Protesting for higher taxes!
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I'm completely ripping off someone else's post here, but figure this may interest some people here: Springfield, Illinois saw 15,000 people show up at the capital to rally for a tax increase. Why? They want to pay more taxes to make sure schools and other government services are not cut. The crowd chanted at lawmakers "do you jobs" and "show some guts". The state legislature is more interested in cutting programs just so they can say they did not raise taxes. .....by the way, 15,000 showed up to ask for higher taxes, while the Tea Party tax day rally only had around 1,500. http://www.myfoxillinois.com/dpp/news/il....sures_lawmakers[^] http://progressillinois.com/posts/conten....rms-springfield[^] http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/c....our-state-rally[^] Stolen From HERE[^ /theft I do have to say it's nice to see people who realize a government that actually does it's job is worth the money. Lower taxes doesn't solve much of anything, cutting programs can cause plenty of problems though.
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I'm completely ripping off someone else's post here, but figure this may interest some people here: Springfield, Illinois saw 15,000 people show up at the capital to rally for a tax increase. Why? They want to pay more taxes to make sure schools and other government services are not cut. The crowd chanted at lawmakers "do you jobs" and "show some guts". The state legislature is more interested in cutting programs just so they can say they did not raise taxes. .....by the way, 15,000 showed up to ask for higher taxes, while the Tea Party tax day rally only had around 1,500. http://www.myfoxillinois.com/dpp/news/il....sures_lawmakers[^] http://progressillinois.com/posts/conten....rms-springfield[^] http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/c....our-state-rally[^] Stolen From HERE[^ /theft I do have to say it's nice to see people who realize a government that actually does it's job is worth the money. Lower taxes doesn't solve much of anything, cutting programs can cause plenty of problems though.
Most of your tax money goes to the banks and corporations (Geithner's buddies, the people who paid for Obama), and then it goes to welfare recipients.
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I'm completely ripping off someone else's post here, but figure this may interest some people here: Springfield, Illinois saw 15,000 people show up at the capital to rally for a tax increase. Why? They want to pay more taxes to make sure schools and other government services are not cut. The crowd chanted at lawmakers "do you jobs" and "show some guts". The state legislature is more interested in cutting programs just so they can say they did not raise taxes. .....by the way, 15,000 showed up to ask for higher taxes, while the Tea Party tax day rally only had around 1,500. http://www.myfoxillinois.com/dpp/news/il....sures_lawmakers[^] http://progressillinois.com/posts/conten....rms-springfield[^] http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/c....our-state-rally[^] Stolen From HERE[^ /theft I do have to say it's nice to see people who realize a government that actually does it's job is worth the money. Lower taxes doesn't solve much of anything, cutting programs can cause plenty of problems though.
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I'm completely ripping off someone else's post here, but figure this may interest some people here: Springfield, Illinois saw 15,000 people show up at the capital to rally for a tax increase. Why? They want to pay more taxes to make sure schools and other government services are not cut. The crowd chanted at lawmakers "do you jobs" and "show some guts". The state legislature is more interested in cutting programs just so they can say they did not raise taxes. .....by the way, 15,000 showed up to ask for higher taxes, while the Tea Party tax day rally only had around 1,500. http://www.myfoxillinois.com/dpp/news/il....sures_lawmakers[^] http://progressillinois.com/posts/conten....rms-springfield[^] http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/c....our-state-rally[^] Stolen From HERE[^ /theft I do have to say it's nice to see people who realize a government that actually does it's job is worth the money. Lower taxes doesn't solve much of anything, cutting programs can cause plenty of problems though.
Who wants to bet that these people don't even pay taxes, but rather get a check from the government?
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Who wants to bet that these people don't even pay taxes, but rather get a check from the government?
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Most of your tax money goes to the banks and corporations (Geithner's buddies, the people who paid for Obama), and then it goes to welfare recipients.
