A little lesson in Irony.
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Lunaticfringe posted a message a few days ago about that "militia" that was planning on being cop killers because the New World Order controlled all federal and local forms of government. One thing I did notice when I was reading the article on them was their current situation. You see, none of them have attorneys. So a group that believes all forms of socialism are an attempt by a secret society controlling local governments is using a court appointed lawyer. (for the IQ impaired: The lawyer is paid for by the government that is oppressing them.)
They were infiltrated by an FBI provocateur, their taxpayer funded attorney isn't going to try to help them either. Courts are not an example of socialism by the way, neither are cops or military.
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They were infiltrated by an FBI provocateur, their taxpayer funded attorney isn't going to try to help them either. Courts are not an example of socialism by the way, neither are cops or military.
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They were infiltrated by an FBI provocateur, their taxpayer funded attorney isn't going to try to help them either. Courts are not an example of socialism by the way, neither are cops or military.
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LunaticFringe wrote:
Miranda[^] was a socialist?
Miranda was arrested for robbery and admitted to rape so he might have a bit of that "what's yours is mine philosophy". Why even CSS has addmitted he has that belief when you have something he wants.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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But as to your point, Courts, Cops and Military are all funded by taxes to promote social welfare to provide services ideally without basis on how much you pay into them. What about that isn't socialist?
Distind wrote:
What about that isn't socialist? Quote Selected Text
Once again here is the official definition of socialism. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism[^] 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Now tell me how courts are an example of socialism. Courts are an example of standard government function.
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But as to your point, Courts, Cops and Military are all funded by taxes to promote social welfare to provide services ideally without basis on how much you pay into them. What about that isn't socialist?
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Distind wrote:
What about that isn't socialist? Quote Selected Text
Once again here is the official definition of socialism. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism[^] 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Now tell me how courts are an example of socialism. Courts are an example of standard government function.
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Once again, do you support the following statements? * Back to Nature - insane * Carbon Offsetting - joke * Ethical Consumption - scam * Green Lifestyle - ostentatious grand gesture * Nuclear Power - essential * Recycling - waste of time and energy * Renewable Energy Subsidies - No! Rely on market forces * Technology - more needed, not less * Wind Power - waste of time
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
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Once again, do you support the following statements? * Back to Nature - insane * Carbon Offsetting - joke * Ethical Consumption - scam * Green Lifestyle - ostentatious grand gesture * Nuclear Power - essential * Recycling - waste of time and energy * Renewable Energy Subsidies - No! Rely on market forces * Technology - more needed, not less * Wind Power - waste of time
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Back to Nature - insane
I myself would like to own some land and have a farm, much like CG does.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Carbon Offsetting - joke * Ethical Consumption - scam
Joke, ripoff, scam, fraud, destructive.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Green Lifestyle - ostentatious grand gesture
It depends on whether that means decomposable computers that cost a million dollars. Let the free market decide.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Nuclear Power - essential
Absolutely, perhaps not essential but certainly useful.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Recycling - waste of time and energy
Only when it is not naturally profitable (AKA free market decides).
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Renewable Energy Subsidies - No! Rely on market forces
Joke, ripoff, scam, fraud, destructive.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Technology - more needed, not less
Absolutely.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Wind Power - waste of time
Takes more than it gives.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
* Back to Nature - insane
I myself would like to own some land and have a farm, much like CG does.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Carbon Offsetting - joke * Ethical Consumption - scam
Joke, ripoff, scam, fraud, destructive.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Green Lifestyle - ostentatious grand gesture
It depends on whether that means decomposable computers that cost a million dollars. Let the free market decide.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Nuclear Power - essential
Absolutely, perhaps not essential but certainly useful.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Recycling - waste of time and energy
Only when it is not naturally profitable (AKA free market decides).
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Renewable Energy Subsidies - No! Rely on market forces
Joke, ripoff, scam, fraud, destructive.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Technology - more needed, not less
Absolutely.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Wind Power - waste of time
Takes more than it gives.
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The irony is that James Lovelock, who you berated thus: Look at this piece of filth. He is pure trash, SCUUUUGHGHM! He hates life so much, he just wants to destroy it in the most brutal ways. He absolutely hates freedom, he would like to see an absolute dictatorship where thugs in black ski-masks run around punching the belly of every pregnant woman they see. He would like it if governments nuked the ice caps so that they would melt to punish us for not believing his filthy lies. also holds those views. BTW: The Guardian headline James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change is incorrect. I have read the transcript of the interview and nowhere does he make that remark. "Not yet clever enough", yes, but that carries an entirely different meaning.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
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Distind wrote:
What about that isn't socialist? Quote Selected Text
Once again here is the official definition of socialism. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism[^] 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Now tell me how courts are an example of socialism. Courts are an example of standard government function.
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Ok, I was busier than the blazes of hell yesterday, but I'm taking a second out of my morning to ask a question. If the cops coming to protect me from a violent assault isn't socialistic, why is getting treated by a doctor? Production, goods and services under governmental control or even regulation are socialism, it's not magically capitalism just because it doesn't feature tangible stuff. The USPS is socialism on a national level, same as the FBI, CIA, NSA and all branches of the military. All of them are intended to provide certain services to the American public, if they do or not is an entirely different matter. While I find stories of Pinkerton's amusing, we have replaced many private agencies with government controlled equivalents over the years. And that is still socialism, even if it's a service.
