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    Did you miss the point of the article completely? I mean beyond the 'Oh noes, people with money are meeting' bits. If anything they're afraid of the euro collapsing and causing significant unrest and further economic trouble.

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    If they aren't up to no good, why are they so secretive even after years of protests against them?

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      If they aren't up to no good, why are they so secretive even after years of protests against them?

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      And why do the American ones get away with breaking federal law? "The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act[^]

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        http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7142478.ece[^] So...you stupid fucking morons still believe Bilderberg is some made up conspiracy theory?

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        Who cares if it exists, and what does its existence have to do with the conspiracy theory? That's like saying "Look at this map! Here's PROOF that Roswell, New Mexico exists! That must mean aliens landed there!" It's ok, though... We all know how you think. If a public figure does something completely unthinkable, like step into a room without a camera pointed at him, then you think it's a conspiracy.

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          Who cares if it exists, and what does its existence have to do with the conspiracy theory? That's like saying "Look at this map! Here's PROOF that Roswell, New Mexico exists! That must mean aliens landed there!" It's ok, though... We all know how you think. If a public figure does something completely unthinkable, like step into a room without a camera pointed at him, then you think it's a conspiracy.

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          The point is that you denied that federal officials, law makers, high powered CEOs and executives from the largest banks, media empires, food production, education, and so on get together in secretive meetings every year.

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            And why do the American ones get away with breaking federal law? "The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act[^]

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            Ian Shlasko
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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

            Keyword: negotiating. If I tried to negotiate a trade agreement with the Prime Minister of Britain, it'd be felony. If I played golf* with him, or *gasp* had a drink with him at a classy resort, where's the crime? * I don't play golf, but that's what rich people do. Personally, I think miniature golf is more fun.

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              The point is that you denied that federal officials, law makers, high powered CEOs and executives from the largest banks, media empires, food production, education, and so on get together in secretive meetings every year.

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              Ian Shlasko
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              The point is that rich people like to hang out with other rich people, and that being in the same room doesn't mean they're plotting world domination.

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                Who cares if it exists, and what does its existence have to do with the conspiracy theory? That's like saying "Look at this map! Here's PROOF that Roswell, New Mexico exists! That must mean aliens landed there!" It's ok, though... We all know how you think. If a public figure does something completely unthinkable, like step into a room without a camera pointed at him, then you think it's a conspiracy.

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                Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                Here's PROOF that Roswell, New Mexico exists! That must mean aliens landed there!"

                Have I mentioned that we're moving to a former military research facility (still a fed facility, just not military anymore) not far fromn Roswell? Don't want to say more because that'd ruin all those conspiracy theories... ;)

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                  Ian Shlasko wrote:

                  Here's PROOF that Roswell, New Mexico exists! That must mean aliens landed there!"

                  Have I mentioned that we're moving to a former military research facility (still a fed facility, just not military anymore) not far fromn Roswell? Don't want to say more because that'd ruin all those conspiracy theories... ;)

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                  Don't forget to duck when the UFOs fly overhead! I know they're great at dodging asteroids, comets, black holes, and other interstellar hazards, but they have a little trouble with above-ground power lines.

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                    Don't forget to duck when the UFOs fly overhead! I know they're great at dodging asteroids, comets, black holes, and other interstellar hazards, but they have a little trouble with above-ground power lines.

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                    I personally plan on researching the theory that the aliens that crashed in Roswell were actually on a mission to exhume and re-animate Billy the Kid. :-D

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                      And why do the American ones get away with breaking federal law? "The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act[^]

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                      Well I guess because they aren't "negotiating" with foreign governments, they're talking with those people as people. For example, the Dutch prime minister (the last 3 have all participated in Bilderberg Group meetings) is not the Dutch government, he's the head of the Council of Ministers.

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                      • L Lost User

                        I personally plan on researching the theory that the aliens that crashed in Roswell were actually on a mission to exhume and re-animate Billy the Kid. :-D

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                        I'd say that conspiracy is just as credible as the UFO landing itself :)

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                        • L Lost User

                          If they aren't up to no good, why are they so secretive even after years of protests against them?

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                          Because there are plenty of people who'd love to stuff a bomb in a room full of people who make that much money every year? Because they'd rather make the money themselves than declaring publicly what they intend on doing? Because it's a bunch of business assholes who probably spend the entire time squabbling over completely pointless shit? My point was mostly that the article had absolutely nothing to say about his point.

