Ron Paul settles the accusitions of racism directed toward Rand Paul.
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Libertarians don't compromise with criminals, and the party is not small. Most people want the libertarian model, except for those who get free money from the government. Those who get free money from the government are excited about the criminality. They just want to loot the producers.
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First of all, the accusations aren't that he's racist, but that he supports OTHER peoples' right to be racist. There's a difference, which I'm sure you can't comprehend. Anyway, he didn't settle it at all. He went on an on about how this was already decided in the 60s, and it shouldn't be brought up now. That's not settling it. That's avoiding it. He spent a good five seconds in that entire speech, giving a vague justification of his son's viewpoint without any real explanation ("It doesn't make economic sense" to discriminate... "It's silly")... For the rest, he was just trying to distract from the issue. I don't see how the Libertarians expect people to understand their position (Which does merit some discussion), if they don't explain it to the general public when they have the opportunity.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
First of all, the accusations aren't that he's racist, but that he supports OTHER peoples' right to be racist. There's a difference, which I'm sure you can't comprehend. Anyway, he didn't settle it at all.
This is exactly how I've seen Ron Paul's views. They're not racists, but they confuse a business with a person and businesses aren't people. Putting aside the supreme court's decision that businesses have the right to free speech, businesses have no right to discriminate since they're the entity under the law not the business owner that is being regulated. This is the difference that the law makes. Since a business isn't a person with morals, and ethics it has very limited rights. As was explained to me by a lawyer, the lawyer representing the business isn't necessarily representing the interests of the business owner that is why he recommended getting a separate lawyer for the owner of a business in another firm. I'm sure this part will be lost on some. Libertarians expect a free market of morals and ethics to resolve the pettiness of idiots, bigots and morons who either run companies or are put in power. Ron and his son are just like any other politician, anyway, blame the supposedly leftist media, run to fox for a fake hard hitting interview, claim biased and avoid owning it so they can make money from donations. Wash, rinse, repeat ad nauseaum. This is the politician way.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Wasn't one of the goals of the Tea Party to get rid of the whole hereditary political positions thing?
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
He spent a good five seconds in that entire speech, giving a vague justification of his son's viewpoint without any real explanation ("It doesn't make economic sense" to discriminate... "It's silly")... For the rest, he was just trying to distract from the issue.
Oh look, it's what a number of us assumed they'd say. I mean, it's not like any of these rich white people would ever be discriminated against, who could possibly have a problem with discrimination. Since the only thing anyone values is money what possible motivation would anyone have to discriminate? I'd wonder where they become disconnected with reality, but that'd require finding a connection in the first place.
Don't worry about it. White will be the minority in America in less than a generation. Then they'll start getting discriminated against and start bitching.
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So... Why couldn't Rand settle this when given the opportunity for much longer? And why would anyone want someone in office that has to go crying to poppy to fix things? (I think 8 years of a President with daddy issues was more than enough, thankyouverymuch.)
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So... Why couldn't Rand settle this when given the opportunity for much longer? And why would anyone want someone in office that has to go crying to poppy to fix things? (I think 8 years of a President with daddy issues was more than enough, thankyouverymuch.)
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Wasn't one of the goals of the Tea Party to get rid of the whole hereditary political positions thing?
The Tea Party want to vote in people that truly represent their libertarian model. Ron Paul is certainly #1, Rand Paul well, they voted him in. It was a landslide victory.
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The Tea Party want to vote in people that truly represent their libertarian model. Ron Paul is certainly #1, Rand Paul well, they voted him in. It was a landslide victory.
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They didn't vote him in... They selected him as a nominee. He's now the GOP candidate for the position. Still has to beat the DNC candidate to actually get the job.
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Rand Paul is no Bush, he is a Paul.
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Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better. I think I'm going to enjoy November.
Distind wrote:
Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better.
Yes, Ron Paul is certainly #1.
Distind wrote:
I think I'm going to enjoy November. Quote Selected Text
Me too.
