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Hyperinflation? Fed Restarts Currency Swaps as EU Debt Crisis Flares

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  • G Gonzoox

    Ian Shlasko wrote:

    When are you going to realize that you don't know a damn thing about economics?

    me, me!!! please, me!!! I know the answer, please... me!!!

    I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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    Ian Shlasko
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    Does your answer involve airborne mammals, rapid regional cooling, or primates emerging from a very uncomfortable place (Like the back of a volkswagen)?

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      Does your answer involve airborne mammals, rapid regional cooling, or primates emerging from a very uncomfortable place (Like the back of a volkswagen)?

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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      Simon_Whale
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      none of those but i have a large box, a very very large amount of stamps enough for a i reckon a 400lb wanna be conspiracey theorist and an address for a warm place in africa.. oh did i mention the animal tranquilisers to knock him out and lots of chains and padlocks to make sure he dont escape :laugh:

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      • I Ian Shlasko

        Does your answer involve airborne mammals, rapid regional cooling, or primates emerging from a very uncomfortable place (Like the back of a volkswagen)?

        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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        ragnaroknrol
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        I wish I could give you a 5 for this post. Especially the mall Rats reference.

        If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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          I wish I could give you a 5 for this post. Especially the mall Rats reference.

          If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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          Ian Shlasko
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          I'm a big Kevin Smith fan :)

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=amiI5qIW8gDI[^] So the Fed just completely "opens the vaults" to the EU. They will give them as much money as they need, no need to ask for it, just take it.

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            Simon_Whale
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            Can i ask a sensible question? Do you understand the implications if Greece goes bankrupt?

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              Can i ask a sensible question? Do you understand the implications if Greece goes bankrupt?

              Marc Clifton wrote:

              That has nothing to do with VB. - Oh crap. I just defended VB!

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              Simon_Whale wrote:

              Do you understand the implications if Greece goes bankrupt?

              Greek already is bankrupt, that is why they are getting bailed out. This is only going to cause a currency crisis. The world is bailing out the world, everybody is going to be hit by this. You can't do this without serious consequences. It only delays the inevitable, and makes the situation worse in the long run.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Simon_Whale wrote:

                Do you understand the implications if Greece goes bankrupt?

                Greek already is bankrupt, that is why they are getting bailed out. This is only going to cause a currency crisis. The world is bailing out the world, everybody is going to be hit by this. You can't do this without serious consequences. It only delays the inevitable, and makes the situation worse in the long run.

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                Simon_Whale
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                yes and the curreny crisis even effects you, so your government is doing its bit too stop it effecting you. so i dont get the consiparecy / problem in what you've put or would you rather be un employed as a result of not helping?

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                  yes and the curreny crisis even effects you, so your government is doing its bit too stop it effecting you. so i dont get the consiparecy / problem in what you've put or would you rather be un employed as a result of not helping?

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

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                  ragnaroknrol
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                  Simon_Whale wrote:

                  or would you rather be un employed as a result of not helping?

                  This implies there is a shortage at a place that asks if they want fries with that...

                  If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                  • S Simon_Whale

                    yes and the curreny crisis even effects you, so your government is doing its bit too stop it effecting you. so i dont get the consiparecy / problem in what you've put or would you rather be un employed as a result of not helping?

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    They are creating the currency crisis by flooding the world with new money, the world trying to bail out the world with inflation is not going to work. They are making the situation worse by trying to delay it.

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                    • S Simon_Whale

                      yes and the curreny crisis even effects you, so your government is doing its bit too stop it effecting you. so i dont get the consiparecy / problem in what you've put or would you rather be un employed as a result of not helping?

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      That has nothing to do with VB. - Oh crap. I just defended VB!

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                      Gonzoox
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                      what? McD is no longer hiring?

                      I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                        They are creating the currency crisis by flooding the world with new money, the world trying to bail out the world with inflation is not going to work. They are making the situation worse by trying to delay it.

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                        Simon_Whale
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                        i disagree.. if a country defaults on the payments then their credit rating fails, if it fails then the interest goes up if too many bond investors loose money they will be afraid to lend to countries. countries borrow money to function.. they can't borrow where would they get if from in the end.. the likes of the average man. making your life a misery!!!

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                          i disagree.. if a country defaults on the payments then their credit rating fails, if it fails then the interest goes up if too many bond investors loose money they will be afraid to lend to countries. countries borrow money to function.. they can't borrow where would they get if from in the end.. the likes of the average man. making your life a misery!!!

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                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                          Simon_Whale wrote:

                          if a country defaults on the payments then their credit rating fails, if it fails then the interest goes up if too many bond investors loose money they will be afraid to lend to countries. countries borrow money to function.. they can't borrow where would they get if from in the end.. the likes of the average man. making your life a misery!!!

