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    Christian Graus
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    So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      CaptainSeeSharp
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      The BP oil spill will help Obama with his carbon tax agenda.

      Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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        The BP oil spill will help Obama with his carbon tax agenda.

        Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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        Christian Graus
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        Yes, I fully expected that you'd buy in to this retarded BS. The guy seemed far too together in his personal life ( he had a woman with him for a start ) to BE you, but I felt like I was getting some window in to your world in person.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          Yes, I fully expected that you'd buy in to this retarded BS. The guy seemed far too together in his personal life ( he had a woman with him for a start ) to BE you, but I felt like I was getting some window in to your world in person.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Would a congressman ever grab a kid on the street by the neck because the kid asked him if he liked Obama?

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            Would a congressman ever grab a kid on the street by the neck because the kid asked him if he liked Obama?

            Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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            ragnaroknrol
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            would purple butterflies delight in the loss of the innocence of youth if snails wept salt? My question had about as much to do with his point as yours.

            If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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              So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              wolfbinary
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind.

              This guy's been watching too much Fox News, News Max, etc. I was having my weekly IHOP breakfast with the wife on Saturday a few weeks ago when I saw a guy with a T-Shirt saying "I'll Keep My Guns, Freedom, & Money... You Can Keep The 'Change!' ". I live in a pretty red state.

              That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind.

                This guy's been watching too much Fox News, News Max, etc. I was having my weekly IHOP breakfast with the wife on Saturday a few weeks ago when I saw a guy with a T-Shirt saying "I'll Keep My Guns, Freedom, & Money... You Can Keep The 'Change!' ". I live in a pretty red state.

                That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                Christian Graus
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                I saw that shirt, too !!!! At Rock on the Range in Columbus, maybe THAT was CSS. Although, this dude was out in public.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  I saw that shirt, too !!!! At Rock on the Range in Columbus, maybe THAT was CSS. Although, this dude was out in public.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  wolfbinary
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                  I'm still seeing McCain/Palin 08 stuff too. I think I've seen Obama stuff too, but it's been a really long time if I have. I'd like to see her run again too. The Daily Show episodes from that would be awesome. Not to mention it would make it easier to tell who to vote for. If Ron Paul wins the GOP nominee that would help too. Anytime fascism, socialism, communism, Nazi, etc is invoked its usually a prudent time to double check their supposed facts and your bank account for fraud. I doubt another BP spill of this size again in a month or ever anytime soon with this still going on would change this country to getting off of oil. People don't like change and the American love affair with cars is long and deep. We have gotten too used to living beyond our own resources while polluting someone else's home. Thank you 3rd world countries. People may not like it but legislation and economic suffering(free market), self inflicted or otherwise, are the only ways to force people to change their way of life in a more responsible way. Until that is fixed this latest oil spill won't change a thing. Do you think the nature of humanity needs to change?

                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                    So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Corporal Agarn
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                    With the way politics work I believe the spill will help the right as even if they do nothing they will say it is the fault of big business and our dependents on oil. However, no solution will be available to start not using oil. By the way how much oil was used to fly the President to the gulf coast four times? He can do nothing there that he could do just as well in DC. If the government is serious about ending oil dependence then they should do without. Neither side will do that and the left will say they have no choice as the right cause the problem, where-as they could try to fix the problem instead of fix blame. Also the government will not fix anything. They can throw money at it, but it will be some person in a home lab that comes up with the best idea and we can hope whom ever is in power at the time does not cave in to lobbyist and support the idea.

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                      So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Chris Meech
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it.

                      Conspiracy theorists at it again. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that we don't even know the true extent of environmental damage that has happened and yet to occur. Even more worrisome is the economic fallout because of that damage. It may be the trigger for that second recession many have predicted but has yet to take shape. Hopefully I'm just being to negative in my reasoning. :)

                      Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                        So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Gary Kirkham
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind.

                        No it wasn't...as if you found one person that represents beliefs of the many.

                        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind.

                          No it wasn't...as if you found one person that represents beliefs of the many.

