Food
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Christian Graus wrote:
hammerstein05 wrote: My wife tells stories of kids not knowing what certain foods are etc. The local primary schools are full of kids who think beans come from cans.
I've tried explaining that to people. Explaining why some fruits and vegetables cost so much is another. Raspberries for example are so labor intensive, yet produce so much off one plant for months. I live in town with a small lot so I can't grow as much as I used to. Corn has never been an option for me. Too easy to get from professional farmers or produce stands, when in season. Large things like watermelon I just don't each enough of, but I might try growing smaller varieties so I can juice the extra or dehydrate it. Usually I can or freeze everything. 60 quarts of tomatoes, etc. I'm really looking forward to getting back into the garden. The change of season will be great.
wolfbinary wrote:
Raspberries for example are so labor intensive, yet produce so much off one plant for months.
Really ? Raspberries for me are not labour intensive at all. I tie them off and cut them back in the middle of winter, and that's about it. My main issue is controlling them, they grow like weeds. We have tons of raspberry jam, syrup, etc, from the copious fruit we get.
wolfbinary wrote:
Usually I can or freeze everything. 60 quarts of tomatoes, etc. I'm really looking forward to getting back into the garden. The change of season will be great.
yeah, I am trying to learn how to best preserve as much as I can. I also am trying to make my garden year round. I have brassicas, carrots, parsnips, silverbeet, spinach and kale in for winter eating.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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wolfbinary wrote:
Raspberries for example are so labor intensive, yet produce so much off one plant for months.
Really ? Raspberries for me are not labour intensive at all. I tie them off and cut them back in the middle of winter, and that's about it. My main issue is controlling them, they grow like weeds. We have tons of raspberry jam, syrup, etc, from the copious fruit we get.
wolfbinary wrote:
Usually I can or freeze everything. 60 quarts of tomatoes, etc. I'm really looking forward to getting back into the garden. The change of season will be great.
yeah, I am trying to learn how to best preserve as much as I can. I also am trying to make my garden year round. I have brassicas, carrots, parsnips, silverbeet, spinach and kale in for winter eating.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
wolfbinary wrote: Raspberries for example are so labor intensive, yet produce so much off one plant for months. Really ? Raspberries for me are not labour intensive at all. I tie them off and cut them back in the middle of winter, and that's about it. My main issue is controlling them, they grow like weeds. We have tons of raspberry jam, syrup, etc, from the copious fruit we get.
For mass production they are. Someone has to pick all those berries, but for the average gardener no. Carrots don't really turn out right unless you have very loose soil, which for me, isn't just yet. I'll see how much gardening I can get done this year so that they can grow without forking.
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Christian Graus wrote:
wolfbinary wrote: Raspberries for example are so labor intensive, yet produce so much off one plant for months. Really ? Raspberries for me are not labour intensive at all. I tie them off and cut them back in the middle of winter, and that's about it. My main issue is controlling them, they grow like weeds. We have tons of raspberry jam, syrup, etc, from the copious fruit we get.
For mass production they are. Someone has to pick all those berries, but for the average gardener no. Carrots don't really turn out right unless you have very loose soil, which for me, isn't just yet. I'll see how much gardening I can get done this year so that they can grow without forking.
wolfbinary wrote:
For mass production they are. Someone has to pick all those berries, but for the average gardener no.
True. We probably only end up picking half of ours.
wolfbinary wrote:
I'll see how much gardening I can get done this year so that they can grow without forking.
They don't fork because your soil is too tight. They fork because there's too much nitrogen in the soil. Carrots are a good crop to plant after something like tomatoes or brassicas ( not beans ) and you don't feed the soil at all. Otherwise, they fork. I get a few forked ones here and there, but not many.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I've been reading a number of books that talk about the way the modern food system is built, and how likely it is that we're going to face some sort of food crisis, as more and more people both exist, and expect a Western standard of food ( which means more meat, more than anything ). I wonder how many people give much thought to where food comes from ? We grow a lot of our own, I am making tomato sauces, and grape juice at the moment and we have all sorts of other preserves in our cupboards, as well as piles of potatoes and onions. I am picking Nashi pears, grapes, apples, tomatoes, carrots, beans and capsicum at the moment ( it's autumn here ).
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
We grow a lot of our own, I am making tomato sauces, and grape juice at the moment and we have all sorts of other preserves in our cupboards, as well as piles of potatoes and onions. I am picking Nashi pears, grapes, apples, tomatoes, carrots, beans and capsicum at the moment ( it's autumn here ).
