For fucks sake...
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Can we ban all religion, because I am an atheist and I don't want to be upset. (I am not using a joke Icon on this!)
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Can we ban all religion, because I am an atheist and I don't want to be upset.
I'll sign up to that: religion is nothing but trouble: no good ever came from it.
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Very well done: don't watch South Park but that was good.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
"It's Friday night, you can't have sex, you can't jack off and you have sand in your ass"
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Can we ban all religion, because I am an atheist and I don't want to be upset. (I am not using a joke Icon on this!)
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Eh, I'm an atheist, too, but I actually envy the religious folks... Reality is depressing... Having something to look forward to at the end, would probably make it a little more tolerable. "Where is Polonious?" "At dinner. Not where he eats, but where he is eaten. A certain convocation of politic worms are at him e'en now."
Versus... "In heaven. Send one of your messengers forthwith. If he finds him not there, you may seek him out in the other place yourself."
(Both quotes from Hamlet, but all from memory, so I probably messed them up)Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Eh, I'm an atheist, too, but I actually envy the religious folks... Reality is depressing... Having something to look forward to at the end, would probably make it a little more tolerable. "Where is Polonious?" "At dinner. Not where he eats, but where he is eaten. A certain convocation of politic worms are at him e'en now."
Versus... "In heaven. Send one of your messengers forthwith. If he finds him not there, you may seek him out in the other place yourself."
(Both quotes from Hamlet, but all from memory, so I probably messed them up)Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Religion promises everything and delivers nothing; it is a means by which the ignorant masses can be easily controlled. Someone once told me that the reason something bad happened was gods will. I told him to fuck off and never darken my door again. Ignorant twat. Him, not me. Hey, it's my post!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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They could make it fair and NOT try to "not upset" any religion. - No Easter break, or any other religious breaks. - No churches, mosques, or whatever the other religions call their "house of god". Especially not if they make annoying sounds. Only keep the really old ones to preserve history (so that future generations do not repeat our mistakes) but DOWN with the rest. - No opting out of science for any reason. Evolution for everyone. Sex-ed for every one as well, where do you think all these teen pregnancies come from? Geologic history of the earth for everyone. - No public display of religion. - Richard Dawkins' books on the reading list. And I'm in a particularly evil mood today so: - Real secularism (no bloody religiously tainted members of parliament - GTFO) - No private display of religion. Unenforceable, but you can use it to add an extra offense to religious wrongdoers. - Tax benefits for people who convert to atheism. Any suggestions? (DD?)
Make denigration of religion compulsory. Point and laugh at Vicars, Priests, Imams, Rabbis, and anyone else who lives their lives by what some bronze age peasants wrote in a book thousands of years ago. Suggest that those who wish to live by their religions do so in the country where that religion started. (OK we would have to put up with pagans, but a lot of naked women dancing round a bonfire does not bother me too much). But the rest of them can fuck off back into the deserts of the middle east. Teach science and maths to a higher level and with more importance, and make it illegal to pass any law that is based upon religious observance. Get rid of all non-secular holidays. You can keep the Chrismas and New Year holiday dates, but call them the Solstice Break, Easter becomes the Equinox Break etc
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They could make it fair and NOT try to "not upset" any religion. - No Easter break, or any other religious breaks. - No churches, mosques, or whatever the other religions call their "house of god". Especially not if they make annoying sounds. Only keep the really old ones to preserve history (so that future generations do not repeat our mistakes) but DOWN with the rest. - No opting out of science for any reason. Evolution for everyone. Sex-ed for every one as well, where do you think all these teen pregnancies come from? Geologic history of the earth for everyone. - No public display of religion. - Richard Dawkins' books on the reading list. And I'm in a particularly evil mood today so: - Real secularism (no bloody religiously tainted members of parliament - GTFO) - No private display of religion. Unenforceable, but you can use it to add an extra offense to religious wrongdoers. - Tax benefits for people who convert to atheism. Any suggestions? (DD?)
I remember being at school in Londonderry in the 80's my parents took me out of Religous education as it wasn't something that they thought was fair to me blah blah but the school said hey nop problem.. he can do other work while they have RE. my point to that article Harold is why should one person be disadvantaged because of someone else's religon?
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Religion promises everything and delivers nothing; it is a means by which the ignorant masses can be easily controlled. Someone once told me that the reason something bad happened was gods will. I told him to fuck off and never darken my door again. Ignorant twat. Him, not me. Hey, it's my post!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
digital man wrote:
Religion promises everything and delivers nothing; it is a means by which the ignorant masses can be easily controlled.
