Parents who smoke in the presence of their kids are idiots.
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We moved from Australia to Holland this year with our two year old. In Oz it's illegal to smoke in a car with a child, within X meters of a park or playground and you would almost never see someone smoking while pushing a pram. In Holland they smoke everywhere, at the playground with their kids, at the dinner table and its not always tobacco. I pick the butts out of the local sandpit while he plays.
Which town are you in? I like Holland, and the Dutch, they are good fun. They like to drink, and are very direct, which I find refreshing. They are very sociable, and helpfull people. And hows the Dutch going? Are you trying to learn it! Your child might well if they are young enough and go to school there. (I have some English friends who loved to Maastricht some years ago, both their girls now speak Dutch fluently).
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Which town are you in? I like Holland, and the Dutch, they are good fun. They like to drink, and are very direct, which I find refreshing. They are very sociable, and helpfull people. And hows the Dutch going? Are you trying to learn it! Your child might well if they are young enough and go to school there. (I have some English friends who loved to Maastricht some years ago, both their girls now speak Dutch fluently).
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Which town are you in?
Middle of Amsterdam - The Jordaan
fat_boy wrote:
I like Holland, and the Dutch, they are good fun. They like to drink, and are very direct, which I find refreshing. They are very sociable, and helpfull people.
It's my second time living here and it's fun. The Dutch are OK, sometimes you want to punch them but most of the time they are easy to get along with.
fat_boy wrote:
And hows the Dutch going? Are you trying to learn it!
Language is not my thing. I know enough to conduct very basic conversations, buy beers, deal with the checkout chick at the supermarket but I'll never get very far. My partner has an ear for languages, speaks several fluently and she is doing really well. Our son says goodbuy in Dutch, very cute.
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fat_boy wrote:
Which town are you in?
Middle of Amsterdam - The Jordaan
fat_boy wrote:
I like Holland, and the Dutch, they are good fun. They like to drink, and are very direct, which I find refreshing. They are very sociable, and helpfull people.
It's my second time living here and it's fun. The Dutch are OK, sometimes you want to punch them but most of the time they are easy to get along with.
fat_boy wrote:
And hows the Dutch going? Are you trying to learn it!
Language is not my thing. I know enough to conduct very basic conversations, buy beers, deal with the checkout chick at the supermarket but I'll never get very far. My partner has an ear for languages, speaks several fluently and she is doing really well. Our son says goodbuy in Dutch, very cute.
Josh Gray wrote:
Middle of Amsterdam - The Jordaan
Pretty lively then!
Josh Gray wrote:
sometimes you want to punch them
Know what you mean. The thing is they dont mean any offense, they are just so direct. A bit like northerners in the UK.
Josh Gray wrote:
Language is not my thing.
I dabbled in Dutch, but since almost everyone speaks English to you its impossible to practise it, but I made some headway and can almost read it (at least with a good disctionary for the big words).
Josh Gray wrote:
Our son says goodbuy in Dutch, very cute.
It is funny when they start using a foreign language. We were in Belgium, Flemish psrt, our daughter got to the stage where she was paying with the neighbours kids (2 to 3 years old) and starting to pick up some dutch (its very close to english of course at that level), things like dag, slaap lecker. We took her to a french speaking school, walloon part, because french is more usefull, and cos we wanted to move back to france. When she really started to speak French, she started making the sounds in a 'pretend speaking' way. It was funny. You might find your son starting to make throat clearing noises. It might be he isnt flemming up, but is practising Dutch sounds! :)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Josh Gray wrote:
Middle of Amsterdam - The Jordaan
Pretty lively then!
Josh Gray wrote:
sometimes you want to punch them
Know what you mean. The thing is they dont mean any offense, they are just so direct. A bit like northerners in the UK.
Josh Gray wrote:
Language is not my thing.
I dabbled in Dutch, but since almost everyone speaks English to you its impossible to practise it, but I made some headway and can almost read it (at least with a good disctionary for the big words).
Josh Gray wrote:
Our son says goodbuy in Dutch, very cute.
It is funny when they start using a foreign language. We were in Belgium, Flemish psrt, our daughter got to the stage where she was paying with the neighbours kids (2 to 3 years old) and starting to pick up some dutch (its very close to english of course at that level), things like dag, slaap lecker. We took her to a french speaking school, walloon part, because french is more usefull, and cos we wanted to move back to france. When she really started to speak French, she started making the sounds in a 'pretend speaking' way. It was funny. You might find your son starting to make throat clearing noises. It might be he isnt flemming up, but is practising Dutch sounds! :)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Pretty lively then!