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Rand Paul is no Bush, he is a Paul.
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This changes my comment how? Rand Paul gets on a show and skirts around an answer and when he finally answers is shown to not really understand that people are a-sholes and acting as if a free market will somehow correct this is just plain stupid. Rand Paul then has daddy come and attempt to bail him out. (You will of course pick 1 sentence that is in here that is not the main point and argue that. I would even bet it is this or the previous sentence.)
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They didn't vote him in... They selected him as a nominee. He's now the GOP candidate for the position. Still has to beat the DNC candidate to actually get the job.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Considering how he's managing to swallow his own foot, I'd not bother spending much on this campaign as the Dems. His campaign is probably the best way for them to advertise. "Vote for me, I'm not that loon."
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Distind wrote:
Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better.
Yes, Ron Paul is certainly #1.
Distind wrote:
I think I'm going to enjoy November. Quote Selected Text
Me too.
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I thought he was a steaming pile of number two ?
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Considering how he's managing to swallow his own foot, I'd not bother spending much on this campaign as the Dems. His campaign is probably the best way for them to advertise. "Vote for me, I'm not that loon."
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
That's ok... When Paul Jr. loses by an even larger margin than he won the GOP nomination, CSS will be whining and complaining about how it's all a big conspiracy to stop the Teabaggers from getting any power. He will of course assume that "everyone" wants the libs in congress, and to say otherwise is criminal.
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I thought he was a steaming pile of number two ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The Tea Party want to vote in people that truly represent their libertarian model. Ron Paul is certainly #1, Rand Paul well, they voted him in. It was a landslide victory.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It was a landslide victory.
Since only 7% of registered voters in Kentucky voted for him, I would not call it a landslide. In the democratic primary, two separate candidates received more votes than Paul did. I'd say he's got a long way to go to win the seat.
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Distind wrote:
Yes, because Daddy can always come along and make things better.
Yes, Ron Paul is certainly #1.
Distind wrote:
I think I'm going to enjoy November. Quote Selected Text
Me too.
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And you claim to advocate personal responsibility, but you condone someone running to daddy to have them vaguely excuse their behavior? I'd have less of a problem with him if he'd just man up and say it, 'I support people who wish to discriminate'. It's consistent with his ideals, it's what he's implying, but it's also political suicide via spork without a second. Instead he shows all the signs of another political jackass by dancing around what he means.
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The Tea Party want to vote in people that truly represent their libertarian model. Ron Paul is certainly #1, Rand Paul well, they voted him in. It was a landslide victory.
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Anyone else take posts like this as a wonderful explanation of the tea party's understanding of the political process in this country? They won a few primaries, and apparently that means they've been voted into office in their minds. By a Randslide even. But still, by all means, keep hammering away at those moderates, drive all of the impure from your party, I'd love to see if the democrats would have the balls to actually do something if they had a solid voting majority.
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And you claim to advocate personal responsibility, but you condone someone running to daddy to have them vaguely excuse their behavior? I'd have less of a problem with him if he'd just man up and say it, 'I support people who wish to discriminate'. It's consistent with his ideals, it's what he's implying, but it's also political suicide via spork without a second. Instead he shows all the signs of another political jackass by dancing around what he means.
Distind wrote:
but it's also political suicide via spork without a second
This is one of the best mental images I have had all die. you deserve a :beer:
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That's ok... When Paul Jr. loses by an even larger margin than he won the GOP nomination, CSS will be whining and complaining about how it's all a big conspiracy to stop the Teabaggers from getting any power. He will of course assume that "everyone" wants the libs in congress, and to say otherwise is criminal.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
complaining about how it's all a big conspiracy to stop the Teabaggers from getting any power.
Well it is... You weren't supposed to tell anyone, btw. The plan was to raise their hopes and dash them on the rocks at the last second. It was going to be a masterful killing blow to them now that their friend the Gormogon is dead.
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