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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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      http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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      Chris Meech
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      If that means, that will stop you from posting here, then I say that's a good thing. :) OTOH, anyone who thinks that a kill-switch can or does exist for the Internet, doesn't understand how it works in the first place. So, uhm good luck with that. :cool:

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        http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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        Smithers Jones
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        Yada yada yada. As long as this kill switch seizes control of all your possibilities to access the internet, I fully agree with whatever they plan to do. The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down your mouth.

        "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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          If that means, that will stop you from posting here, then I say that's a good thing. :) OTOH, anyone who thinks that a kill-switch can or does exist for the Internet, doesn't understand how it works in the first place. So, uhm good luck with that. :cool:

          Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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          Chris Meech wrote:

          OTOH, anyone who thinks that a kill-switch can or does exist for the Internet, doesn't understnad how it works in the first place. So, uhm good luck with that

          Read the bill. The law states that IPS must comply with federal demands to shutdown service, and ISPs will be compensated for down time.

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            If that means, that will stop you from posting here, then I say that's a good thing. :) OTOH, anyone who thinks that a kill-switch can or does exist for the Internet, doesn't understand how it works in the first place. So, uhm good luck with that. :cool:

            Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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            Smithers Jones
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            Chris Meech wrote:

            anyone who thinks that a kill-switch can or does exist for the Internet, doesn't understand how it works in the first place

            Ooh, that's not true. I once switched of the internet accidentally by tripping over its power cord. :)

            "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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              http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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              Lost User
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              Well what the heck.. at best it would isolate the US from the rest of the internet. That article also uses 'world wide web' and 'internet' as if they are freely interchangeable.

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                http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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                Smithers Jones
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                Crosspost. You posted the same already in the Truthbox.

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                  http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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                  Obama's kill switch the internet will be dead where will I get porn?

                  If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                    Crosspost. You posted the same already in the Truthbox.

                    "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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                    wait, people read that?

                    If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                      http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      Your great conspiracy messiah is spinning the truth yet again.

                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet

                      False. The federal government would have the power to order the companies that make up the "critical infrastructure" to implement THEIR OWN emergency measures. The established government office would be able to "assess, evaluate," "encourage the development of, and recommend changes to" "cybersecurity standards and guidelines issued by private sector organizations, recognized international and domestic standards setting organizations, and Federal agencies." [247(b)(1-2)] -- http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.3480:[^] Basically, the companies work together with the new office to develop an action plan (Not a shutdown - More like a high security mode). It basically forces the companies to have a plan in place to guard against a "cyber" attack. All that said, I don't like the way this bill is set up... Sure, they can set whatever regulations they want for government offices and government networks, but I think their power over private sector companies should be limited to advising them on how to implement such a plan, and notifying them of an impending attack ("Now would probably be a good time to implement your plan"). Of course, if the government were to refuse to do contract to a company that wasn't up to their security standards, that's fine too.

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                        wait, people read that?

                        If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                        Smithers Jones
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                        Well, I just had a quick look there ( :-O ) , whether he still posts there, and yes, he does. So: Crosspost.

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                          Obama's kill switch the internet will be dead where will I get porn?

                          If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                          ragnaroknrol wrote:

                          where will I get porn?

                          If someone actually killed the Internet, this would be the battle cry of the revolution that cropped up immediately afterward.

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                            Crosspost. You posted the same already in the Truthbox.

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                            Is this the Truthbox[^] of which you speak?

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                              http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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                              Thus at his felt approach and secret might, Site after Site goes out, and all is Night. Thy hand, great Barack! lets the curtain fall; And universal Darkness buries all. (Sorry, A.P.)

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                                Your great conspiracy messiah is spinning the truth yet again.

                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet

                                False. The federal government would have the power to order the companies that make up the "critical infrastructure" to implement THEIR OWN emergency measures. The established government office would be able to "assess, evaluate," "encourage the development of, and recommend changes to" "cybersecurity standards and guidelines issued by private sector organizations, recognized international and domestic standards setting organizations, and Federal agencies." [247(b)(1-2)] -- http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.3480:[^] Basically, the companies work together with the new office to develop an action plan (Not a shutdown - More like a high security mode). It basically forces the companies to have a plan in place to guard against a "cyber" attack. All that said, I don't like the way this bill is set up... Sure, they can set whatever regulations they want for government offices and government networks, but I think their power over private sector companies should be limited to advising them on how to implement such a plan, and notifying them of an impending attack ("Now would probably be a good time to implement your plan"). Of course, if the government were to refuse to do contract to a company that wasn't up to their security standards, that's fine too.