Yep, nice and central. Our accommodation is provided, if we stay we'll move out of the centre where there's a bit more space and other kids.
fat_boy wrote:
Know what you mean. The thing is they dont mean any offense, they are just so direct. A bit like northerners in the UK.
The first time I came here I'd not really spent much time outside Australia and it was hard. They're a weird bunch but many do actually have a sense of humor under all the Dutchness. One thing I find hard is what I call 'Dutch answers'. You ask a question and you get an answer that while perfectly correct is completely fucking useless so you have to ask again and you cant tell if they're being a prick on purpose. There is a lot more open racism here than I've ever seen before.
fat_boy wrote:
I dabbled in Dutch, but since almost everyone speaks English to you its impossible to practise it
Yep, seems to be a common issue with the ex-pats here. You ask in Dutch, they reply in English
fat_boy wrote:
You might find your son starting to make throat clearing noises. It might be he isnt flemming up, but is practising Dutch sounds! Smile
I'll never master the 'g' sound
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It's not that I care these kids (who have a high chance of having bad genes, seeing as at least one of the parents has the stupid-gene), but lack of rationality disturbs me. What do they hope to gain from this? Medical bills? That could work. Smoking in the presence of your children is child abuse. Discuss. btw, IMHO Ray Cassick won the previous thread, congratulations. Epic counter-troll.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Take a puff every hour or two and you will have a substantial increase in mental capacity.
ROTFL !!!!
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is better than coffee
Given that coffee does not increase mental capacity, that's a bit like saying that having one arm is better than having none, if you want to play the guitar.
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and that's why in his fantasy world, he's a programmer and a chef... wahahahahaha, one more failure to his life, how does he feel about it?, at least he has to have one of those moments where he sits in a corner of his basement asking himself about his life... please tell me he does.
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
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Something like 25% of cancers are caused by bad diet, another 25% by type 2 diabetes, and about 30% by chemicals, such as those in cigarete smoke. So why not also state that eating crap food in front of your kids is equally bad. And feeding them it is even worse. In fact why arent crap foods illlegal, and especially sugar, the cause of type 2 diabetes. Oh, and as for real fires, no doubt the smoke they produce also causes cancer, so ban those, especially in houses with kids. Next dust particles. Living near a quarry or working with wood can cause sillicosis, lets ban that too eh? Come on, get a grip.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Something like 25% of cancers are caused by bad diet, another 25% by type 2 diabetes
That's utter nonsense.
fat_boy wrote:
sugar, the cause of type 2 diabetes.
Also nonsense. T2DM is linked to being fat; it doesn't really matter how they got those calories.
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fat_boy wrote:
Something like 25% of cancers are caused by bad diet, another 25% by type 2 diabetes
That's utter nonsense.
fat_boy wrote:
sugar, the cause of type 2 diabetes.
Also nonsense. T2DM is linked to being fat; it doesn't really matter how they got those calories.
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Also nonsense. T2DM is linked to being fat; it doesn't really matter how they got those calories.
Aroung 90-92kg and 188cm tall, not fat and I got Type II Diabetes about 11 years ago when I was 29-30. I think there's a bit of hereditry in the mix also.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Also nonsense. T2DM is linked to being fat; it doesn't really matter how they got those calories.
Aroung 90-92kg and 188cm tall, not fat and I got Type II Diabetes about 11 years ago when I was 29-30. I think there's a bit of hereditry in the mix also.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
Aroung 90-92kg and 188cm tall, not fat and I got Type II Diabetes about 11 years ago when I was 29-30. I think there's a bit of hereditry in the mix also.
My intent wasn't to lecture on the multitude of risk factors and etiologies for a quite complex disease, but rather to address the popular misconception that too much sugar causes it.
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Michael Martin wrote:
Aroung 90-92kg and 188cm tall, not fat and I got Type II Diabetes about 11 years ago when I was 29-30. I think there's a bit of hereditry in the mix also.
My intent wasn't to lecture on the multitude of risk factors and etiologies for a quite complex disease, but rather to address the popular misconception that too much sugar causes it.
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Fisticuffs wrote:
My intent wasn't to lecture on the multitude of risk factors and etiologies for a quite complex disease, but rather to address the popular misconception that too much sugar causes it.
I know you weren't, I'm just still pissed all these years later to have it. I know a bucketload of people with far greater weights and body fat percentages than mine and not a hint of the fucking thing.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004