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                          • I Ian Shlasko

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

                            Keyword: negotiating. If I tried to negotiate a trade agreement with the Prime Minister of Britain, it'd be felony. If I played golf* with him, or *gasp* had a drink with him at a classy resort, where's the crime? * I don't play golf, but that's what rich people do. Personally, I think miniature golf is more fun.

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                            I've seen people have fun while golfing, they had one of the golf bags replaced with a keg on the back of the golf cart, but they were certainly enjoying themselves.

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                              I've seen people have fun while golfing, they had one of the golf bags replaced with a keg on the back of the golf cart, but they were certainly enjoying themselves.

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                              Ian Shlasko
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                              Ahhh, so that's the secret! I KNEW there was a conspiracy! No one could possibly enjoy golf! :laugh:

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                                Because there are plenty of people who'd love to stuff a bomb in a room full of people who make that much money every year? Because they'd rather make the money themselves than declaring publicly what they intend on doing? Because it's a bunch of business assholes who probably spend the entire time squabbling over completely pointless shit? My point was mostly that the article had absolutely nothing to say about his point.

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                                Your point is valid :) But that first part..? Ok, but then what is their excuse for evading almost every question about what they're up to? It may all be pointless sh*t, but then why don't they just prove it. That wouldn't actually hurt, would it. And the secrecy does hurt, PR wise at least. I guess my point is, their secrecy would only help them if the truth is worse than the lie. And they are not dumb people, so they know this.

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                                  I'd say that conspiracy is just as credible as the UFO landing itself :)

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                                  Hey, that's what I figured. A little publicity, a little chutzpah and I should be able to build an entire tourist industry around it. Something to sustain me in my dotage, doncha know.

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                                    Your point is valid :) But that first part..? Ok, but then what is their excuse for evading almost every question about what they're up to? It may all be pointless sh*t, but then why don't they just prove it. That wouldn't actually hurt, would it. And the secrecy does hurt, PR wise at least. I guess my point is, their secrecy would only help them if the truth is worse than the lie. And they are not dumb people, so they know this.

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                                    harold aptroot wrote:

                                    It may all be pointless sh*t, but then why don't they just prove it

                                    Would answering the questions prove it? If they went on record saying "No, we're not talking about world domination," would people actually believe them? I mean, if the conspiracy theory WAS true (Hypothetically), they would lie about it anyway. So answering the questions does not suffice... What would constitute proof? Bringing a camera in there? I thought the entire point was to get away from the media for a little while... You know... A vacation.

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                                      I personally plan on researching the theory that the aliens that crashed in Roswell were actually on a mission to exhume and re-animate Billy the Kid. :-D

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                                      LunaticFringe wrote:

                                      the aliens that crashed in Roswell were actually on a mission to exhume and re-animate Billy the Kid.

                                      One does not have to be a published science fiction writer to recognize ONE HELL of a great sci-fi book plot when one sees it. I bet we could get this as a B-movie produced by SyFy.

                                      If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                        LunaticFringe wrote:

                                        the aliens that crashed in Roswell were actually on a mission to exhume and re-animate Billy the Kid.

                                        One does not have to be a published science fiction writer to recognize ONE HELL of a great sci-fi book plot when one sees it. I bet we could get this as a B-movie produced by SyFy.

                                        If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                        Hey, I can contribute the odd concept (in more than one sense); all we need to do is get someone to write it. Let's see... who do we know... ;) :-D

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                                          Your point is valid :) But that first part..? Ok, but then what is their excuse for evading almost every question about what they're up to? It may all be pointless sh*t, but then why don't they just prove it. That wouldn't actually hurt, would it. And the secrecy does hurt, PR wise at least. I guess my point is, their secrecy would only help them if the truth is worse than the lie. And they are not dumb people, so they know this.

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                                          harold aptroot wrote:

                                          But that first part..? Ok, but then what is their excuse for evading almost every question about what they're up to? It may all be pointless sh*t, but then why don't they just prove it. That wouldn't actually hurt, would it. And the secrecy does hurt, PR wise at least.

                                          Because no one would believe them, including myself. I don't doubt that at least some of them harbor delusions of grander schemes, but I figure enough of them don't have them, or have conflicting ones that they don't get much of anywhere. Now, if a leader was to pop up I may be concerned, but these aren't the kind of people who follow all to much.

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