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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    Ian Shlasko wrote:

    I really don't care if some complete stranger off in a dark room somewhere gets a brief glimpse of a silhouette of my body.

    It isn't a silhouette you moron it is a high resolution black and white image of your body.

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    http://www.livescience.com/technology/100106-airport-body-scanners-radiation.html[^] That's nice... Look, those are actual images from the scanners... I'm neither impressed nor afraid.

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      http://www.livescience.com/technology/100106-airport-body-scanners-radiation.html[^] That's nice... Look, those are actual images from the scanners... I'm neither impressed nor afraid.

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      CaptainSeeSharp
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      Ian Shlasko wrote:

      Look, those are actual images from the scanners

      Those are scaled down and blurred, the scanners can do a lot better than that. The only possible way those images could be legitimately low resolution and blurry is if Homeland Security made it a requirement to cap resolution and detail of the scanners. I fucking doubt it. When the machines are properly calibrated, you see a highres detailed image of your body.

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        Look, those are actual images from the scanners

        Those are scaled down and blurred, the scanners can do a lot better than that. The only possible way those images could be legitimately low resolution and blurry is if Homeland Security made it a requirement to cap resolution and detail of the scanners. I fucking doubt it. When the machines are properly calibrated, you see a highres detailed image of your body.

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        Ian Shlasko
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        Wikipedia has higher-resolution[^] versions of those same pictures. Also, from the article, the software automatically blurs facial features, so you can't be identified from the images. I'm still neither impressed or afraid. If you're trying to scare me, you're going to have to do a hell of a lot better than this.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          Wikipedia has higher-resolution[^] versions of those same pictures. Also, from the article, the software automatically blurs facial features, so you can't be identified from the images. I'm still neither impressed or afraid. If you're trying to scare me, you're going to have to do a hell of a lot better than this.

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Ian Shlasko wrote:

          Also, from the article, the software automatically blurs facial features, so you can't be identified from the images.

          I'm sure that is real hard to turn off. This is the first step toward a national biometric identity database, along with your fingerprints and retina scan on your national ID card. And it is humiliating and pathetic to submit yourself to pat downs and digital strip searches just to travel or go to court.

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            Also, from the article, the software automatically blurs facial features, so you can't be identified from the images.

            I'm sure that is real hard to turn off. This is the first step toward a national biometric identity database, along with your fingerprints and retina scan on your national ID card. And it is humiliating and pathetic to submit yourself to pat downs and digital strip searches just to travel or go to court.

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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            I'm sure that is real hard to turn off.

            Do you really think the TSA "agents" have the expertise necessary to hack the software to disable it?

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            This is the first step toward a national biometric identity database, along with your fingerprints and retina scan on your national ID card

            Fingerprints and retinas are virtually unique. 3D models of your body, not even including identifying marks like scars, birthmarks, or tattoos, don't seem that useful.

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            And it is humiliating and pathetic to submit yourself to pat downs and digital strip searches just to travel or go to court

            Being patted down is humiliating. Walking through a scanner is meaningless. I prefer the latter.

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              Also, from the article, the software automatically blurs facial features, so you can't be identified from the images.

              I'm sure that is real hard to turn off. This is the first step toward a national biometric identity database, along with your fingerprints and retina scan on your national ID card. And it is humiliating and pathetic to submit yourself to pat downs and digital strip searches just to travel or go to court.

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              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              I'm sure that is real hard to turn off.

              Once it's in the field, it'd probably be quite hard. Most of the crap that is out there is hard enough to keep working right, let alone altering how.

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              This is the first step toward a national biometric identity database, along with your fingerprints and retina scan on your national ID card.

              Something no one has really explained how it's so horrible. If the government wants to set you up, they can do it by going through your trash for about ten minutes. Oh, the horrors of being able to catch people who commit crimes.

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              And it is humiliating and pathetic to submit yourself to pat downs and digital strip searches just to travel or go to court.

              I'll agree to pathetic, but if you're humiliated you've got to get over yourself.

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                I'm sure that is real hard to turn off.

                Do you really think the TSA "agents" have the expertise necessary to hack the software to disable it?

                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                This is the first step toward a national biometric identity database, along with your fingerprints and retina scan on your national ID card

                Fingerprints and retinas are virtually unique. 3D models of your body, not even including identifying marks like scars, birthmarks, or tattoos, don't seem that useful.

                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                And it is humiliating and pathetic to submit yourself to pat downs and digital strip searches just to travel or go to court

                Being patted down is humiliating. Walking through a scanner is meaningless. I prefer the latter.

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                CaptainSeeSharp
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                You enjoy it then. If you want to submit yourself to the TSA and be under a high tech surveillance grid then be my guest. You heard about the real-time "smart" camera surveillance coming to your area soon haven't you? It does real-time behavioral analysis on all people in its view. Those cameras are going to be all over, you will be fully survailed in manhatten.