Yeah, but if you can ignore all forms of logic and common sense, and actually BELIEVE the story, well, that'd probably be a lot more pleasant. You know what they say... Ignorance is bliss.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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I remember being at school in Londonderry in the 80's my parents took me out of Religous education as it wasn't something that they thought was fair to me blah blah but the school said hey nop problem.. he can do other work while they have RE. my point to that article Harold is why should one person be disadvantaged because of someone else's religon?
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digital man wrote:
Religion promises everything and delivers nothing; it is a means by which the ignorant masses can be easily controlled.
Yeah, but if you can ignore all forms of logic and common sense, and actually BELIEVE the story, well, that'd probably be a lot more pleasant. You know what they say... Ignorance is bliss.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Yeah, but if you can ignore all forms of logic and common sense, and actually BELIEVE the story, well, that'd probably be a lot more pleasant.
Amen to that, brother! Must be nice to be able to always pass the buck and never take any responsibility for personal actions. Oh, god told me to do it, etc, etc. Sickening.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Ignorance is bliss.
and intelligence and good looks are a curse.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Eh, I'm an atheist, too, but I actually envy the religious folks... Reality is depressing... Having something to look forward to at the end, would probably make it a little more tolerable. "Where is Polonious?" "At dinner. Not where he eats, but where he is eaten. A certain convocation of politic worms are at him e'en now."
Versus... "In heaven. Send one of your messengers forthwith. If he finds him not there, you may seek him out in the other place yourself."
(Both quotes from Hamlet, but all from memory, so I probably messed them up)Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Reality is AMAZING! You are you because one sperm in a billion found that one egg in a 100,000, and that because one man in 2,000,000,000 found one woman in 2,000,000,000 and managed after several attempts to fertilise her. And they only existed because the same enormous odds. And once you were fertilised, you managed to survive long enough to be born, and against great odds you have survived long enough to get to today without dying from the hundreds of deadly diseases loose in the world, because of 4.3 billion years of evolution that has protected you from most of them, and all this on a planet at the exact distance it needed to be from a star of the right type in a fairly secluded and safe part of the galaxy. And you are here in an era of anasthetic and antiseptic, of computers and spaceship, where we can understand the observable universe and make sense of it. Where we can shape our destiny and outlive every generation of aour ancestors. Where we have become the Gods that the ignorant in the past have prayed to? And you think reality sucks? I have travelled the world, stood on every continent, gazed upon marvels both natural and human, seen great things and terrible things. I have been present at a million man march for peace in Madrid, and fought in a war. I am here, I have bred, I have witnessed life. I know at the end there is nothing but oblivion, but at that point, I think I will have deserved that long rest!
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Oh yes I see your point, I'm just making a slightly stronger one instead :) And religion disadvantages us at every turn. Religions are the rusty iron shackles, left over from an age long past, holding us back.
I try to dodge making clever comments on a monday.. small and simple is the way for me :laugh:
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I try to dodge making clever comments on a monday.. small and simple is the way for me :laugh:
As barmey as a sack of badgers
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Reality is AMAZING! You are you because one sperm in a billion found that one egg in a 100,000, and that because one man in 2,000,000,000 found one woman in 2,000,000,000 and managed after several attempts to fertilise her. And they only existed because the same enormous odds. And once you were fertilised, you managed to survive long enough to be born, and against great odds you have survived long enough to get to today without dying from the hundreds of deadly diseases loose in the world, because of 4.3 billion years of evolution that has protected you from most of them, and all this on a planet at the exact distance it needed to be from a star of the right type in a fairly secluded and safe part of the galaxy. And you are here in an era of anasthetic and antiseptic, of computers and spaceship, where we can understand the observable universe and make sense of it. Where we can shape our destiny and outlive every generation of aour ancestors. Where we have become the Gods that the ignorant in the past have prayed to? And you think reality sucks? I have travelled the world, stood on every continent, gazed upon marvels both natural and human, seen great things and terrible things. I have been present at a million man march for peace in Madrid, and fought in a war. I am here, I have bred, I have witnessed life. I know at the end there is nothing but oblivion, but at that point, I think I will have deserved that long rest!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
I know at the end there is nothing but oblivion, but at that point, I think I will have deserved that long rest!
