For fucks sake...
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Schools told 'no swimming in Ramadan' for Muslim pupils[^]. How about they either don't participate in the lessons or take the risk? More unwanted meddling by do-gooding liberal arseholes who'll give the country away to every lunatic before they'd ever consider the people that were already here. Wankers spending taxes on such nonsense. And yes, I'm fucking furious at this brainless council.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Schools told 'no swimming in Ramadan' for Muslim pupils[^]. How about they either don't participate in the lessons or take the risk? More unwanted meddling by do-gooding liberal arseholes who'll give the country away to every lunatic before they'd ever consider the people that were already here. Wankers spending taxes on such nonsense. And yes, I'm fucking furious at this brainless council.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Yep, at least in good old 'socialist europe' as it is often perceived, the Burkah has been banned in Belgium, is on its way to a ban in France and I believe Holland too. I liked this phrase: "It also suggests re-scheduling sex education classes during the holy lunar month, as Muslim followers who have reached puberty are required to avoid sexual thoughts during this period." Yeah, sure. You gonna stop a pubescent lad thinking about sex? No fucking way! Of course this is utterly stupid. Studying sex as a subject is NOT 'sexual thought', its biological thought. But this shows how utterly stupid our leaders are and how they lack the ability to aply the simplest logic to a situation. --edit-- Looks like the french are further ahead: Burkinis banned in france[^]
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Schools told 'no swimming in Ramadan' for Muslim pupils[^]. How about they either don't participate in the lessons or take the risk? More unwanted meddling by do-gooding liberal arseholes who'll give the country away to every lunatic before they'd ever consider the people that were already here. Wankers spending taxes on such nonsense. And yes, I'm fucking furious at this brainless council.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Don't schools close down for long periods of time over there for the christmas holidays?
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Don't schools close down for long periods of time over there for the christmas holidays?
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
Not sure how it is in the UK, but the schools here generally shut down for about a week around Xmas and New Years... Kind of a combination of holidays (Several religions have holidays around that time) and a mid-semester break. It's short(ish), predictable, and at a convenient time... Ramadan is a month long, and it shifts every year (Based on a different calendar).
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Schools told 'no swimming in Ramadan' for Muslim pupils[^]. How about they either don't participate in the lessons or take the risk? More unwanted meddling by do-gooding liberal arseholes who'll give the country away to every lunatic before they'd ever consider the people that were already here. Wankers spending taxes on such nonsense. And yes, I'm fucking furious at this brainless council.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Yeah, you can imagine a Muslim standing at the gates of Jannah with an angel saying, "Look, I'm sorry, you were righteous and faithful and all that for your whole life, but when you were thirteen you accidentally swallowed a small amount of swimming pool water - you obviously cannot enter." It just makes sense.
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Schools told 'no swimming in Ramadan' for Muslim pupils[^]. How about they either don't participate in the lessons or take the risk? More unwanted meddling by do-gooding liberal arseholes who'll give the country away to every lunatic before they'd ever consider the people that were already here. Wankers spending taxes on such nonsense. And yes, I'm fucking furious at this brainless council.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
digital man wrote:
I'm f***ing furious at this brainless council.
Why? When I was at school, 50 years ago, exceptions and exemptions were made for Roman Catholics and Jews (neither as secular as they are now) - what's the difference? Lighten up, you're too young to be Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells.
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
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digital man wrote:
I'm f***ing furious at this brainless council.
Why? When I was at school, 50 years ago, exceptions and exemptions were made for Roman Catholics and Jews (neither as secular as they are now) - what's the difference? Lighten up, you're too young to be Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells.
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
I can understand his frustration, as the UK is PC gone mad at the moment trying not to upset the minority religions
As barmey as a sack of badgers
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digital man wrote:
I'm f***ing furious at this brainless council.
Why? When I was at school, 50 years ago, exceptions and exemptions were made for Roman Catholics and Jews (neither as secular as they are now) - what's the difference? Lighten up, you're too young to be Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells.
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
Exemptions are fine... Sure, if the kids have religious excuses for not participating, it's their loss... But this is going a step further. They're asking the schools not to schedule those classes AT ALL. For ANYONE. As in, no swimming classes or sex ed this month for any of the students, just to make sure they aren't encouraging some muslim student to break his own rules. So I'm right with digital on this... Bad form.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Yep, at least in good old 'socialist europe' as it is often perceived, the Burkah has been banned in Belgium, is on its way to a ban in France and I believe Holland too. I liked this phrase: "It also suggests re-scheduling sex education classes during the holy lunar month, as Muslim followers who have reached puberty are required to avoid sexual thoughts during this period." Yeah, sure. You gonna stop a pubescent lad thinking about sex? No fucking way! Of course this is utterly stupid. Studying sex as a subject is NOT 'sexual thought', its biological thought. But this shows how utterly stupid our leaders are and how they lack the ability to aply the simplest logic to a situation. --edit-- Looks like the french are further ahead: Burkinis banned in france[^]
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Very well done: don't watch South Park but that was good.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Exemptions are fine... Sure, if the kids have religious excuses for not participating, it's their loss... But this is going a step further. They're asking the schools not to schedule those classes AT ALL. For ANYONE. As in, no swimming classes or sex ed this month for any of the students, just to make sure they aren't encouraging some muslim student to break his own rules. So I'm right with digital on this... Bad form.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Can we ban all religion, because I am an atheist and I don't want to be upset. (I am not using a joke Icon on this!)
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Don't schools close down for long periods of time over there for the christmas holidays?