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The irony is that James Lovelock, who you berated thus: Look at this piece of filth. He is pure trash, SCUUUUGHGHM! He hates life so much, he just wants to destroy it in the most brutal ways. He absolutely hates freedom, he would like to see an absolute dictatorship where thugs in black ski-masks run around punching the belly of every pregnant woman they see. He would like it if governments nuked the ice caps so that they would melt to punish us for not believing his filthy lies. also holds those views. BTW: The Guardian headline James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change is incorrect. I have read the transcript of the interview and nowhere does he make that remark. "Not yet clever enough", yes, but that carries an entirely different meaning.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
Bob Emmett wrote:
: The Guardian headline James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change is incorrect. I have read the transcript of the interview and nowhere does he make that remark. "Not yet clever enough", yes, but that carries an entirely different meaning.
It used to say that. The stupid pos realized that he pissed way too many people off.
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Ok, I was busier than the blazes of hell yesterday, but I'm taking a second out of my morning to ask a question. If the cops coming to protect me from a violent assault isn't socialistic, why is getting treated by a doctor? Production, goods and services under governmental control or even regulation are socialism, it's not magically capitalism just because it doesn't feature tangible stuff. The USPS is socialism on a national level, same as the FBI, CIA, NSA and all branches of the military. All of them are intended to provide certain services to the American public, if they do or not is an entirely different matter. While I find stories of Pinkerton's amusing, we have replaced many private agencies with government controlled equivalents over the years. And that is still socialism, even if it's a service.
Again distand, police, courts and military are not examples of socialism at work. They are standard government functions of ALL governments. America have been very socialist over the past 100 years, that is why this country is destroyed.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
: The Guardian headline James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change is incorrect. I have read the transcript of the interview and nowhere does he make that remark. "Not yet clever enough", yes, but that carries an entirely different meaning.
It used to say that. The stupid pos realized that he pissed way too many people off.
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Again distand, police, courts and military are not examples of socialism at work. They are standard government functions of ALL governments. America have been very socialist over the past 100 years, that is why this country is destroyed.
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They aren't actually functions of all governments, or at least not what we consider to be those things. See, ours are supposed to apply to everyone, equally. Which itself is rather socialist compared to other systems when ours was created. Generally in the past if you didn't hold value to the rulers, they simply left you to rot with no place in the system, no help from the system, and typically absolutely nothing more than what you could scrape from the earth, and they then took some of that from you using the very forces we're talking about. Edit: For note, see Somalia, libertarian paradise. And if we're so damn destroyed, why is it that we've hit the worst economic issues by dropping or not applying regulations? And if we're so destroyed why is it that some of the highest taxes in our history are associated with the time that so many idiots idealize?
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What about a government that does any of the range services that most people expect of government isn't socialistic?
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
* Back to Nature - insane
I myself would like to own some land and have a farm, much like CG does.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Carbon Offsetting - joke * Ethical Consumption - scam
Joke, ripoff, scam, fraud, destructive.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Green Lifestyle - ostentatious grand gesture
It depends on whether that means decomposable computers that cost a million dollars. Let the free market decide.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Nuclear Power - essential
Absolutely, perhaps not essential but certainly useful.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Recycling - waste of time and energy
Only when it is not naturally profitable (AKA free market decides).
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Renewable Energy Subsidies - No! Rely on market forces
Joke, ripoff, scam, fraud, destructive.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Technology - more needed, not less
Absolutely.
Bob Emmett wrote:
* Wind Power - waste of time
Takes more than it gives.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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They aren't actually functions of all governments, or at least not what we consider to be those things. See, ours are supposed to apply to everyone, equally. Which itself is rather socialist compared to other systems when ours was created. Generally in the past if you didn't hold value to the rulers, they simply left you to rot with no place in the system, no help from the system, and typically absolutely nothing more than what you could scrape from the earth, and they then took some of that from you using the very forces we're talking about. Edit: For note, see Somalia, libertarian paradise. And if we're so damn destroyed, why is it that we've hit the worst economic issues by dropping or not applying regulations? And if we're so destroyed why is it that some of the highest taxes in our history are associated with the time that so many idiots idealize?
Your problem is that you don't know the definition of socialism and you take everything out of context. You are a lost cause.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Bob Emmett wrote: * Wind Power - waste of time Takes more than it gives.
What!? Generating wind is not a step when it comes to using wind power, or is it?
d@nish wrote:
What!?
It takes a lot land, resources, and energy to produce and maintain windmills, and they do not produce much electricity and wind is not constant. In the old days windmills would be used by farmers to mill their grains, and it would take more or less time to mill his grain depending on the weather, but it was easier than doing it by hand. Windmills can't power modern civilization, but they can still be used by small farmers off the grid for small tasks such as milling grain or powering a radio.
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Your problem is that you don't know the definition of socialism and you take everything out of context. You are a lost cause.
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Wonderful question, I can't want to see CSS's explanation beyond it's what he thinks he's entitled to.
I don't think he will answer this one, it's way too complicated and he doesn't have thoughts of his own, if Ron Paul (or whatever is his name) didn't say it, he doesn't know it.
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!