                          All of this is going to happen regardless, but much worse than what is would have been if the correction came sooner than later.

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                            Simon_Whale wrote:

                            if a country defaults on the payments then their credit rating fails, if it fails then the interest goes up if too many bond investors loose money they will be afraid to lend to countries. countries borrow money to function.. they can't borrow where would they get if from in the end.. the likes of the average man. making your life a misery!!!

                            All of this is going to happen regardless, but much worse than what is would have been if the correction came sooner than later.

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                            more than likely but i'd rather try to avert the problem.. and then fix it from happening again.. the human race has been most successful in learning from its mistakes, not from preventing them

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                              more than likely but i'd rather try to avert the problem.. and then fix it from happening again.. the human race has been most successful in learning from its mistakes, not from preventing them

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                              CaptainSeeSharp
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                              Simon_Whale wrote:

                              and then fix it from happening again

                              So you wouldn't mind hyperinflation then? That is all this money creation leads to. There can be no recovery under these conditions, just temporary delays. The harder they try to delay the inevitable, the harder and longer the correction will be.

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                                Simon_Whale wrote:

                                and then fix it from happening again

                                So you wouldn't mind hyperinflation then? That is all this money creation leads to. There can be no recovery under these conditions, just temporary delays. The harder they try to delay the inevitable, the harder and longer the correction will be.

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                                Simon_Whale
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                                so how would you fix this then? by ignoring the problem?

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                                  so how would you fix this then? by ignoring the problem?

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                                  CaptainSeeSharp
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                                  A handful of people in high places cannot "fix" the world's economies. The economy will fix itself, the economy is every person on the planet who trades goods and services. Each one of these people must react and adjust to the situation, according to his her own situation. The central banks and governments are simply trying to delay this to the best of their abilities, but they are also making the inevitable correction much more severe. In fact they are destroying the economies, the reset will be catastrophic due to their manipulation.

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                                    A handful of people in high places cannot "fix" the world's economies. The economy will fix itself, the economy is every person on the planet who trades goods and services. Each one of these people must react and adjust to the situation, according to his her own situation. The central banks and governments are simply trying to delay this to the best of their abilities, but they are also making the inevitable correction much more severe. In fact they are destroying the economies, the reset will be catastrophic due to their manipulation.

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                                    Simon_Whale
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                                    yes we can't change it personaly, but in your opinion how would or do you think it could be "fixed"

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                                      Simon_Whale wrote:

                                      Do you understand the implications if Greece goes bankrupt?

                                      Greek already is bankrupt, that is why they are getting bailed out. This is only going to cause a currency crisis. The world is bailing out the world, everybody is going to be hit by this. You can't do this without serious consequences. It only delays the inevitable, and makes the situation worse in the long run.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      Greek already is bankrupt

                                      O.K. What are the implications of Greece's bankruptcy, then?

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      The world is bailing out the world

                                      The IMF's contribution to the EU rescue fund is $250 billion (of which the USA's share is $50b). To put this into perspective, European companies wrote off over $380b in bad debt last year.

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      everybody is going to be hit by this.

                                      And what will be the nature of those hits?

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      You can't do this without serious consequences.

                                      And what will be the nature of these consequences?

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      It only delays the inevitable

                                      The inevitable what?

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      and makes the situation worse in the long run

                                      Exactly how?

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                                        Simon_Whale wrote:

                                        and then fix it from happening again

                                        So you wouldn't mind hyperinflation then? That is all this money creation leads to. There can be no recovery under these conditions, just temporary delays. The harder they try to delay the inevitable, the harder and longer the correction will be.

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                                        Lost User
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                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        That is all this money creation leads to.

                                        Unless ...? What other factors may come into play?

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        There can be no recovery under these conditions, just temporary delays.

                                        Why?

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        The harder they try to delay the inevitable

                                        The inevitable what?

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        the harder and longer the correction will be.

                                        Correction of what?

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          A handful of people in high places cannot "fix" the world's economies. The economy will fix itself, the economy is every person on the planet who trades goods and services. Each one of these people must react and adjust to the situation, according to his her own situation. The central banks and governments are simply trying to delay this to the best of their abilities, but they are also making the inevitable correction much more severe. In fact they are destroying the economies, the reset will be catastrophic due to their manipulation.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          The economy will fix itself

                                          Much as 'water will find its own level'. But 'people in high places' decree that canals, drains, irrigation systems, reservoirs, dams, dykes, etc. are built. Sometimes with unintended consequences, true, but generally to the benefit of mankind.

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          the reset will be catastrophic due to their manipulation.

                                          Why? The impact of letting the world's economy fix itself. The impact of letting the world's economy fix itself after the intervention. Compare and contrast. You are merely parroting what you have read. You understand nothing.

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