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                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  I'm sure that is real hard to turn off.

                  Once it's in the field, it'd probably be quite hard. Most of the crap that is out there is hard enough to keep working right, let alone altering how.

                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  This is the first step toward a national biometric identity database, along with your fingerprints and retina scan on your national ID card.

                  Something no one has really explained how it's so horrible. If the government wants to set you up, they can do it by going through your trash for about ten minutes. Oh, the horrors of being able to catch people who commit crimes.

                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  And it is humiliating and pathetic to submit yourself to pat downs and digital strip searches just to travel or go to court.

                  I'll agree to pathetic, but if you're humiliated you've got to get over yourself.

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                  I'm not talking about some hacker, I'm talking about when Homeland Security wants more detailed imagery it will get them, they can do it remotely if they want to. Its all about being tracked, traced, and databased in every way useful to the government. They want to be able to predict human behavior individually, groups, and societally. They want to be able to dial into any ID and know where that person is and what that person has been doing, how much that person weights, what he eats, his medical records, financial records, school records, height, body. They want to be able to watch people and cars. It is like a giant laboratory, once they get control and can watch us live in real time they can tweak society and monitor the results, and keep us in line.

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                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                    You enjoy it then. If you want to submit yourself to the TSA and be under a high tech surveillance grid then be my guest. You heard about the real-time "smart" camera surveillance coming to your area soon haven't you? It does real-time behavioral analysis on all people in its view. Those cameras are going to be all over, you will be fully survailed in manhatten.

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                    Ian Shlasko
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                    Wait a second... Are you telling me that if I go out in public, people might be LOOKING AT ME!?!? I had no idea! :omg: :omg: :omg: Was that sarcasm thick enough for you? You can't win the argument, so you're changing the subject to something only slightly related. New York City (The government, not business) is just about bankrupt. Even if the local government wanted to start videotaping everything, they don't have the funding for it.

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                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                      I really don't care if some complete stranger off in a dark room somewhere gets a brief glimpse of a silhouette of my body.

                      It isn't a silhouette you moron it is a high resolution black and white image of your body.

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                      RichardM1
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                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      high resolution black and white image

                      Yes and no. Yes, it is a high resolution gray scale image of your body, it also has some frequency information available in it ('color'). No, it is not like you standing naked in front of a black and white camera. The 'standard' image shown of a naked woman is not the result of t-wave imaging, it is a digital camera image of a naked woman. The variations between a visible light image and a t-wave image are many, including imaging into the person (seeing skin, bone (to some degree)) that is all wrapped up in the image you see, frequency representation. etc. If it makes you feel better, planes fly over you everyday that can take much higher resolution images from much further away, just because people carry cameras with zoom lenses. This does not even begin to discuss intelligence agencies using satellites, UAVs, manned spy planes, blimps, companies with surveillance cameras on buildings, Google spending all kinds of money getting pictures of the whole world, down to street view, people walking around the town with cameras, etc, or even the guy with the red tie who has been following you around town for so many months. All you have to do to not get imaged by this is to not fly. The rest of the stuff, you have no control over.

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        Wikipedia has higher-resolution[^] versions of those same pictures. Also, from the article, the software automatically blurs facial features, so you can't be identified from the images. I'm still neither impressed or afraid. If you're trying to scare me, you're going to have to do a hell of a lot better than this.

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                        RichardM1
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                        I'd have responded sooner, but after seeing those images, I needed some time alone.

                        Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                        • I Ian Shlasko

                          Wait a second... Are you telling me that if I go out in public, people might be LOOKING AT ME!?!? I had no idea! :omg: :omg: :omg: Was that sarcasm thick enough for you? You can't win the argument, so you're changing the subject to something only slightly related. New York City (The government, not business) is just about bankrupt. Even if the local government wanted to start videotaping everything, they don't have the funding for it.

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                          RichardM1
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                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          Wait a second... Are you telling me that if I go out in public, people might be LOOKING AT ME!?!? I had no idea! OMG OMG OMG

                          Golf clap.:thumbsup:

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                          • C CaptainSeeSharp

                            Ian Shlasko wrote:

                            Also, from the article, the software automatically blurs facial features, so you can't be identified from the images.

                            I'm sure that is real hard to turn off. This is the first step toward a national biometric identity database, along with your fingerprints and retina scan on your national ID card. And it is humiliating and pathetic to submit yourself to pat downs and digital strip searches just to travel or go to court.

