. If I recall correctly, he takes a growing population into account, rather than letting people die. He also talks about lowering CO2 by means of nuclear energy, and how nuclear waste could be reused to produce non lethal waste. What idiots like fat_boy and CSS forget, is that carbon is a pretty useless power source, as the most potent source for it (oil) is a finite resource. That problem needs to be solved, and from what I can tell, Bill Gates and his foundation is on it. I do sense dishonesty in Gates though. Not that he's an elite skull & bones member that wants to eat our children. No, he's in it for the money. If you solve the problem of ridding ourselves of the dependency on carbon as a power source, then you are going to become really rich. There's big money to be made in that! As always, new tech will not be available to the third world until... well, until someone pays for it. Regardless, it will be interesting to see what Bill & friends come up with. :)
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Oh, I got most of that from the articles on CNN, CNBC, etc etc... Makes total sense, and I agree with it. But I'm curious as to the exact quote they're warping to paint him as a supporter of depopulation.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Yes, he said that sterilizations are one of the main solutions to carbon emissions.
No, Reproductive Health Services to reduce the increase in population. You didn't watch it at all, did you?
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So my guess was right? Abortion clinics? EDIT: Nevermind - Read your reply to the original post
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Found a link with what seems to be an actual quotation: “if we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that [his initial 2050 global population projection of 9-billion] by perhaps about 10 to 15 percent.” Sounds like he used some really stupid wording... "reproductive health services" = Codename for abortion clinics Either that, or it's an incomplete quote, taken out of context, and I'm not seeing the real point.
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Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)Ian Shlasko wrote:
"reproductive health services" = Codename for abortion clinics
You've got Private Wee Parts Syndrome. :) Codename = Family Planning? Advice. Distribution of the Pill and Condoms. And, yes, Abortion on request.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Did you listen specifically to the part where he SUPPOSEDLY advocates population control? What did he say exactly?
Yes, he said that sterilizations are one of the main solutions to carbon emissions.
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This is a LIE, having just listened to the speach he only mentions vaccines in passing and make no reference to as to any use of vaccines at all. his point is that he and others belive in GW and in his opinion the world requires to do xy and z, and proposes a possible solution, one that given the R&D work could provide cheap non Co2 producing energy (and as a byproduct remove the current nuclear waste stockpile) - and he specific mentions that even if they are wrong about GW then this source of cheap power is still a good idea. This shows that a) you believe everything Uncle Alex tells you like a nice little drone b) you Dont check your facts and will even lie to cover up that you dont c) you havent an orginial idea - well maybe you do but are too stupid to see it when it happens d) you need help ps can i have a nickname too a nice cool one like chris's oh an hows giving porn to kids working out for you?
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So my guess was right? Abortion clinics? EDIT: Nevermind - Read your reply to the original post
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This is a LIE, having just listened to the speach he only mentions vaccines in passing and make no reference to as to any use of vaccines at all. his point is that he and others belive in GW and in his opinion the world requires to do xy and z, and proposes a possible solution, one that given the R&D work could provide cheap non Co2 producing energy (and as a byproduct remove the current nuclear waste stockpile) - and he specific mentions that even if they are wrong about GW then this source of cheap power is still a good idea. This shows that a) you believe everything Uncle Alex tells you like a nice little drone b) you Dont check your facts and will even lie to cover up that you dont c) you havent an orginial idea - well maybe you do but are too stupid to see it when it happens d) you need help ps can i have a nickname too a nice cool one like chris's oh an hows giving porn to kids working out for you?
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Well, I, for one, was surprised by this..... :P
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
"reproductive health services" = Codename for abortion clinics
You've got Private Wee Parts Syndrome. :) Codename = Family Planning? Advice. Distribution of the Pill and Condoms. And, yes, Abortion on request.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
Ok, so it's a buzzword for "birth control" :)
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Well, I, for one, was surprised by this..... :P
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ok preaching to the choir i know
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Liar.
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Check your facts scumbag, Bill Gates is all about population control, moron.
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Check your facts scumbag, Bill Gates is all about population control, moron.
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Link? because nothing you have posted supports this then again that statement covers every post you make and i am sure Bill gates worries about the opinion of a dope adeled moron who gives porn to kiddies
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Link? because nothing you have posted supports this then again that statement covers every post you make and i am sure Bill gates worries about the opinion of a dope adeled moron who gives porn to kiddies
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Second result from your google search, courtesy of Timesonline.co.uk: "Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation."
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well discounting the nutty sites non of the first page actual accuses gates of advocating anything but birth control - no depopulation
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You are an idiot. People who have a better guarentee of infant survival, tend to breed less. People in the 3rd world who breed to excess, tend to do so for insurance, because they know at least some of their kids will die.
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Now now don't you go using that pesky logic and reason. He get's all crazy about its application to his own life. Edited for spelling.
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modified on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:03 PM
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Check your facts scumbag, Bill Gates is all about population control, moron.
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ROTFL - you are such a retard.
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Great facts, dip shit. How much drugs have you used? Are your brain so shrunk inside that thick skull of yours that you can't even discern between facts and very poor fiction?
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Ok, so it's a buzzword for "birth control" :)
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Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)Ian Shlasko wrote:
a buzzword for "birth control"
Goes a lot further than that. The christian right hates those places. They call them abortion clinics, say they are just there for that and pretty much demonize the places. What they actually do is a lot more effective at helping these people than what the far right missionaries do and that pisses them off. They talk to folks about how VD is spread, what measures prevent it and they hand out condoms. They talk about family planning as a way to help the family. How many to have, options if pregnant (including adoption) and making sure the family isn't so big that resources are stetched thin. Sterilzation options are also discussed. A lot of the far right would scream at the thought of birth control or actually not letting the random hand of fate determine how many kids you have.