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Ron Paul settles the accusitions of racism directed toward Rand Paul.

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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTEdFW6ZUQY&feature=PlayList&p=9DE3388ED7F39C85&playnext_from=PL&index=1[^]

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    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    Never mind the fact that EVERYBODY is racist, but only white people are so scared that they must prove to everyone that they are not racist.

    It follows, then, that you must believe Ron and Rand to be merely pretending not to be racist. Therefore, you must now believe them to be liars. Which means that you cannot now trust any statement they may make as being other than a device to obtain office. Just another politician. :sigh: (Unless you do not really believe that EVERYBODY is racist. In which case the liar is ...)

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    • C CaptainSeeSharp

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTEdFW6ZUQY&feature=PlayList&p=9DE3388ED7F39C85&playnext_from=PL&index=1[^]

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      Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better. I think I'm going to enjoy November.

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      • I Ian Shlasko

        First of all, the accusations aren't that he's racist, but that he supports OTHER peoples' right to be racist. There's a difference, which I'm sure you can't comprehend. Anyway, he didn't settle it at all. He went on an on about how this was already decided in the 60s, and it shouldn't be brought up now. That's not settling it. That's avoiding it. He spent a good five seconds in that entire speech, giving a vague justification of his son's viewpoint without any real explanation ("It doesn't make economic sense" to discriminate... "It's silly")... For the rest, he was just trying to distract from the issue. I don't see how the Libertarians expect people to understand their position (Which does merit some discussion), if they don't explain it to the general public when they have the opportunity.

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        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        He spent a good five seconds in that entire speech, giving a vague justification of his son's viewpoint without any real explanation ("It doesn't make economic sense" to discriminate... "It's silly")... For the rest, he was just trying to distract from the issue.

        Oh look, it's what a number of us assumed they'd say. I mean, it's not like any of these rich white people would ever be discriminated against, who could possibly have a problem with discrimination. Since the only thing anyone values is money what possible motivation would anyone have to discriminate? I'd wonder where they become disconnected with reality, but that'd require finding a connection in the first place.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          Libertarians don't compromise with criminals, and the party is not small. Most people want the libertarian model, except for those who get free money from the government. Those who get free money from the government are excited about the criminality. They just want to loot the producers.

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          except for those who get free money from the government.

          Thus excluding state with a highway system.

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          • I Ian Shlasko

            First of all, the accusations aren't that he's racist, but that he supports OTHER peoples' right to be racist. There's a difference, which I'm sure you can't comprehend. Anyway, he didn't settle it at all. He went on an on about how this was already decided in the 60s, and it shouldn't be brought up now. That's not settling it. That's avoiding it. He spent a good five seconds in that entire speech, giving a vague justification of his son's viewpoint without any real explanation ("It doesn't make economic sense" to discriminate... "It's silly")... For the rest, he was just trying to distract from the issue. I don't see how the Libertarians expect people to understand their position (Which does merit some discussion), if they don't explain it to the general public when they have the opportunity.

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            First of all, the accusations aren't that he's racist, but that he supports OTHER peoples' right to be racist. There's a difference, which I'm sure you can't comprehend. Anyway, he didn't settle it at all.

            This is exactly how I've seen Ron Paul's views. They're not racists, but they confuse a business with a person and businesses aren't people. Putting aside the supreme court's decision that businesses have the right to free speech, businesses have no right to discriminate since they're the entity under the law not the business owner that is being regulated. This is the difference that the law makes. Since a business isn't a person with morals, and ethics it has very limited rights. As was explained to me by a lawyer, the lawyer representing the business isn't necessarily representing the interests of the business owner that is why he recommended getting a separate lawyer for the owner of a business in another firm. I'm sure this part will be lost on some. Libertarians expect a free market of morals and ethics to resolve the pettiness of idiots, bigots and morons who either run companies or are put in power. Ron and his son are just like any other politician, anyway, blame the supposedly leftist media, run to fox for a fake hard hitting interview, claim biased and avoid owning it so they can make money from donations. Wash, rinse, repeat ad nauseaum. This is the politician way.

            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTEdFW6ZUQY&feature=PlayList&p=9DE3388ED7F39C85&playnext_from=PL&index=1[^]

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              Wasn't one of the goals of the Tea Party to get rid of the whole hereditary political positions thing?

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                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                He spent a good five seconds in that entire speech, giving a vague justification of his son's viewpoint without any real explanation ("It doesn't make economic sense" to discriminate... "It's silly")... For the rest, he was just trying to distract from the issue.