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                                Good job. He's like, "read the bill". Well, you did. Uber win. It's like a critical hit. (d20s are so awesome.)

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                                  http://www.infowars.com/new-bill-gives-obama-kill-switch-to-shut-down-the-internet/[^] The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet under the terms of a new US Senate bill being pushed by Joe Lieberman, legislation which would hand President Obama a figurative “kill switch” to seize control of the world wide web in response to a Homeland Security directive. Lieberman has been pushing for government regulation of the Internet for years under the guise of cybersecurity, but this new bill goes even further in handing emergency powers over to the feds which could be used to silence free speech under the pretext of a national emergency. “The legislation says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines or software firms that the US Government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined,” reports ZDNet’s Declan McCullagh. The 197-page bill (PDF[^]) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

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                                  While I disagree with them, and you, saying it gives the President "absolute power" or whatever, it is a step in the wrong direction. Nowhere in the Constitution is there authority for an FCC, nevermind this kind of "regulation". But Ian is right; while I may be a minarchist, this is not granting absolute power of the internet to the Executive branch. But yes, this is pretty damaging in the end.

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                                    Your great conspiracy messiah is spinning the truth yet again.

                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    The federal government would have “absolute power” to shut down the Internet

                                    False. The federal government would have the power to order the companies that make up the "critical infrastructure" to implement THEIR OWN emergency measures. The established government office would be able to "assess, evaluate," "encourage the development of, and recommend changes to" "cybersecurity standards and guidelines issued by private sector organizations, recognized international and domestic standards setting organizations, and Federal agencies." [247(b)(1-2)] -- http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.3480:[^] Basically, the companies work together with the new office to develop an action plan (Not a shutdown - More like a high security mode). It basically forces the companies to have a plan in place to guard against a "cyber" attack. All that said, I don't like the way this bill is set up... Sure, they can set whatever regulations they want for government offices and government networks, but I think their power over private sector companies should be limited to advising them on how to implement such a plan, and notifying them of an impending attack ("Now would probably be a good time to implement your plan"). Of course, if the government were to refuse to do contract to a company that wasn't up to their security standards, that's fine too.

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                                    Again, CSS proven wrong, when will he learn to do some research before saying anything?? Again CSS infowars is NOT the truth, infowars is NOT a trusted source of information... get your facts straight

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                                      Good job. He's like, "read the bill". Well, you did. Uber win. It's like a critical hit. (d20s are so awesome.)

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                                      Ian Shlasko
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                                      It's an interesting issue, even if Alex Jones completely misinterprets it and tries to make it look like the end of the world. At least, it's better than the usual "You're all fascists/socialists/eugenicists!" or "Look! This guy said something stupid!"

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                                        While I disagree with them, and you, saying it gives the President "absolute power" or whatever, it is a step in the wrong direction. Nowhere in the Constitution is there authority for an FCC, nevermind this kind of "regulation". But Ian is right; while I may be a minarchist, this is not granting absolute power of the internet to the Executive branch. But yes, this is pretty damaging in the end.

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                                        Ian Shlasko
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                                        josda1000 wrote:

                                        Nowhere in the Constitution is there authority for an FCC, nevermind this kind of "regulation".

                                        I.8: Congress shall have power ... To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; They also give national security justifications for its creation, but I think this one is more appropriate. Of course, while I agree with the need to have an organization that regulates spectrum usage (Otherwise it'd all be a mess of interference), I've always disagreed with their ability to censor broadcasts. That never should have existed.

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                                          Is this the Truthbox[^] of which you speak?

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                                          At a first glance I'd have said so, but then I saw the headline of this website. Below there's written in small letters: "Phoenix Area..." Can't be his Truthbox then, since CaptainWeeParts lives in Columbus, Ohio, as far as I know.

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