Life is a game
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Harold says that believing in an afterlife does not make it true. He's right. Not believing in one does not stop it from existing, if it does, however.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Harold says that believing in an afterlife does not make it true.
If he believed in an afterlife, it would be exist - for him. The actuality of that afterlife would be irrelevant. How one arrives at said belief is beyond me, which is why I suggested you. :)
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Harold says that believing in an afterlife does not make it true.
If he believed in an afterlife, it would be exist - for him. The actuality of that afterlife would be irrelevant. How one arrives at said belief is beyond me, which is why I suggested you. :)
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
Bob Emmett wrote:
If he believed in an afterlife, it would be exist - for him. The actuality of that afterlife would be irrelevant.
Well, I'd agree that he'd never find out he was wrong. My point is that the statement 'believing in an afterlife does not make it true' is both true, and pointless. Either there is one, or there is not. If there isn't one, then I guess people would still take comfort in their belief, and never notice that it did not pan out, but it would still not be true. The statement he made is irrelevant, it doesn't change if there is one or not.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Well, that's really the answer to your whole argument. Ignoring my personal beliefs ( because you know what they are ), and assuming that we just live and die, then the reason to bother is that so long as we're alive, we experience the reality we create for ourselves, and can enjoy it. If we're lucky, once we're gone, the way we chose to spend our time here will continue to impact on the lives of others. So long as being alive is more fun than not existing at all, that's reason enough to do it, and enjoy it while we can. That's plainly not my philosophy in life, but I still think it's workable for those with no hope beyond this life.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
The whole purpose of life is to continue. A simple bacterium will replicate, because that is what it does. All evolutionary adaptations are there to aid in the replication of the individual. So over time, adding an eye here or a tail there is simply increases the best adaptive fit in order to survive long enough to breed. Human intelligence is simply part of that evolutionary process. Dogs and Cats and Kangeroos all breed because their DNA has forced them, because that is what DNA does, it replicates. But these animals do not worry about why they are here or wonder about futility, they just breed. Humans are the same, we breed because we have evolved to breed because DNA needs to replicate. That is the purpose of life. We do not do this because of a master plan, and once one realises this, life becomes clear, open and explicable, there are no unknowns, there is nothing to plan for, simply live breed and oblivion.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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The whole purpose of life is to continue. A simple bacterium will replicate, because that is what it does. All evolutionary adaptations are there to aid in the replication of the individual. So over time, adding an eye here or a tail there is simply increases the best adaptive fit in order to survive long enough to breed. Human intelligence is simply part of that evolutionary process. Dogs and Cats and Kangeroos all breed because their DNA has forced them, because that is what DNA does, it replicates. But these animals do not worry about why they are here or wonder about futility, they just breed. Humans are the same, we breed because we have evolved to breed because DNA needs to replicate. That is the purpose of life. We do not do this because of a master plan, and once one realises this, life becomes clear, open and explicable, there are no unknowns, there is nothing to plan for, simply live breed and oblivion.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
You mean every Friday evening is random? You don't have a Master Plan going into the week? You have no idea you are going to do another "So Long Suckers!" post until it has slipped past your fingers? You think there are no unknowns, but you have no Master Plan? 99% of everything is an unknown! You not knowing that you have a purpose doesn't mean you don't. You came up from a sperm so God could let me know it was about noon on Friday. Happy find your purpose day.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
If he believed in an afterlife, it would be exist - for him. The actuality of that afterlife would be irrelevant.
Well, I'd agree that he'd never find out he was wrong. My point is that the statement 'believing in an afterlife does not make it true' is both true, and pointless. Either there is one, or there is not. If there isn't one, then I guess people would still take comfort in their belief, and never notice that it did not pan out, but it would still not be true. The statement he made is irrelevant, it doesn't change if there is one or not.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
My point is that the statement 'believing in an afterlife does not make it true' is both true, and pointless.
And my point is that belief makes it true for the believer, otherwise it is not belief, merely hope.
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
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Good. But before you finalize anything, let me know who I need to send flowers to. And remember, You Lost First.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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Christian Graus wrote:
My point is that the statement 'believing in an afterlife does not make it true' is both true, and pointless.
And my point is that belief makes it true for the believer, otherwise it is not belief, merely hope.
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
Well, that's kind of semantic, but, sure, you can have that one :-)
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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yes the outcome is death, that is inevtiable (spelt wrong I feel!) BUT heck im going to have fun in many different ways while I get to my end game!
As barmey as a sack of badgers