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
Not really - couple of weeks winter break but that's it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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I can understand his frustration, as the UK is PC gone mad at the moment trying not to upset the minority religions
As barmey as a sack of badgers
They could make it fair and NOT try to "not upset" any religion. - No Easter break, or any other religious breaks. - No churches, mosques, or whatever the other religions call their "house of god". Especially not if they make annoying sounds. Only keep the really old ones to preserve history (so that future generations do not repeat our mistakes) but DOWN with the rest. - No opting out of science for any reason. Evolution for everyone. Sex-ed for every one as well, where do you think all these teen pregnancies come from? Geologic history of the earth for everyone. - No public display of religion. - Richard Dawkins' books on the reading list. And I'm in a particularly evil mood today so: - Real secularism (no bloody religiously tainted members of parliament - GTFO) - No private display of religion. Unenforceable, but you can use it to add an extra offense to religious wrongdoers. - Tax benefits for people who convert to atheism. Any suggestions? (DD?)
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Can we ban all religion, because I am an atheist and I don't want to be upset. (I am not using a joke Icon on this!)
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
Can we ban all religion, because I am an atheist and I don't want to be upset.
I'll sign up to that: religion is nothing but trouble: no good ever came from it.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Very well done: don't watch South Park but that was good.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
"It's Friday night, you can't have sex, you can't jack off and you have sand in your ass"
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Can we ban all religion, because I am an atheist and I don't want to be upset. (I am not using a joke Icon on this!)
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Eh, I'm an atheist, too, but I actually envy the religious folks... Reality is depressing... Having something to look forward to at the end, would probably make it a little more tolerable. "Where is Polonious?" "At dinner. Not where he eats, but where he is eaten. A certain convocation of politic worms are at him e'en now."
Versus... "In heaven. Send one of your messengers forthwith. If he finds him not there, you may seek him out in the other place yourself."
(Both quotes from Hamlet, but all from memory, so I probably messed them up)Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Eh, I'm an atheist, too, but I actually envy the religious folks... Reality is depressing... Having something to look forward to at the end, would probably make it a little more tolerable. "Where is Polonious?" "At dinner. Not where he eats, but where he is eaten. A certain convocation of politic worms are at him e'en now."
Versus... "In heaven. Send one of your messengers forthwith. If he finds him not there, you may seek him out in the other place yourself."
(Both quotes from Hamlet, but all from memory, so I probably messed them up)Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Religion promises everything and delivers nothing; it is a means by which the ignorant masses can be easily controlled. Someone once told me that the reason something bad happened was gods will. I told him to fuck off and never darken my door again. Ignorant twat. Him, not me. Hey, it's my post!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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They could make it fair and NOT try to "not upset" any religion. - No Easter break, or any other religious breaks. - No churches, mosques, or whatever the other religions call their "house of god". Especially not if they make annoying sounds. Only keep the really old ones to preserve history (so that future generations do not repeat our mistakes) but DOWN with the rest. - No opting out of science for any reason. Evolution for everyone. Sex-ed for every one as well, where do you think all these teen pregnancies come from? Geologic history of the earth for everyone. - No public display of religion. - Richard Dawkins' books on the reading list. And I'm in a particularly evil mood today so: - Real secularism (no bloody religiously tainted members of parliament - GTFO) - No private display of religion. Unenforceable, but you can use it to add an extra offense to religious wrongdoers. - Tax benefits for people who convert to atheism. Any suggestions? (DD?)
Make denigration of religion compulsory. Point and laugh at Vicars, Priests, Imams, Rabbis, and anyone else who lives their lives by what some bronze age peasants wrote in a book thousands of years ago. Suggest that those who wish to live by their religions do so in the country where that religion started. (OK we would have to put up with pagans, but a lot of naked women dancing round a bonfire does not bother me too much). But the rest of them can fuck off back into the deserts of the middle east. Teach science and maths to a higher level and with more importance, and make it illegal to pass any law that is based upon religious observance. Get rid of all non-secular holidays. You can keep the Chrismas and New Year holiday dates, but call them the Solstice Break, Easter becomes the Equinox Break etc
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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They could make it fair and NOT try to "not upset" any religion. - No Easter break, or any other religious breaks. - No churches, mosques, or whatever the other religions call their "house of god". Especially not if they make annoying sounds. Only keep the really old ones to preserve history (so that future generations do not repeat our mistakes) but DOWN with the rest. - No opting out of science for any reason. Evolution for everyone. Sex-ed for every one as well, where do you think all these teen pregnancies come from? Geologic history of the earth for everyone. - No public display of religion. - Richard Dawkins' books on the reading list. And I'm in a particularly evil mood today so: - Real secularism (no bloody religiously tainted members of parliament - GTFO) - No private display of religion. Unenforceable, but you can use it to add an extra offense to religious wrongdoers. - Tax benefits for people who convert to atheism. Any suggestions? (DD?)
I remember being at school in Londonderry in the 80's my parents took me out of Religous education as it wasn't something that they thought was fair to me blah blah but the school said hey nop problem.. he can do other work while they have RE. my point to that article Harold is why should one person be disadvantaged because of someone else's religon?
As barmey as a sack of badgers
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Religion promises everything and delivers nothing; it is a means by which the ignorant masses can be easily controlled. Someone once told me that the reason something bad happened was gods will. I told him to fuck off and never darken my door again. Ignorant twat. Him, not me. Hey, it's my post!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
digital man wrote:
Religion promises everything and delivers nothing; it is a means by which the ignorant masses can be easily controlled.
Yeah, but if you can ignore all forms of logic and common sense, and actually BELIEVE the story, well, that'd probably be a lot more pleasant. You know what they say... Ignorance is bliss.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)