                          Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read

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                          Whether or not you want to believe it, there are a lot of people who do believe that kind of stuff. I meet them everyday.

                          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                            Whether or not you want to believe it, there are a lot of people who do believe that kind of stuff. I meet them everyday.

                            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                            Gary Kirkham
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                            Never said there wasn't people who believed it. What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind.

                              No it wasn't...as if you found one person that represents beliefs of the many.

                              Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read

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                              Christian Graus
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                              To be clear, I meant that I was getting a window into the extreme end of the right wing. That both sides of politics trivialise and simplify the opposition based on such extremes is stupid, and I wasn't doing that at all.

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                                To be clear, I meant that I was getting a window into the extreme end of the right wing. That both sides of politics trivialise and simplify the opposition based on such extremes is stupid, and I wasn't doing that at all.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                Gary Kirkham
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                                Fair enough...

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                That both sides of politics trivialise and simplify the opposition based on such extremes is stupid

                                Yep, I would say that extremists on both ends of the spectrum have the same mind, just a different focus. To me it's better just to label them extremists.

                                Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read

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                                  Never said there wasn't people who believed it. What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.

                                  Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read

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                                  wolfbinary
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                                  Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                  What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.

                                  That's the beauty of belief. You can belief anything you want with some or no facts what so ever. That's called faith. While I haven't met all of them or even most of them, just about every one of them has said things like this to me in one form or another. Usually its pretty predictable that if they think something like Obama is a socialist, than it follows that he wasn't born in the US or something else similar to that. Some people behaved similarly to Bush/Chaney, but the difference I saw was no one was looking for a birth certificate or calling the other side traitors, fascist, or unamerican. When people start throwing around terms like that I stop listening to them because the conversation has turned into a kind of hyperbole throw up that has no purpose, logic or reason in solving any problem or based in any reality I'm a part of.

                                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                    Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                    What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.

                                    That's the beauty of belief. You can belief anything you want with some or no facts what so ever. That's called faith. While I haven't met all of them or even most of them, just about every one of them has said things like this to me in one form or another. Usually its pretty predictable that if they think something like Obama is a socialist, than it follows that he wasn't born in the US or something else similar to that. Some people behaved similarly to Bush/Chaney, but the difference I saw was no one was looking for a birth certificate or calling the other side traitors, fascist, or unamerican. When people start throwing around terms like that I stop listening to them because the conversation has turned into a kind of hyperbole throw up that has no purpose, logic or reason in solving any problem or based in any reality I'm a part of.

                                    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                    Yes, and we're all racist as well. Such a great use of science, your observation. Plenty of stats on that one.

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                                      Yes, and we're all racist as well. Such a great use of science, your observation. Plenty of stats on that one.

                                      Josh Davis
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                                      Not really, there is plenty that implies people have a tendency to prefer their own race, but nothing that says everyone is racist. There's a few scales of difference in certainty and coverage between the two.

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                                        Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                        What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.

                                        That's the beauty of belief. You can belief anything you want with some or no facts what so ever. That's called faith. While I haven't met all of them or even most of them, just about every one of them has said things like this to me in one form or another. Usually its pretty predictable that if they think something like Obama is a socialist, than it follows that he wasn't born in the US or something else similar to that. Some people behaved similarly to Bush/Chaney, but the difference I saw was no one was looking for a birth certificate or calling the other side traitors, fascist, or unamerican. When people start throwing around terms like that I stop listening to them because the conversation has turned into a kind of hyperbole throw up that has no purpose, logic or reason in solving any problem or based in any reality I'm a part of.

                                        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                                        Whew, your head is far up your ass if you believe obama isn't a socialist. You have been drinking too much kool-aid. Grape flavor no doubt.

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                                          Whew, your head is far up your ass if you believe obama isn't a socialist. You have been drinking too much kool-aid. Grape flavor no doubt.

                                          Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                                          Disagreed. I'm with Ron Paul on this, he's a corporatist. Fascist.

                                          Josh Davis
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