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If you'd like to play statistics I can probably show you the majority of the budget goes to zenu by citing the 'proper' sources, but the more reality based would lead me to believe a good chunk of it winds up in our military's pocket, at least far more than what goes to welfare.
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It would appear we have at least one public school teacher among them, If they're on welfare we've got bigger problems than a tax increase.
Yes, people who are for tax increases are on the receiving end of them.
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Yes, people who are for tax increases are on the receiving end of them.
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Ah, but the issue is, she's working for a living, not a welfare case as you implied. You're still wrong, and there were another 14,999 people there. And I'll note again, I'm for the public option, and it would help me in little to no way cost wise. At least any time soon. So am I not people?
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Ah, but the issue is, she's working for a living, not a welfare case as you implied. You're still wrong, and there were another 14,999 people there. And I'll note again, I'm for the public option, and it would help me in little to no way cost wise. At least any time soon. So am I not people?
Distind wrote:
Ah, but the issue is, she's working for a living, not a welfare case as you implied.
She is on the receiving end of the tax increase. I'm for private free market, not a taxpayer funded government economy.
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I'm completely ripping off someone else's post here, but figure this may interest some people here: Springfield, Illinois saw 15,000 people show up at the capital to rally for a tax increase. Why? They want to pay more taxes to make sure schools and other government services are not cut. The crowd chanted at lawmakers "do you jobs" and "show some guts". The state legislature is more interested in cutting programs just so they can say they did not raise taxes. .....by the way, 15,000 showed up to ask for higher taxes, while the Tea Party tax day rally only had around 1,500. http://www.myfoxillinois.com/dpp/news/il....sures_lawmakers[^] http://progressillinois.com/posts/conten....rms-springfield[^] http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/c....our-state-rally[^] Stolen From HERE[^ /theft I do have to say it's nice to see people who realize a government that actually does it's job is worth the money. Lower taxes doesn't solve much of anything, cutting programs can cause plenty of problems though.
On Wednesday, a phalanx of public sector employees, including SEIU, Illinois Education Association, Illinois Federation of Teachers, AFSCME, and AFL-CIO, rallied in support of the tax hike in the capital, Springfield. [^] These people are like robbers, instead of people who actually have a demand for their services and pay them their fair share that way, they get paid because the government forcibly confiscates real workers wealth and gives it to these loons. That's not free market.
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On Wednesday, a phalanx of public sector employees, including SEIU, Illinois Education Association, Illinois Federation of Teachers, AFSCME, and AFL-CIO, rallied in support of the tax hike in the capital, Springfield. [^] These people are like robbers, instead of people who actually have a demand for their services and pay them their fair share that way, they get paid because the government forcibly confiscates real workers wealth and gives it to these loons. That's not free market.
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Distind wrote:
Ah, but the issue is, she's working for a living, not a welfare case as you implied.
She is on the receiving end of the tax increase. I'm for private free market, not a taxpayer funded government economy.
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On Wednesday, a phalanx of public sector employees, including SEIU, Illinois Education Association, Illinois Federation of Teachers, AFSCME, and AFL-CIO, rallied in support of the tax hike in the capital, Springfield. [^] These people are like robbers, instead of people who actually have a demand for their services and pay them their fair share that way, they get paid because the government forcibly confiscates real workers wealth and gives it to these loons. That's not free market.
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How'd you learn to read? How'd you learn math? Private school? If not, stfu. You and millions of other kids learning was the demand. If you did go to public school, you are a hypocrit of the highest order. Hell, I will be nice and point out how screwed school teachers are in little words. What does a babysitter make? Let's be a scrooge and say $3/hr. (This is way low) Now have that babysitter take care of a kid from 8am until 3pm. Now have them do it for, say, 21 kids. $63 an hour, times 7 hours. $441/day 5 days a week. How many teachers make $2205 a week? That's in the order of 114.6K a year. We are paying teachers less than babysitters. And babysitters don't teach our kids multiplication, english, history, or any of the other skills needed to succeed, they just make sure the kid doesn't manage to kill themselves while we are away. Shoot, I used a big word. multiplications means special math.