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                            Did you not realize that the picture on your driver's license is biometric information? You height and weight are biometric information? Eye color? Are you scared of it because someone called it 'biometric', so it sounds all hi-tech and stuff? Air travel is a privilege, and it has some costs that you can choose to pay, to be able to travel, or not, by not traveling. Are you upset by all the diseases the government is testing when they hold hundreds of people captive in metal cylinders for hours? They even track them - remember the guy with TB who was supposed to be on the no-fly list?

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                              http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/TSA-Fracas-After-Body-Scanner-Reveals-TMI-92971929.html[^] Perhaps the new airport body scanners are a bit too revealing. A TSA worker in Miami was arrested for assault after police say he attacked a colleague who'd made fun of his small genitalia after he walked through one of the new high-tech security scanners during a recent training session. You people who support forcing everyone who wants to fly to go through these scanners. They are being put in courthouses and they have developed mobile units to screen people before they go into a shopping mall or sports center. Enjoy your strip searches, people who run these machines just like to dominate people, they like their petty power and they will grab your breasts and feel your crotch if they like the way you look. When wand beeps, they have to touch the area with the wand.

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                              Imagine having your photo on the web with a story saying you have a small dick. This guy is almost as much of a loser as someone who keeps posting to a website where everyone thinks they are a pathetic, paranoid, misinformed joke.

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                              they like their petty power and they will grab your breasts and feel your crotch if they like the way you look.

                              Sounds like someone has a bit of a fantasy going on.

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                                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                I really don't care if some complete stranger off in a dark room somewhere gets a brief glimpse of a silhouette of my body.

                                It isn't a silhouette you moron it is a high resolution black and white image of your body.

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                                It's fascinating to me that no matter how many times it's proven that your high priests are liars, you just keep retelling the lie.

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                                • I Ian Shlasko

                                  Oh well... If I ever do arouse enough suspicion to be subjected to a pat-down (Hasn't happened yet, and I travel by air at least a couple times a year), I'll just have to hope that the guy isn't gay, huh? Either that, or I could just step through the body scanners, when they install them in my airport, as I really don't care if some complete stranger off in a dark room somewhere gets a brief glimpse of a silhouette of my body.

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                                  I got patted down my first time through Texas. That was the only time, and I fly a good 10 times a year, for several years now. And if I have to be patted down, I don't care if they guy is gay or not. Why would I ? I'm sure he knows if he stops for a lingering feel, his job is on the line. So, as long as I'm subjected to the same pat down, why would I care what it means to a random stranger I'll never meet again ? How would I even know ?

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                                    I'm not talking about some hacker, I'm talking about when Homeland Security wants more detailed imagery it will get them, they can do it remotely if they want to. Its all about being tracked, traced, and databased in every way useful to the government. They want to be able to predict human behavior individually, groups, and societally. They want to be able to dial into any ID and know where that person is and what that person has been doing, how much that person weights, what he eats, his medical records, financial records, school records, height, body. They want to be able to watch people and cars. It is like a giant laboratory, once they get control and can watch us live in real time they can tweak society and monitor the results, and keep us in line.

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                                    I would think a photograph of a person fully clothed would be more useful to the government if they were tracking you. Unless you are a nudist! X|

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                                      I got patted down my first time through Texas. That was the only time, and I fly a good 10 times a year, for several years now. And if I have to be patted down, I don't care if they guy is gay or not. Why would I ? I'm sure he knows if he stops for a lingering feel, his job is on the line. So, as long as I'm subjected to the same pat down, why would I care what it means to a random stranger I'll never meet again ? How would I even know ?

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      Ian Shlasko
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                                      Completely agreed. I honestly don't care whether they're enjoying it, as long as they do their jobs and don't try anything else... Just making a point for CSS :)

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                                      • I Ian Shlasko

                                        Completely agreed. I honestly don't care whether they're enjoying it, as long as they do their jobs and don't try anything else... Just making a point for CSS :)

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                                        CSS might enjoy the pat over the photo as it is the only feelup he is likely to get! :)

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          I'm not talking about some hacker, I'm talking about when Homeland Security wants more detailed imagery it will get them, they can do it remotely if they want to. Its all about being tracked, traced, and databased in every way useful to the government. They want to be able to predict human behavior individually, groups, and societally. They want to be able to dial into any ID and know where that person is and what that person has been doing, how much that person weights, what he eats, his medical records, financial records, school records, height, body. They want to be able to watch people and cars. It is like a giant laboratory, once they get control and can watch us live in real time they can tweak society and monitor the results, and keep us in line.

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                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          They want to be able to predict human behavior individually, groups, and societally.

                                          *First thought in my head* Oh no! The sociologists are coming! Now here's the problem, how is any of this bad? None of it is on it's own, short the right to privacy which would more or less have to be overturned to track someone while on private property. But note the 'private property' portion of that before you go on with your screed.

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