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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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    Smithers Jones
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    Crosspost. You posted the same already in the Truthbox.

    "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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    • C CaptainSeeSharp

      http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

      Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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      ragnaroknrol
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      Obama's kill switch the internet will be dead where will I get porn?

      If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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      • S Smithers Jones

        Crosspost. You posted the same already in the Truthbox.

        "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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        ragnaroknrol
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        wait, people read that?

        If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

          Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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          Ian Shlasko
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          Your great conspiracy messiah is spinning the truth yet again.

          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet

          False. The federal government would have the power to order the companies that make up the "critical infrastructure" to implement THEIR OWN emergency measures. The established government office would be able to "assess, evaluate," "encourage the development of, and recommend changes to" "cybersecurity standards and guidelines issued by private sector organizations, recognized international and domestic standards setting organizations, and Federal agencies." [247(b)(1-2)] -- http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.3480:[^] Basically, the companies work together with the new office to develop an action plan (Not a shutdown - More like a high security mode). It basically forces the companies to have a plan in place to guard against a "cyber" attack. All that said, I don't like the way this bill is set up... Sure, they can set whatever regulations they want for government offices and government networks, but I think their power over private sector companies should be limited to advising them on how to implement such a plan, and notifying them of an impending attack ("Now would probably be a good time to implement your plan"). Of course, if the government were to refuse to do contract to a company that wasn't up to their security standards, that's fine too.

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            wait, people read that?

            If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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            Smithers Jones
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            Well, I just had a quick look there ( :-O ) , whether he still posts there, and yes, he does. So: Crosspost.

            "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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            • R ragnaroknrol

              Obama's kill switch the internet will be dead where will I get porn?

              If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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              ragnaroknrol wrote:

              where will I get porn?

              If someone actually killed the Internet, this would be the battle cry of the revolution that cropped up immediately afterward.

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              • S Smithers Jones

                Crosspost. You posted the same already in the Truthbox.

                "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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                Is this the Truthbox[^] of which you speak?

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

                  Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                  Lost User
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                  Thus at his felt approach and secret might, Site after Site goes out, and all is Night. Thy hand, great Barack! lets the curtain fall; And universal Darkness buries all. (Sorry, A.P.)

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    Your great conspiracy messiah is spinning the truth yet again.

                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet

                    False. The federal government would have the power to order the companies that make up the "critical infrastructure" to implement THEIR OWN emergency measures. The established government office would be able to "assess, evaluate," "encourage the development of, and recommend changes to" "cybersecurity standards and guidelines issued by private sector organizations, recognized international and domestic standards setting organizations, and Federal agencies." [247(b)(1-2)] -- http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.3480:[^] Basically, the companies work together with the new office to develop an action plan (Not a shutdown - More like a high security mode). It basically forces the companies to have a plan in place to guard against a "cyber" attack. All that said, I don't like the way this bill is set up... Sure, they can set whatever regulations they want for government offices and government networks, but I think their power over private sector companies should be limited to advising them on how to implement such a plan, and notifying them of an impending attack ("Now would probably be a good time to implement your plan"). Of course, if the government were to refuse to do contract to a company that wasn't up to their security standards, that's fine too.

                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                    josda1000
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                    Good job. He's like, "read the bill". Well, you did. Uber win. It's like a critical hit. (d20s are so awesome.)

                    Josh Davis
                    Always looking for blackjack. Or maybe White Frank. One of the two.

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                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                      http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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                      While I disagree with them, and you, saying it gives the President "absolute power" or whatever, it is a step in the wrong direction. Nowhere in the Constitution is there authority for an FCC, nevermind this kind of "regulation". But Ian is right; while I may be a minarchist, this is not granting absolute power of the internet to the Executive branch. But yes, this is pretty damaging in the end.

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        Your great conspiracy messiah is spinning the truth yet again.

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet

                        False. The federal government would have the power to order the companies that make up the "critical infrastructure" to implement THEIR OWN emergency measures. The established government office would be able to "assess, evaluate," "encourage the development of, and recommend changes to" "cybersecurity standards and guidelines issued by private sector organizations, recognized international and domestic standards setting organizations, and Federal agencies." [247(b)(1-2)] -- http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.3480:[^] Basically, the companies work together with the new office to develop an action plan (Not a shutdown - More like a high security mode). It basically forces the companies to have a plan in place to guard against a "cyber" attack. All that said, I don't like the way this bill is set up... Sure, they can set whatever regulations they want for government offices and government networks, but I think their power over private sector companies should be limited to advising them on how to implement such a plan, and notifying them of an impending attack ("Now would probably be a good time to implement your plan"). Of course, if the government were to refuse to do contract to a company that wasn't up to their security standards, that's fine too.

