Again with BP
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So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
With the way politics work I believe the spill will help the right as even if they do nothing they will say it is the fault of big business and our dependents on oil. However, no solution will be available to start not using oil. By the way how much oil was used to fly the President to the gulf coast four times? He can do nothing there that he could do just as well in DC. If the government is serious about ending oil dependence then they should do without. Neither side will do that and the left will say they have no choice as the right cause the problem, where-as they could try to fix the problem instead of fix blame. Also the government will not fix anything. They can throw money at it, but it will be some person in a home lab that comes up with the best idea and we can hope whom ever is in power at the time does not cave in to lobbyist and support the idea.
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So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it.
Conspiracy theorists at it again. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that we don't even know the true extent of environmental damage that has happened and yet to occur. Even more worrisome is the economic fallout because of that damage. It may be the trigger for that second recession many have predicted but has yet to take shape. Hopefully I'm just being to negative in my reasoning. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
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So, I saw Iron Maiden in Houston. I met a guy who talked to me at length about how awesome Australia is, b/c when the US gets in any sort of fight, we're there ( I hate that about us, not that I think we should never go, but that I think we should think for ourselves and decide when to go ). He went on to tell me that Obama caused the oil spill, and let it happen so that he could get good press from it. It was an interesting conversation. I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind. I considered asking him what he thought of the Fed, but then the show started. I saw a Ron Paul bumper sticker on a car full of rednecks, too.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind.
No it wasn't...as if you found one person that represents beliefs of the many.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
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Christian Graus wrote:
I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind.
No it wasn't...as if you found one person that represents beliefs of the many.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
Whether or not you want to believe it, there are a lot of people who do believe that kind of stuff. I meet them everyday.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Whether or not you want to believe it, there are a lot of people who do believe that kind of stuff. I meet them everyday.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
Never said there wasn't people who believed it. What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
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Christian Graus wrote:
I felt it was a fascinating window in to the right wing mind.
No it wasn't...as if you found one person that represents beliefs of the many.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
To be clear, I meant that I was getting a window into the extreme end of the right wing. That both sides of politics trivialise and simplify the opposition based on such extremes is stupid, and I wasn't doing that at all.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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To be clear, I meant that I was getting a window into the extreme end of the right wing. That both sides of politics trivialise and simplify the opposition based on such extremes is stupid, and I wasn't doing that at all.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Fair enough...
Christian Graus wrote:
That both sides of politics trivialise and simplify the opposition based on such extremes is stupid
Yep, I would say that extremists on both ends of the spectrum have the same mind, just a different focus. To me it's better just to label them extremists.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
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Never said there wasn't people who believed it. What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote:
What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.
That's the beauty of belief. You can belief anything you want with some or no facts what so ever. That's called faith. While I haven't met all of them or even most of them, just about every one of them has said things like this to me in one form or another. Usually its pretty predictable that if they think something like Obama is a socialist, than it follows that he wasn't born in the US or something else similar to that. Some people behaved similarly to Bush/Chaney, but the difference I saw was no one was looking for a birth certificate or calling the other side traitors, fascist, or unamerican. When people start throwing around terms like that I stop listening to them because the conversation has turned into a kind of hyperbole throw up that has no purpose, logic or reason in solving any problem or based in any reality I'm a part of.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.
That's the beauty of belief. You can belief anything you want with some or no facts what so ever. That's called faith. While I haven't met all of them or even most of them, just about every one of them has said things like this to me in one form or another. Usually its pretty predictable that if they think something like Obama is a socialist, than it follows that he wasn't born in the US or something else similar to that. Some people behaved similarly to Bush/Chaney, but the difference I saw was no one was looking for a birth certificate or calling the other side traitors, fascist, or unamerican. When people start throwing around terms like that I stop listening to them because the conversation has turned into a kind of hyperbole throw up that has no purpose, logic or reason in solving any problem or based in any reality I'm a part of.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Yes, and we're all racist as well. Such a great use of science, your observation. Plenty of stats on that one.
Josh Davis
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.
That's the beauty of belief. You can belief anything you want with some or no facts what so ever. That's called faith. While I haven't met all of them or even most of them, just about every one of them has said things like this to me in one form or another. Usually its pretty predictable that if they think something like Obama is a socialist, than it follows that he wasn't born in the US or something else similar to that. Some people behaved similarly to Bush/Chaney, but the difference I saw was no one was looking for a birth certificate or calling the other side traitors, fascist, or unamerican. When people start throwing around terms like that I stop listening to them because the conversation has turned into a kind of hyperbole throw up that has no purpose, logic or reason in solving any problem or based in any reality I'm a part of.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
Whew, your head is far up your ass if you believe obama isn't a socialist. You have been drinking too much kool-aid. Grape flavor no doubt.