Eeesh.... that's not fair. I think the only thing growing here is icicles. :^) :-D
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modified on Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:43 PM
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I've been reading a number of books that talk about the way the modern food system is built, and how likely it is that we're going to face some sort of food crisis, as more and more people both exist, and expect a Western standard of food ( which means more meat, more than anything ). I wonder how many people give much thought to where food comes from ? We grow a lot of our own, I am making tomato sauces, and grape juice at the moment and we have all sorts of other preserves in our cupboards, as well as piles of potatoes and onions. I am picking Nashi pears, grapes, apples, tomatoes, carrots, beans and capsicum at the moment ( it's autumn here ).
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
it's autumn here
No it's fucking not, not till 21-03-2010.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Christian Graus wrote:
it's autumn here
No it's fucking not, not till 21-03-2010.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
The seasons don't start on the 1st of the month ? Really ? That's news to me. But what do I know ? I'm a paedophile and a eugenicist. Oh, wait, that's that other dude. Christian Gruas.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The seasons don't start on the 1st of the month ? Really ? That's news to me. But what do I know ? I'm a paedophile and a eugenicist. Oh, wait, that's that other dude. Christian Gruas.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The seasons don't start on the 1st of the month ?
Never, ever have, just something that's popped up in the last 20 years or so it's much easier for morons to remember. Look up Summer Solstice 21st December and Winter Solstice 21st June (obviously those weirdo's in the Northern Hemisphere have it all backwards) Spring and Autumn are obviously then 3 months off of these dates.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Christian Graus wrote:
The seasons don't start on the 1st of the month ?
Never, ever have, just something that's popped up in the last 20 years or so it's much easier for morons to remember. Look up Summer Solstice 21st December and Winter Solstice 21st June (obviously those weirdo's in the Northern Hemisphere have it all backwards) Spring and Autumn are obviously then 3 months off of these dates.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
OK, well, then I've been deluded my entire life in this regard :P I believe even the paper here ran a story on our summer that was saying how warm it was, hence implying it was over.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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OK, well, then I've been deluded my entire life in this regard :P I believe even the paper here ran a story on our summer that was saying how warm it was, hence implying it was over.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I believe even the paper here ran a story on our summer that was saying how warm it was, hence implying it was over.
Don't worry, it isn't just the Taswegian medai that's fucked up. Here in Sydney the print and TV news was all over the fact Autumn has started. They're just morons.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Christian Graus wrote:
I believe even the paper here ran a story on our summer that was saying how warm it was, hence implying it was over.
Don't worry, it isn't just the Taswegian medai that's fucked up. Here in Sydney the print and TV news was all over the fact Autumn has started. They're just morons.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Well, I tried to avoid learning something new today, but it appears it's too late for that now....
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I've been growing a bunch of my own food for a while now. It's spring now and I tend to wait all year for tomatoes from the garden. It's going to take me a while to get the soil in the kind of shape I need it in to grow all the different kinds of food I want, but it's coming along. Tomatoes have always been a staple of mine and I plan on growing green beans this year too. I have a lot of gravel and stones in some parts of the yard and so that's taking a bit of time to deal with. There's another documentary, albiet biased a bit I think, called "The Story of Stuff". http://www.storyofstuff.com/[^] I say it's a bit biased because some of the facts in it aren't really accurate when it comes to why computers are built a particular way. Tonight I plan on watch "Capitalism: A Love Story". After watching the trailer and a few clips from it I think it might show me more of the picture of what happened and what's still going on. I think it will be a little biased, but not to bad.
wolfbinary wrote:
It's going to take me a while to get the soil in the kind of shape I need it in
You should see if you can lay your hands on a trailer load of hops from the local brewery - they make the best fertiliser - my old man always digs it in and the growth rates are awesome.
I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly 'This space for rent' Driven to the arms of Heineken by the wife
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Christian Graus wrote:
I believe even the paper here ran a story on our summer that was saying how warm it was, hence implying it was over.
Don't worry, it isn't just the Taswegian medai that's fucked up. Here in Sydney the print and TV news was all over the fact Autumn has started. They're just morons.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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These would be the same morons that get the end (and beginning) of decades and Millenia wrong?
I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly 'This space for rent' Driven to the arms of Heineken by the wife
Andy_L_J wrote:
These would be the same morons that get the end (and beginning) of decades and Millenia wrong?
I don't think the morons that stuff up the start of the seasons even know what a decade, century or millennium is.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004