                Oh look, it's what a number of us assumed they'd say. I mean, it's not like any of these rich white people would ever be discriminated against, who could possibly have a problem with discrimination. Since the only thing anyone values is money what possible motivation would anyone have to discriminate? I'd wonder where they become disconnected with reality, but that'd require finding a connection in the first place.

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                Don't worry about it. White will be the minority in America in less than a generation. Then they'll start getting discriminated against and start bitching.

                If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTEdFW6ZUQY&feature=PlayList&p=9DE3388ED7F39C85&playnext_from=PL&index=1[^]

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                  ragnaroknrol
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                  So... Why couldn't Rand settle this when given the opportunity for much longer? And why would anyone want someone in office that has to go crying to poppy to fix things? (I think 8 years of a President with daddy issues was more than enough, thankyouverymuch.)

                  If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                  • R ragnaroknrol

                    So... Why couldn't Rand settle this when given the opportunity for much longer? And why would anyone want someone in office that has to go crying to poppy to fix things? (I think 8 years of a President with daddy issues was more than enough, thankyouverymuch.)

                    If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                    Rand Paul is no Bush, he is a Paul.

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                      Wasn't one of the goals of the Tea Party to get rid of the whole hereditary political positions thing?

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                      The Tea Party want to vote in people that truly represent their libertarian model. Ron Paul is certainly #1, Rand Paul well, they voted him in. It was a landslide victory.

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                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                        The Tea Party want to vote in people that truly represent their libertarian model. Ron Paul is certainly #1, Rand Paul well, they voted him in. It was a landslide victory.

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                        They didn't vote him in... They selected him as a nominee. He's now the GOP candidate for the position. Still has to beat the DNC candidate to actually get the job.

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                          Rand Paul is no Bush, he is a Paul.

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

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                          • D Distind

                            Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better. I think I'm going to enjoy November.

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                            Distind wrote:

                            Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better.

                            Yes, Ron Paul is certainly #1.

                            Distind wrote:

                            I think I'm going to enjoy November. Quote Selected Text

                            Me too.

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                            • C CaptainSeeSharp

                              Rand Paul is no Bush, he is a Paul.

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                              ragnaroknrol
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                              This changes my comment how? Rand Paul gets on a show and skirts around an answer and when he finally answers is shown to not really understand that people are a-sholes and acting as if a free market will somehow correct this is just plain stupid. Rand Paul then has daddy come and attempt to bail him out. (You will of course pick 1 sentence that is in here that is not the main point and argue that. I would even bet it is this or the previous sentence.)

                              If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                              • I Ian Shlasko

                                They didn't vote him in... They selected him as a nominee. He's now the GOP candidate for the position. Still has to beat the DNC candidate to actually get the job.

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                                Considering how he's managing to swallow his own foot, I'd not bother spending much on this campaign as the Dems. His campaign is probably the best way for them to advertise. "Vote for me, I'm not that loon."

                                If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  Distind wrote:

                                  Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better.

                                  Yes, Ron Paul is certainly #1.

                                  Distind wrote:

                                  I think I'm going to enjoy November. Quote Selected Text

                                  Me too.

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  I thought he was a steaming pile of number two ?

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                                    Considering how he's managing to swallow his own foot, I'd not bother spending much on this campaign as the Dems. His campaign is probably the best way for them to advertise. "Vote for me, I'm not that loon."

                                    If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                    That's ok... When Paul Jr. loses by an even larger margin than he won the GOP nomination, CSS will be whining and complaining about how it's all a big conspiracy to stop the Teabaggers from getting any power. He will of course assume that "everyone" wants the libs in congress, and to say otherwise is criminal.

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      I thought he was a steaming pile of number two ?

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                                      Ian Shlasko
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                                      I thought that was Bono[^]...

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                                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                        The Tea Party want to vote in people that truly represent their libertarian model. Ron Paul is certainly #1, Rand Paul well, they voted him in. It was a landslide victory.

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                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        It was a landslide victory.

                                        Since only 7% of registered voters in Kentucky voted for him, I would not call it a landslide. In the democratic primary, two separate candidates received more votes than Paul did. I'd say he's got a long way to go to win the seat.

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          Distind wrote:

                                          Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better.

                                          Yes, Ron Paul is certainly #1.

                                          Distind wrote:

                                          I think I'm going to enjoy November. Quote Selected Text

                                          Me too.

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                                          And you claim to advocate personal responsibility, but you condone someone running to daddy to have them vaguely excuse their behavior? I'd have less of a problem with him if he'd just man up and say it, 'I support people who wish to discriminate'. It's consistent with his ideals, it's what he's implying, but it's also political suicide via spork without a second. Instead he shows all the signs of another political jackass by dancing around what he means.

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