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How'd you learn to read? How'd you learn math? Private school? If not, stfu. You and millions of other kids learning was the demand. If you did go to public school, you are a hypocrit of the highest order. Hell, I will be nice and point out how screwed school teachers are in little words. What does a babysitter make? Let's be a scrooge and say $3/hr. (This is way low) Now have that babysitter take care of a kid from 8am until 3pm. Now have them do it for, say, 21 kids. $63 an hour, times 7 hours. $441/day 5 days a week. How many teachers make $2205 a week? That's in the order of 114.6K a year. We are paying teachers less than babysitters. And babysitters don't teach our kids multiplication, english, history, or any of the other skills needed to succeed, they just make sure the kid doesn't manage to kill themselves while we are away. Shoot, I used a big word. multiplications means special math.
Our babysitter gets $10 an hour. My wife, a teacher in a public school, earns nowhere near that figure. A parent of one of the students once told my wife, "I taught him how to feed himself and dress himself, when he's there he's your responsibility"
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Our babysitter gets $10 an hour. My wife, a teacher in a public school, earns nowhere near that figure. A parent of one of the students once told my wife, "I taught him how to feed himself and dress himself, when he's there he's your responsibility"
I don't get it. We pay people millions to play games for the amusement of fans, but when it comes to getting our own children prepared for the real world, people claim teachers are overpaid. $3/hr was me being a scrooge. My wife and I go with $5 an hour or more depending on age and situation. That doesn't include the meal we pay for.
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I don't get it. We pay people millions to play games for the amusement of fans, but when it comes to getting our own children prepared for the real world, people claim teachers are overpaid. $3/hr was me being a scrooge. My wife and I go with $5 an hour or more depending on age and situation. That doesn't include the meal we pay for.
I can't speak for teachers in general, but I see just how much work my wife does and can outright say she is not overpaid. She doesn't get her evenings, she takes phone calls from parents on the weekend. Her summer vacation, she spends a lot of organising the next years work, that's certainly not paid for.
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If you'd like to play statistics I can probably show you the majority of the budget goes to zenu by citing the 'proper' sources, but the more reality based would lead me to believe a good chunk of it winds up in our military's pocket, at least far more than what goes to welfare.
Please speak from knowledge. According to The Wiki (all hail)[^], DOD is 2nd, after Social Security, which is almost 30% higher. Summed SS, Medicaid, Medicare, SCHIP, Unemployment & Welfare is over half of the budget. The problem is lies,damn lies, and statistics. The defense budget is a HUGE portion of *discretionary* spending (since we have made laws that require the funding of those programs listed above, a big part of that 50+% of the budget 'does not count'). People such as these,[^] will show the DOD budget as percent of selected portions of discretionary plus non-discretionary military related funds, and say > 50%. It is all in how you want the numbers to end up. The pie chart I showed did not include VA benefits, the GWOT, DHS or intell agencies as part of the DOD budget. I didn't set it up that way, it was literally the first one I found, and illustrates how statistics can work any way you want them to.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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Most of your tax money goes to the banks and corporations (Geithner's buddies, the people who paid for Obama), and then it goes to welfare recipients.
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Even if this is true, and it might be, it doesn't change what the OP said. Rooting out corruption and lowering taxes are not the same thing. Giving them LESS to give to people who don't deserve it, will not help the programs that do.
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On Wednesday, a phalanx of public sector employees, including SEIU, Illinois Education Association, Illinois Federation of Teachers, AFSCME, and AFL-CIO, rallied in support of the tax hike in the capital, Springfield. [^] These people are like robbers, instead of people who actually have a demand for their services and pay them their fair share that way, they get paid because the government forcibly confiscates real workers wealth and gives it to these loons. That's not free market.
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You're an idiot. The irony is, the school system plainly failed you, probably due to under funding, leading to the ignorance you show today. Your post is PROOF that these people are right.
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