Nicely put. :thumbsup:
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Reality is AMAZING! You are you because one sperm in a billion found that one egg in a 100,000, and that because one man in 2,000,000,000 found one woman in 2,000,000,000 and managed after several attempts to fertilise her. And they only existed because the same enormous odds. And once you were fertilised, you managed to survive long enough to be born, and against great odds you have survived long enough to get to today without dying from the hundreds of deadly diseases loose in the world, because of 4.3 billion years of evolution that has protected you from most of them, and all this on a planet at the exact distance it needed to be from a star of the right type in a fairly secluded and safe part of the galaxy. And you are here in an era of anasthetic and antiseptic, of computers and spaceship, where we can understand the observable universe and make sense of it. Where we can shape our destiny and outlive every generation of aour ancestors. Where we have become the Gods that the ignorant in the past have prayed to? And you think reality sucks? I have travelled the world, stood on every continent, gazed upon marvels both natural and human, seen great things and terrible things. I have been present at a million man march for peace in Madrid, and fought in a war. I am here, I have bred, I have witnessed life. I know at the end there is nothing but oblivion, but at that point, I think I will have deserved that long rest!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Sure, the odds against existence are pretty ridiculous, though if you test a one-in-a-billion chance a few billion times, it's pretty likely to happen. Sure, it's a convenient time to be alive, but the utter meaninglessness of existence can be somewhat depressing. Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but that's how I think about it. I'm not one of those people who will likely change the world... And even if I did, the universe wouldn't care one bit. Humanity itself is just a blip... Civilization has been around for thousands of years, but that's nothing compared to the Earth itself, to the solar system, the galaxy, the galactic cluster... The planet could be destroyed tomorrow in a massive supernova, and it still wouldn't matter. And even if you confine your perspective to humanity itself... An individual is, in most cases, pretty insignificant. Just one more cog in the great machine... And when you're done, all you have to look forward to is nothingness. You go to sleep one day (If you're lucky), and you never wake up. Kind of depressing.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Sure, the odds against existence are pretty ridiculous, though if you test a one-in-a-billion chance a few billion times, it's pretty likely to happen. Sure, it's a convenient time to be alive, but the utter meaninglessness of existence can be somewhat depressing. Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but that's how I think about it. I'm not one of those people who will likely change the world... And even if I did, the universe wouldn't care one bit. Humanity itself is just a blip... Civilization has been around for thousands of years, but that's nothing compared to the Earth itself, to the solar system, the galaxy, the galactic cluster... The planet could be destroyed tomorrow in a massive supernova, and it still wouldn't matter. And even if you confine your perspective to humanity itself... An individual is, in most cases, pretty insignificant. Just one more cog in the great machine... And when you're done, all you have to look forward to is nothingness. You go to sleep one day (If you're lucky), and you never wake up. Kind of depressing.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)So what next then? Suicide? After all life is pointless, so leave the rest of us some resources.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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So what next then? Suicide? After all life is pointless, so leave the rest of us some resources.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Nah, I've been through that phase... Too stubborn to give up like that.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Sure, the odds against existence are pretty ridiculous, though if you test a one-in-a-billion chance a few billion times, it's pretty likely to happen. Sure, it's a convenient time to be alive, but the utter meaninglessness of existence can be somewhat depressing. Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but that's how I think about it. I'm not one of those people who will likely change the world... And even if I did, the universe wouldn't care one bit. Humanity itself is just a blip... Civilization has been around for thousands of years, but that's nothing compared to the Earth itself, to the solar system, the galaxy, the galactic cluster... The planet could be destroyed tomorrow in a massive supernova, and it still wouldn't matter. And even if you confine your perspective to humanity itself... An individual is, in most cases, pretty insignificant. Just one more cog in the great machine... And when you're done, all you have to look forward to is nothingness. You go to sleep one day (If you're lucky), and you never wake up. Kind of depressing.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
What is this, are you the new harold? Using more fancy words to convey essentially the same message?
I had a message? Man, I thought I was just in a depressed mood and venting a bit.
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I can understand his frustration, as the UK is PC gone mad at the moment trying not to upset the minority religions
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Simon_Whale wrote:
the UK is PC gone mad at the moment trying not to upset the minority religions
Only if you read the tabloids. (The 'blacked out' swimming pool windows that never were, etc.) However, from what I have read (although I cannot find a link to the actual guide) it was not a question of upsetting Muslims, more advice on the possible effects of various school activities on those fasting. (Dehydration being a real bummer. :) ) I wonder if the guide also emphasises the importance of modesty in Islam, and recommends that teachers ensure that boys and girls have appropriate swimwear[^].
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Simon_Whale wrote:
the UK is PC gone mad at the moment trying not to upset the minority religions
Only if you read the tabloids. (The 'blacked out' swimming pool windows that never were, etc.) However, from what I have read (although I cannot find a link to the actual guide) it was not a question of upsetting Muslims, more advice on the possible effects of various school activities on those fasting. (Dehydration being a real bummer. :) ) I wonder if the guide also emphasises the importance of modesty in Islam, and recommends that teachers ensure that boys and girls have appropriate swimwear[^].
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
but why couldn't the council advise the schools to offer alternatives to those affected by the religous periods rather than having it cancelled for everyone?
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