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Whew, your head is far up your ass if you believe obama isn't a socialist. You have been drinking too much kool-aid. Grape flavor no doubt.
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Disagreed. I'm with Ron Paul on this, he's a corporatist. Fascist.
Josh Davis
Always looking for blackjack. Or maybe White Frank. One of the two.josda1000 wrote:
Disagreed. I'm with Ron Paul on this, he's a corporatist. Fascist.
Well, the welfare state is socialist, progressive income tax is socialist, public education is socialist, public health is socialist. I prefer to refer to Obama as a socialist, but he could be referred to as a corporatist. Corporatist, socialist, communist, facist, its all tyranny. The most accurate label for Obama would be tyrant.
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josda1000 wrote:
Disagreed. I'm with Ron Paul on this, he's a corporatist. Fascist.
Well, the welfare state is socialist, progressive income tax is socialist, public education is socialist, public health is socialist. I prefer to refer to Obama as a socialist, but he could be referred to as a corporatist. Corporatist, socialist, communist, facist, its all tyranny. The most accurate label for Obama would be tyrant.
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Well, as they said in The Patriot: "Would you tell me please, Mr. Howard, why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can." The Congress is of two houses. One house is of 100 tyrants, the other of 435. Then there's the Chief tyrant, called Mr. President. Still more lie in the SCOTUS. 9 of them.
Josh Davis
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josda1000 wrote:
Disagreed. I'm with Ron Paul on this, he's a corporatist. Fascist.
Well, the welfare state is socialist, progressive income tax is socialist, public education is socialist, public health is socialist. I prefer to refer to Obama as a socialist, but he could be referred to as a corporatist. Corporatist, socialist, communist, facist, its all tyranny. The most accurate label for Obama would be tyrant.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The most accurate label for Obama would be tyrant.
Which is exactly why you have the freedom to say so. Retard.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The most accurate label for Obama would be tyrant.
Which is exactly why you have the freedom to say so. Retard.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Which is exactly why you have the freedom to say so.
So in your little head just because I can say Obama is a tyrant in a backroom message board that means Obama isn't a tyrant?
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
What I don't believe is that you have met a sufficient number of people who believe that way to paint the entire group of millions with that same brush.
That's the beauty of belief. You can belief anything you want with some or no facts what so ever. That's called faith. While I haven't met all of them or even most of them, just about every one of them has said things like this to me in one form or another. Usually its pretty predictable that if they think something like Obama is a socialist, than it follows that he wasn't born in the US or something else similar to that. Some people behaved similarly to Bush/Chaney, but the difference I saw was no one was looking for a birth certificate or calling the other side traitors, fascist, or unamerican. When people start throwing around terms like that I stop listening to them because the conversation has turned into a kind of hyperbole throw up that has no purpose, logic or reason in solving any problem or based in any reality I'm a part of.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
Come back when you have a clue.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
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Christian Graus wrote:
Which is exactly why you have the freedom to say so.
So in your little head just because I can say Obama is a tyrant in a backroom message board that means Obama isn't a tyrant?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So in your little head just because I can say Obama is a tyrant in a backroom message board that means Obama isn't a tyrant?
No, because you can go to the white house and say so in front of his fence says you do. You can go to public gatherings and say so means you are free. You can call him that on the phone or online and not have someone come "re-educate" you.. You can even join a militia full of whack jobs and not worry as long as no one breaks a law.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Which is exactly why you have the freedom to say so.
So in your little head just because I can say Obama is a tyrant in a backroom message board that means Obama isn't a tyrant?
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Despite this being called the backroom, it's still very much a public forum open to whatever spy software "they" feel like using, and you know it. So, given the already established fact that you are a coward, the fact that you feel you can say Obama (dear firefox spell check: No, I don't mean Obadiah) is a tyrant openly is proof enough that you don't "really" believe it.
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Despite this being called the backroom, it's still very much a public forum open to whatever spy software "they" feel like using, and you know it. So, given the already established fact that you are a coward, the fact that you feel you can say Obama (dear firefox spell check: No, I don't mean Obadiah) is a tyrant openly is proof enough that you don't "really" believe it.
James L. Thomson wrote:
given the already established fact that you are a coward, the fact that you feel you can say Obama (dear firefox spell check: No, I don't mean Obadiah) is a tyrant openly is proof enough that you don't "really" believe it.
go post in the lounge so I can give you a 5. :)
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.