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                        Gonzoox
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                        Again, CSS proven wrong, when will he learn to do some research before saying anything?? Again CSS infowars is NOT the truth, infowars is NOT a trusted source of information... get your facts straight

                        I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                        • J josda1000

                          Good job. He's like, "read the bill". Well, you did. Uber win. It's like a critical hit. (d20s are so awesome.)

                          Josh Davis
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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          It's an interesting issue, even if Alex Jones completely misinterprets it and tries to make it look like the end of the world. At least, it's better than the usual "You're all fascists/socialists/eugenicists!" or "Look! This guy said something stupid!"

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                          • J josda1000

                            While I disagree with them, and you, saying it gives the President "absolute power" or whatever, it is a step in the wrong direction. Nowhere in the Constitution is there authority for an FCC, nevermind this kind of "regulation". But Ian is right; while I may be a minarchist, this is not granting absolute power of the internet to the Executive branch. But yes, this is pretty damaging in the end.

                            Josh Davis
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                            Ian Shlasko
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                            josda1000 wrote:

                            Nowhere in the Constitution is there authority for an FCC, nevermind this kind of "regulation".

                            I.8: Congress shall have power ... To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; They also give national security justifications for its creation, but I think this one is more appropriate. Of course, while I agree with the need to have an organization that regulates spectrum usage (Otherwise it'd all be a mess of interference), I've always disagreed with their ability to censor broadcasts. That never should have existed.

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                              Is this the Truthbox[^] of which you speak?

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                              Smithers Jones
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                              At a first glance I'd have said so, but then I saw the headline of this website. Below there's written in small letters: "Phoenix Area..." Can't be his Truthbox then, since CaptainWeeParts lives in Columbus, Ohio, as far as I know.

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                              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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                                You are stupid. Obama can shut down the whole internet ? OR do you just not realise that Obama has no power over the rest of the world ? Or even what the 'rest of the world' is ?

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                                  josda1000 wrote:

                                  Nowhere in the Constitution is there authority for an FCC, nevermind this kind of "regulation".

                                  I.8: Congress shall have power ... To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; They also give national security justifications for its creation, but I think this one is more appropriate. Of course, while I agree with the need to have an organization that regulates spectrum usage (Otherwise it'd all be a mess of interference), I've always disagreed with their ability to censor broadcasts. That never should have existed.

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                                  josda1000
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                                  I think that's what I'm more about, I'm sorry. Yes, they can regulate commerce, but I think I mean to the extent that you are talking about. Because they are inhibiting free speech. Sorry. I really have to explain better sometimes.

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                                  • J josda1000

                                    I think that's what I'm more about, I'm sorry. Yes, they can regulate commerce, but I think I mean to the extent that you are talking about. Because they are inhibiting free speech. Sorry. I really have to explain better sometimes.

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                                    Free speech has to have limits. I'm not saying I agree with where they are (although I can't think of any example I disagree with too strongly), but it's still true, there have to be limits, it's not some great mantra that must always be obeyed.

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                                      While I disagree with them, and you, saying it gives the President "absolute power" or whatever, it is a step in the wrong direction. Nowhere in the Constitution is there authority for an FCC, nevermind this kind of "regulation". But Ian is right; while I may be a minarchist, this is not granting absolute power of the internet to the Executive branch. But yes, this is pretty damaging in the end.

                                      Josh Davis
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                                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                                      It will give him power to command ISPs to shutdown service, or to block certain website deemed "dangerous".

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                                        Free speech has to have limits. I'm not saying I agree with where they are (although I can't think of any example I disagree with too strongly), but it's still true, there have to be limits, it's not some great mantra that must always be obeyed.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Then, really, I can't call you a liberal. I'd call you authoritarian. Look, the freedom of speech is precisely the one thing that made this country great. That, and as presented to me before, representation. So really, if you draw the line somewhere, then that line will continually be moved. In the end it comes down to the fact that either you're free, or you're not. Either you have the right to speak, or you don't. Your choice.

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                                          It will give him power to command ISPs to shutdown service, or to block certain website deemed "dangerous".

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                                          josda1000
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                                          Right. For probably a limited amount of time, they would, to certain ISPs. But not the whole damned thing. I mean I know what you're saying, but the way it was spun is completely uncalled for. What I'm concerned about is the constant banning of certain channels on youtube... that's the start of it. And then this bill. So yes I'm in your court, but it's still incorrect. And yes, it will inhibit freedom. As usual. The purpose of the federal government was to protect liberty, not destroy it. And that's what we see. Correct?

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